Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation

[Kraco]

"To make that happen, I'd wipe this whole city off the map".. (staff glows, clouds darken and spin around).

He was about to AoE the city.

There's no point trying a spell like that unless you know you can do it.

Flash flooding a city without killing everyone there just creates enemies. Rudy is after eliminating enemies, and he showed no suggestion that he was just after horse dude.

I fully disagree. I'd say his intention was to make the people forget all about the Superd when someone else turned their city in a giant, dirty pool of water. Of course a bunch of people would most likely die due to flooding, but getting hammered by rain, no matter how heavy, will not automatically kill anyone. Even a Japanese person will just get a fever lasting for one or two days.

Edit: Somehow I got the timing of the events mixed in my head. Ruijerd hadn't even revealed himself yet.

[DarthEnderX]

"To make that happen, I'd wipe this whole city off the map".. (staff glows, clouds darken and spin around).

He was about to AoE the city.

I just assumed he was going to lightning strike horsedude.

Like, realistically, any attack that "wiped the city off the map" would also kill Eris. She's in the middle of the fucking city.

[KrayZ33]

I just assumed he was going to lightning strike horsedude.

Like, realistically, any attack that "wiped the city off the map" would also kill Eris. She's in the middle of the fucking city.

I agree. I thought it was more of a figure of speech and he was about to stealth kill that horse with a nature spell that can't be tracked down to him as easily.

I kinda wonder why he is always "hiding" his weapon. Is it to protect it from thieves because it looks so valuable?

[shinta|hikari]

I kinda wonder why he is always "hiding" his weapon. Is it to protect it from thieves because it looks so valuable?

I would think so. Works the same IRL. If I had an expensive item and had to go through a rough neighborhood, I would hide it from view as much as possible.

[Buffalobiian]

I just assumed he was going to lightning strike horsedude.

Like, realistically, any attack that "wiped the city off the map" would also kill Eris. She's in the middle of the fucking city.

Rudy's there too. I assumed that somehow the spell doesn't kill the dude standing in the middle of it.

Rewatching the scene he does look directly at horse dude right at the end but, so yeah.. probably just wanted to kill him.

[Munsu]

I would think so. Works the same IRL. If I had an expensive item and had to go through a rough neighborhood, I would hide it from view as much as possible.

Part of their scheme is coming off as a low-rank, non-powerful, non-threatening adventurers party, so hiding the powerful staff surely plays into that as well.

All that said, he has been hiding it since he arrived to the demon continent, before they even thought of forming an official guild party, so other reasons are at play as well you mention it, maybe it's also something the helps maintain it? Though I doubt that since Roxy herself is openly carrying her staff.

[DarthEnderX]

A huge advantage of his is that people will underestimate him because he's a kid. He doesn't want to lose that element of surprise by waving around some archmage staff.

[Ryllharu]

It has an absurdly large crystal ball on it.

He probably covers it to keep from setting stuff on fire from the sun.

Fun Fact: It happens more than you think, and one just happened a week or two ago.

[shinta|hikari]

Fuck crystal balls.

[Kraco]

Fuck crystal balls.

I've read a manga with a wingman crystal ball. It was great.

[Kraco]

Looks like the second season got pushed from July to October, due to undisclosed production issues. A pity.

[KrayZ33]

I wish they'd have done that from the beginning... now I fear that it's pushed back AND I'll get a shitty production.

[Buffalobiian]

Ep 12 is out.


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Man, remember those episodes that were never boring from start to finish and all too short? They're back.

The two being disappointed at not being able to swim for entirely different reasons, Eris feigning good sportsmanship to Rudeus only to run off crying were all so in character.

These next 3 months are going to be gooood.

[Kraco]

Yeah, it's great how strong the character personalities are. I had already forgotten exactly how great.

This was kind of a sad episode because Rudeus and Roxy passed each other, with neither noticing the other.

[Ryllharu]

I see (or rather hear) why they cast Rie Tanaka as the elf...

Roxy's going back to their group's inn, right after Rudy passes through and overhears the elf getting laid. Guess Paul's entire adventuring party was full of horndogs and unsatiated women. Maybe it's a miracle that Zenith got him to settle down with her at all.

No comments on Eris being able to do a standing jump that's 10 feet in the air?

edit:
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Iguchi Yuka voiced demon girl reappears and the series suddenly becomes a Trigger anime?

[DarthEnderX]

Well, now I know where Milim is pretty much completely ripped off from.

[Buffalobiian]

No comments on Eris being able to do a standing jump that's 10 feet in the air?

It was funny.

Overall everyone did seem to be slightly taller - but mainly Eris.

So the thing with Foresight then is that it predicts the most likely path, but it's not the guaranteed future, since he clearly saw Cleaner's head get smashed by the pot but he blasted him away before it could happen - which meant Foresight saw something that didn't occur.

[DarthEnderX]

So the thing with Foresight then is that it predicts the most likely path, but it's not the guaranteed future, since he clearly saw Cleaner's head get smashed by the pot but he blasted him away before it could happen - which meant Foresight saw something that didn't occur.

Well seeing the future would be pretty fucking useless if you couldn't take action to change it. I assume it shows what's going to happen if you don't do anything.

But yeah, multiple outcomes are clearly possible since he saw more than one Eris image when fighting her. We might know more if they hadn't skipped over his ass beating by Ruj.

[Buffalobiian]

Well seeing the future would be pretty fucking useless if you couldn't take action to change it. I assume it shows what's going to happen if you don't do anything.

But yeah, multiple outcomes are clearly possible since he saw more than one Eris image when fighting her. We might know more if they hadn't skipped over his ass beating by Ruj.

I thought the Multi Eris was more Eris+1sec, Eris+2sec etc, not alternative Eris actions, but that's possible.

As for seeing the future being useless if it doesn't change, that depends. I am actually rather fond of prophecies that are 100% true but incomplete - because that means you can trust them 100% (they will be true), but now that you know what will happen regardless of choices, you can focus on what you didn't see - and focus on changing that.

For example, if Eris will throw sand regardless, then we know intercepting her throw is useless. She'll throw. But dodging or blocking is an option because that is an open outcome.

The opposite is true here where for example Rudy might know someone will attack him - now it's just up to him to see if he can change the outcome. Interestingly, Foresight also applied to himself when he was waving his hands in front of his own face.

One thing they planted this episode was having Roxy around the sparring session. She really had no reason to be there unless she recognised that humans were rare (and thus could be Rudy), or heard rumours of their description and came to sus out a young male magician with a staff.

[Kraco]

I thought the Multi Eris was more Eris+1sec, Eris+2sec etc, not alternative Eris actions, but that's possible.

As for seeing the future being useless if it doesn't change, that depends. I am actually rather fond of prophecies that are 100% true but incomplete - because that means you can trust them 100% (they will be true), but now that you know what will happen regardless of choices, you can focus on what you didn't see - and focus on changing that.
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Those incomplete prophecies don't work in minute details, only in large, more vague ones. They are typically the kind where you also don't know if the future you predict (or heard predicted) is a result of you doing nothing or a result of you doing something. However, it's logically impossible for that to work in a scenario like in this episode. If we consider a hand-to-hand duel, 2 seconds is an extremely long time. Even 1 second is a significant amount of time. In other words, if Rudeus sees Eris's movement from a second in the future, he can preemptively react to it, but that still leaves enough time for Eris to react to Rudeus's change of movements and change her own attack, which nullifies what Rudeus originally saw. However, there's a certain time limit where Rudeus has enough time to react but Eris doesn't anymore. That's the limit where Rudeus would need to adjust his future vision to beat Eris consistently.

With Ruijerd, however, it doesn't work for Rudeus for the time being. Ruijerd would, probably, react too fast to leave Rudeus any time to adjust his own defense/attacks anymore, plus Ruijerd probably has attacks so deadly that even if Rudeus can foresee them, there's nothing he can do about it in time.