Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation

[Ryllharu]

I thought the Multi Eris was more Eris+1sec, Eris+2sec etc, not alternative Eris actions, but that's possible.

As for seeing the future being useless if it doesn't change, that depends. I am actually rather fond of prophecies that are 100% true but incomplete - because that means you can trust them 100% (they will be true), but now that you know what will happen regardless of choices, you can focus on what you didn't see - and focus on changing that.

For example, if Eris will throw sand regardless, then we know intercepting her throw is useless. She'll throw. But dodging or blocking is an option because that is an open outcome.

It levels the ability out rather than making it extremely overpowered (though it is anyway). I suspect it will balance out to be the way he primarily avoids getting hit or dying, rather than offensive.

Because Eris is getting better and better as a fighter, and we could literally see it. She starts with a single move at 1 second, but based on her reaction to his reaction, at 2 seconds one becomes three, then becomes five. All in the span of a few seconds.

Her reaction speed and instinct is only going to go upward, as indicated by Rujerd's ass whipping of Rudy. She's mopey right now, but Eris has been getting better at a steady rate not much different from Rudy with magic.

[neflight86]

Yay for not wasting time with any recap. Good stuff. Yes, the demon king did seem to drag her scene straight to zany, character art-wise, but it wasn't unwelcome. Why was she destitute in the middle of the city? Even if she was displaced in the cataclysm, it's been over a year, right? Is she that helpless to wind up begging?

Turning a blind eye to evil is an interesting concession, but couldn't they find another way to get a reasonable fare, like threats (you are overcharging a Supard, after all) or another set of disguises? Rudy gave up on other angels a bit too quick, but I guess he was worries about how his tampering got out of hand last season.

Any indication how much time has passed since last episode?

[Ryllharu]

I think it is a year? He mentioned Eris' age, which seems to be the only key we really have for durations.

[Buffalobiian]

It was mentioned that he's been wandering for a year all up.

[KrayZ33]

Ep 12 is out.


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Man, remember those episodes that were never boring from start to finish and all too short? They're back.

The two being disappointed at not being able to swim for entirely different reasons, Eris feigning good sportsmanship to Rudeus only to run off crying were all so in character.

These next 3 months are going to be gooood.

amazing first episode for an amazing show.
Unless something out of the ordinary will happen, this show is going to be my favorite for sure already.

I liked the littel detail that we could see Roxy/Elf/Dwarf in the background on the ship when it entered the harbor.

[MFauli]

Disgusting loli demon was unnecessary. She's not even sexy. Just Literally a prepubescent gir wearing lingerie. :/

[Kraco]

Disgusting loli demon was unnecessary. She's not even sexy. Just Literally a prepubescent gir wearing lingerie. :/

Just forget it. It's practically impossible for an isekai series not to have a loli demon.

[Ryllharu]

It wasn't so much that they had a loli demon, it was the complete tonal shift she brought along.

From a generally grounded and well rooted series to Panty & Stocking type slapstick.

Her section felt like a bonus gaiden manga chapter that's either crossovers, deliberate continuity breaks for fun (e.g. All of the Black Lagoon ones), Momotaro, or Alice in Wonderland themed.

[Kraco]

It wasn't so much that they had a loli demon, it was the complete tonal shift she brought along.

From a generally grounded and well rooted series to Panty & Stocking type slapstick.

Her section felt like a bonus gaiden manga chapter that's either crossovers, deliberate continuity breaks for fun (e.g. All of the Black Lagoon ones), Momotaro, or Alice in Wonderland themed.

I disagree. How does this loli demon tonal shift/continuity breaks from the totally weird (and suspicious) human god, for example? I'd say the problem is that we didn't see that much of the demon continent. We saw Roxy's home village, that one city, and now they are already in a harbour town ready to leave the continent, provided they can secure a ship voyage. The demon continent might have been full of all kinds of strange, esoteric folks, seeing how it has to be the most heterogeneous of all the continents. The demon loli could have been nothing out of ordinary by local standards.

[Ryllharu]

The scene where she grabs out his eye to replace it with the future sight eye feels distressingly similar to Kill la Kill's deliberate indifference towards blood fountains that don't somehow don't actually drain their victims of all their blood. i.e. Done for laughs at how absurd it is. In a franchise that generally doesn't go that route, the observational absurdity is typically centered around the overt horniness and fetishes, not comical violence.

The counter example where, while strange as shit, it still fits, is the Boreas Greyrat tradition of being obsessed with Kemonomimi races...and causally plowing them throughout the estate but also respecting them?

The creepy human god is a non-descript, faceless annoyance that torment Rudy with cryptic warnings and self-admitted poor advice (or is it?!) for his own amusement and driving some plan that we're not fully aware of. As the machinations of petty gods ought to be.

[MFauli]

... I just don't understand why the artist thought it was necessary to depict her as a prepubescent body wearing lingerie. No censorship call, I just don't like it :/

[Kraco]

... I just don't understand why the artist thought it was necessary to depict her as a prepubescent body wearing lingerie. No censorship call, I just don't like it :/

Because she's a female demon. A female demon is almost the synonym for a succubus. Succubi dress like that. It doesn't really matter if you like it or not because the Japanese love their loli characters.

[Ryllharu]

Because she's a female demon. A female demon is almost the synonym for a succubus. Succubi dress like that. It doesn't really matter if you like it or not because the Japanese love their loli characters.

Well, I mean there's also some strong implications to her dialogue. "This incarnation...", "300 years since my resurrection..."

She's not only much older than she looks, she's been in other forms before.

The demon continent is so sparse, she just makes "good enough" clothes. The chains and shackles are reminiscent at least in my head of Morgiana from Magi, and she wears what can best be described as formal rags, upgraded from her previous actual rags.

[Kraco]

Episode 13


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Poor sacred beast. It clearly enjoys playing with people and having its fur fluffed, but the stupid beast people apparently refuse to touch it. No wonder those beast people are also quick to jump to lousy conclusions. Kind of funny they automatically think someone their sacred beast clearly likes to be a criminal scumbag.

Undoubtedly the most lewd episode so far. As lowly as threatening someone suffering from an involuntary condition is, maybe that threat makes Eris woman up and deal with her sea sickness better through sheer guts.

[KrayZ33]

The creepy human god is a non-descript, faceless annoyance that torment Rudy with cryptic warnings and self-admitted poor advice (or is it?!) for his own amusement and driving some plan that we're not fully aware of. As the machinations of petty gods ought to be.

That reminds me, since it's been a while, was it just Goblin Slayer or this show as well that made the gods (of all races) seem like they are scheming and doing something in the background.
The human god was a "not to be trusted" figure, I'm pretty sure... but I forgot why. I remember something very important happened in the first season when he appeared... and it was only hinted at.

He was the "human god" was he not? Or does this universe not have a god for every race?
Conflicting memories show up between Goblin Slayer, Mushoku and Divinity Original Sin 2 in my head.

Maybe I'll rewatch it... the BDs came out a few months ago after all.

[Ryllharu]

Huh. Elinalise really is a proud and happy slut. Good for her, though even as open as she is about her...uh...needs, she still calls Paul scum...

Roxy's view of love is almost too pure and innocent. Considering she's the oldest, BY FAR, of Rudy's potential romance partners, and we already know she's sexually active and interested in the idea, it was honestly a little surprising that her fantasy was as cliché as you can get for an adventurer. She basically wants a sheepish though courageous younger man to save her faux-damsel style. That also puts Rudy squarely in her strike zone. The general discomfort with this series' implications continues...

It was amusing that the missed connection is Roxy's own fault twice over.

I guess Eris really is falling for Rudy.

That reminds me, since it's been a while, was it just Goblin Slayer or this show as well that made the gods (of all races) seem like they are scheming and doing something in the background.

Conflicting memories show up between Goblin Slayer, Mushoku and Divinity Original Sin 2 in my head.

Goblin Slayer is implied to be a D&D/Sword World RPG game (that's what Lodoss War is based on), crossed with The Punisher.

DOS2 is full of very petty gods. There's some very specific stuff from that game that I absolutely won't spoil here, but it seems to be the closest to this.

[DarthEnderX]

It was amusing that the missed connection is Roxy's own fault twice over.

I was not amused. Near misses between people looking for one another has always been one of the most frustrating tropes to me.

[Kraco]

I was not amused. Near misses between people looking for one another has always been one of the most frustrating tropes to me.

Yeah, it's somewhat frustrating, although it's also realistic. It's easy to miss another person in a city. Unlike the audience, the characters themselves aren't aware of it, so for them missing the other by five meters is no different from missing them by a hundred kilometers. Personally I dislike the kind of opposite scene more: A coincidence where a person spots another one randomly, in a place not frequently visited far from home, at the exact worst possible moment. That trope is often used to create cheap drama for romance stories in the way of misunderstandings.

[Ryllharu]

I was not amused. Near misses between people looking for one another has always been one of the most frustrating tropes to me.

It's a little different here, I think. It's not two people trying to find each other and inexplicably missing each other through plot contrivances, which is infuriating. That's the example of them passing each other in the alley or at the docks on the two boats. I'm with you there. But they were in the same city for days and days.

This is Roxy, specifically, failing. Them missing each other is entirely her own fault.

She's a former adventurer in this very city. She has connections. People know her. She deliberately steered them all away from Dead End (Rudy's party) out of irrational fear. The dwarf guy is asking around. Elinalisa is whoring it up to get personal pleasure while also asking for information in other back alleys. They're both doing the legwork.

Roxy steered them away from a well-traveled, well informed mercenary party for stupid personal reasons. She even saw them later, and ran away at full speed.

There's not that many humans on the demon continent regularly, or within the interior. Seeing Eris alone should have been an opportunity to ask Eris is she ever met a boy that met Rudy's description, or Zenith's, or Lilia's.

I assume that now Roxy is going to travel all the way to her hometown, still looking for them, only to learn that they were headed the way she just came from over a year ago, with Rujerd.

[Kraco]

This is Roxy, specifically, failing. Them missing each other is entirely her own fault.

You are expecting too much from her. She's mortally afraid of the Superd, so she's not going to go chat with Eris, whom she suspects to be associated with a Superd. Furthermore, she noticed Eris is really powerful, so Roxy likely wouldn't even imagine Eris being some brat from the human continent who has only been for a year among the demons. For all we know, they might have also been asking the wrong questions. If they are asking for rumours about human victims of a teleportation incident, it might not make people think about a tough mercenary gang that has lately been making a name for themselves.