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    Season 2 Episode 1:

    Quality episode, although we're off to another slow start. Is this really only 12 episodes or another 2 cour?

    Fully expected the new party to insantly die. A bit disappointed that Rudy didn't show off his amazing close-rang fighting abilities thanks to his demon eye

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Split-cour. The other half is in Spring 2024.

    I thought this was a really well-done episode as well. It did a good job of portraying Rudy's small-minded state of depression and how the other group was able to give him a swift kick in the arse to get out of it.

    There were a lot of great visual elements to show his state of funk/regression and recovery.

    I am surprised he didn't burn the panties too.

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    He didn't burn the panties because:
    -his love for his loli sensei is pure in his twisted ways
    -panties are a treasure for an otaku hikkikomori. Even more if they are from a virgin loli.
    -his love for his sensei is not over and he still gets positive emotions from it.

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    This was an important episode (arc?) because it's about regression for Rudeus. He spent his previous life in deep depression, so it's easier to fall into it again in this second life. Of course burning Eris's hair, the memento of a lost love, was important because it's about not letting the past drag him down. Not letting his past life prevent him for enjoying this second chance was his most important decision back when he had just been reborn, so this was like a verification of it. Eris left him, but he still has other things to live for. It's pretty funny Roxy's stolen panties are an extremely important item for his mental health, but why not; he's a Greyrat, after all, and thus genetically a pervert.

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    This new party is fated to be dogchow.

    I'm glad this depression only lasted an episode. I was already annoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    This new party is fated to be dogchow.

    I'm glad this depression only lasted an episode. I was already annoyed.
    I was getting pissed off too, mainly because the motivations didn't make a whole lot of sense.

    Eris said she'd come back when she's more "worthy" of him.

    He knows he still has his teacher and his family. He was finding his mother. There's still plenty of motivation there to the point where thinking he'd just fall back into a rut seems... strange.

    The burnt hand scene seemed strange. Not in regards to the handshake, but more the fact that it was burnt. I've never seen a fireball hurt someone's own hand before, and if you burnt your hand from skinning animals they're too hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Eris said she'd come back when she's more "worthy" of him.
    Is that what the anime version said? The manga translation I read said:

    "Right now, we're not a good match for each other.

    I'm leaving on a journey, Eris."


    I guess for a more positive person, it might sound like she's coming back, but deep down Rudeus is not an optimistic person. He only read it as "We aren't a good match. Farewell." It's not unreasonable either. They went through the dangerous, long journey back, but then she just disappeared leaving behind nothing but a letter that didn't really say anything. Anyone would take it as a negative sign.

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    It also kinda makes it seem like she one-night-standed him. So I could see him being like "Shit, I must suck in bed..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Eris said she'd come back when she's more "worthy" of him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Is that what the anime version said? The manga translation I read said:

    "Right now, we're not a good match for each other.

    I'm leaving on a journey, Eris."
    The former is what Eris undoubtedly meant, but she is notoriously shitty at communication. In general, she's a dumbass who is good at fighting.

    Episode 22, she wrote what Kraco posted.

    Halfway into Eps 23, she shouted from the mountaintop that she loved him and stated that her goal was to better herself and protect him.

    So you are both correct.

    She looks like to a Japanese person that she cut her hair and broke up with him because they weren't meant to be together. Who knows what cutting one's hair means in Pervo-World.

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    In this context it doesn't really matter what she meant. How Rudeus interpreted it is all that matters. After all, she hit the road before he woke up, so he couldn't ask any questions to understand what's going on.

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    Season 2 Episode 2:

    It was another nice, enjoyable episode, but without any twist at the end of the episode, pacing feels very slow now and I'm reminded of last seasons' Vinland Saga S2. Just nothing happened that's important. And I'm mad that Rudeus spent MONTHS there just waiting to be contacted, like, bitch, GO SEARCH FOR YOUR MOM!

    The repeated focus on Roxy's panties really feels out of place at this point in time. He should just fuck Sara to get it out of his system, girl wants his d.

    Anyway, only two ways I see this end:
    - either "Counter Arrow" is killed next week, giving impetus to Rudeus moving forward (maybe Sara survives?)
    - or the get into a big fight with some uber-boss monsters and Rudeus finally reveals to the group just how far above his power level is compared to theirs and that causes him to move on, basically being like "we're on very different points in our journey, I must now proceed my own journey, bye".

    Finally, I'd have preferred a slightly longer timeskip so Rudeus at least looked like a young man. He's still looking like a little boy, only with sixpack now lol

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    There's only so much he can do, in the vast world, to search for a single person, who's quite capable of taking care of herself normally. If Zenith could do it, she would have definitely contacted people, through the guild or otherwise. Since she hasn't, she ought to be quite solidly limited in her actions and out of sight. Rudeus doesn't have any particular contacts of his own, either, being just a teenager. So, he's trying to become somebody. However, he had regressed quite deep in his previous life depression, so I reckon he doesn't have the mental energy to try anything overly innovative. It's not a bad depiction of depression, even if what the rude dude said is true: It's quite annoying how Rudeus is behaving as if he was the most unfortunate person in the world. Eris is much more unfortunate, yet Rudeus is only feeling sorry for himself. But that's what depression can do to a human.

    The main manga is adapting the novels in a different manner compared to the anime, so I don't actually know how long this depression arc is supposed to be. I hope not too long. I don't mind this, but, like I said earlier, it's not so fun to watch depression after all the adventure of the first season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    There's only so much he can do, in the vast world, to search for a single person, who's quite capable of taking care of herself normally. If Zenith could do it, she would have definitely contacted people, through the guild or otherwise. Since she hasn't, she ought to be quite solidly limited in her actions and out of sight.
    Even so, you would think you would increase your odds of finding someone by...not checking just one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Even so, you would think you would increase your odds of finding someone by...not checking just one place.
    He's not currently checking places, per se. He's making himself relatively famous and letting people know he's looking for her. That way, when those people, adventurers or even merchants dealing with adventurers, wander around, they will pay attention to any news/rumours and will send information back. It's like, in our world, if your dog goes missing, you don't only randomly wander the streets looking for it, but you post social media messages about it (if you use social media), to have many more pairs of eyes potentially look for it.

    Rudeus himself was teleported to another continent. Where would he even begin to search if he only intended to do it personally? He made the choice to head north since Paul is down south and others actually travelled to the demon continent (with Rudeus barely missing them). But even so, if you lived in the middle of the USA and someone was sent to a random location in Alaska or Canada, and you heard no news of them contacting anyone, it would be quite a huge area to look for the person only relying on yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    He's not currently checking places, per se. He's making himself relatively famous and letting people know he's looking for her. That way, when those people, adventurers or even merchants dealing with adventurers, wander around, they will pay attention to any news/rumours and will send information back. It's like, in our world, if your dog goes missing, you don't only randomly wander the streets looking for it, but you post social media messages about it (if you use social media), to have many more pairs of eyes potentially look for it.

    Rudeus himself was teleported to another continent. Where would he even begin to search if he only intended to do it personally? He made the choice to head north since Paul is down south and others actually travelled to the demon continent (with Rudeus barely missing them). But even so, if you lived in the middle of the USA and someone was sent to a random location in Alaska or Canada, and you heard no news of them contacting anyone, it would be quite a huge area to look for the person only relying on yourself.
    Kraco.

    You're searching your lost mom.

    You know she's somewhere in Italy.

    You travel to Lago Magiore.

    You stop there.

    You become someone that people at the lakeside you're staying it appreciate for your ever-helpfulness, be it repairing stuff, fishing fish or just being a cheerful guy.

    WILL THIS HELP YOU FIND YOUR MOM?!


    :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Kraco.

    You're searching your lost mom.

    You know she's somewhere in Italy.

    You travel to Lago Magiore.

    You stop there.

    You become someone that people at the lakeside you're staying it appreciate for your ever-helpfulness, be it repairing stuff, fishing fish or just being a cheerful guy.

    WILL THIS HELP YOU FIND YOUR MOM?!


    :|
    He should be planning to switch towns eventually, to make himself known here and there. What else is he supposed to do? There's only so much he can cover by walking around and checking places personally. He could walk past his mom from a 2 meters distance and not notice her if there was a wall between them. Happened to him and Roxy, in the port town, because neither looked the right way. If he was rich, he could actually post guild quests with a reward, to have adventurers actively look for Zenith, perhaps on the side of their usual quests. But he's not wealthy to that extend. However, if Rudeus becomes a decently famous adventurer (in a good sense, not infamous), any random person who happened to find Zenith might imagine getting a reward from him. Just like if some famous person in your town lost a precious item and you found it, you might imagine that surely the person will give you a couple of hundreds of euros, at least, if you take the item to them. I can't use a person in this comparison because our societies have the police search for missing people.

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    I have mixed feelings about this episode and am actually surprised you guys enjoy it so much.

    I could accept him moping around for episode 1. The resolution felt a bit too quick at the end there, but it resolved nonetheless. This episode showed him initially in an improved state, but then he went back to being all depressed and shit. That felt off, and it seemed like Episode 1 was wasted. We could have started Season 2 with this exact episode and preface it with "It's been a few months since Eris left me, and I've started making a name for myself in this town. In particular I partner with this other team a lot".

    The body building and panties shrine was funny, and the fanservice was on point.

    I thoroughly enjoyed that Rudeous was capable of deleting a blizzard and murdering snow bisons. It looked like he struggled against the frost lizards at the beginning (which was strange) but I guess he was just sad when he thought he got left behind and he went into his shithole state of mind again.

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    Also, his nickname sucks. Quagmire is a lame name even without the Family Guy reference.

    Like, they all watched him incinerate that army of bears. But instead his nickname is based on the spell he used to hold them in place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    But even so, if you lived in the middle of the USA and someone was sent to a random location in Alaska or Canada, and you heard no news of them contacting anyone, it would be quite a huge area to look for the person only relying on yourself.
    Even if running into her is basically like winning the lottery, you still have a greater chance of winning the lottery with 10 tickets than you do with 1.

    Just move from city to city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    He should be planning to switch towns eventually, to make himself known here and there. What else is he supposed to do? There's only so much he can cover by walking around and checking places personally. He could walk past his mom from a 2 meters distance and not notice her if there was a wall between them. Happened to him and Roxy, in the port town, because neither looked the right way. If he was rich, he could actually post guild quests with a reward, to have adventurers actively look for Zenith, perhaps on the side of their usual quests. But he's not wealthy to that extend. However, if Rudeus becomes a decently famous adventurer (in a good sense, not infamous), any random person who happened to find Zenith might imagine getting a reward from him. Just like if some famous person in your town lost a precious item and you found it, you might imagine that surely the person will give you a couple of hundreds of euros, at least, if you take the item to them. I can't use a person in this comparison because our societies have the police search for missing people.
    Here's what I'd do if I were Rudeus:


    - Go from town to town
    - Cast gigantic, spectacular spell into the air at the center of each town
    - Announce to the people surrounding you "I am Rudeus Geyrat, I'm looking for my mom, have you heard of her? If you do, pls inform the guild, I will make sure to reward you plenty"
    - rinse and repeat

    Rudeus is a mage with world-tier spells, only second to the gods who are responsible for the teleport spell. He has that kind of power where he can make himself known quickly and effectively.

    And really, even if he wanted to do it in a less conspicuous way, 1 month ought to be enough for one town. Not spending half a year. That's, like, giving up on the one you claim to search.

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    Rudeus isn't that strong. There are plenty more fearsome people around. That said, using Saint level magic and doing as you said would work better than this slog he is doing, but he was never smart nor creative, and now he is even depressed, so I chalk this up to him being dumb and lazy.
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