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    Mushoku Tensei existed before most of the "current" wave of Isekai stories and consequently tropes. There were a lot of isekais before it, but those belong to an older generation and had a relatively different set of tropes (i.e. Fushigi Yuugi, El Hazard, 12 Kingdoms, etc.)

    The story also has a full conclusion, so it won't suffer too much from random asspulls since the author has had the chance to fix the story from the WN to LN transition. I've only read the first few chapters but hear about this a lot in the LN community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Mushoku Tensei existed before most of the "current" wave of Isekai stories and consequently tropes. There were a lot of isekais before it, but those belong to an older generation and had a relatively different set of tropes (i.e. Fushigi Yuugi, El Hazard, 12 Kingdoms, etc.)

    The story also has a full conclusion, so it won't suffer too much from random asspulls since the author has had the chance to fix the story from the WN to LN transition. I've only read the first few chapters but hear about this a lot in the LN community.
    Yeah, this.

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    Neat! Looking forward to it then.

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    Grand production and I enjoyed the humor more than I remembered from the manga adaptation. It's not terribly unique, but the attention to detail and execution put it a cut above your average isekai, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Grand production and I enjoyed the humor more than I remembered from the manga adaptation. It's not terribly unique, but the attention to detail and execution put it a cut above your average isekai, for sure.
    As I was reading the LN, since I'm not a fan of any fanservice, I found it annoying, but seeing animated it actually made me laugh which is a challenge (I'm usually not a fan of the type of comedy found in anime).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    As I was reading the LN, since I'm not a fan of any fanservice, I found it annoying, but seeing animated it actually made me laugh which is a challenge (I'm usually not a fan of the type of comedy found in anime).
    LOL, stop making it sound like I care about ecchi scenes I just get upset by the "gay hero" trope, so it's always nice to see some male hero react more realistic.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I just get upset by the "gay hero" trope
    The trope is "Celibate Hero".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    The trope is "Celibate Hero".
    But that'd imply that the hero is tempted but refuses to act upon his urges. Whereas the heroes in most of these anime simply show now sign of temptation. At most some light blushing. It's frustrating ;/ Goddamn you, Ichika ...

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    I just hope this gets 5 season with the same amount of quality and we see him grow up.
    It's just fun looking at images and character movement that are actually animated well and beautifully

    This show should be MFauli's dream, considering that they actually show sex between adults happening.
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    Her outfit sucks in Boruto.

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    But she's hottest there.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Episode 02

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    Hahaha, fuck me dead. Those sex jokes being thrown in without being the absolute focus of the show is great. Keep going with that.

    It's weird heaving Kyon's voice with that bullied past. His old face didn't fit the voice at all.

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    I didn't remember the MC's past was so gruesome. He had given up on life for all intents and purposes, save for ending himself, which does explain some of his behavior, like the degree of shamelessness. A layer of humanity was already removed from him. He's healing pretty well, though, no doubt largely thanks to Roxy. He really loved her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Hahaha, fuck me dead. Those sex jokes being thrown in without being the absolute focus of the show is great. Keep going with that.
    Somehow they make this feel more genuine.

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    The setting and worldbuilding in terms of backstory, depth, and society gives me major Scrapped Princess vibes crossed with Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. Scrapped Princess' vibrant detail with Maoyuu Maou Yuusha's "realism" of a fantasy setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Somehow they make this feel more genuine.
    Exactly!
    This is the effect I always tell those people who want to censor jrpgs about. Yes, too much sexual stuff is dumb, but none is bad, too. A world where sex just happens on the side is just the most realistic, believeable one.

    As for the episode, I had wished that he told Roxy something like 'once I'm 15, I'm gonna search for you and make you my bride!'.

    Also, I was hoping we'd get such timeskip sooner, but it looks like he'll stay a kid for longer, oh well.

    Edit: Out of curiosity I took a look at a certain forum and of course: Social justice assholes are condemning the anime and hate it. Guess empathizing with an ugly dude was too much to expect from 'progressive' people. Sigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Edit: Out of curiosity I took a look at a certain forum and of course: Social justice assholes are condemning the anime and hate it. Guess empathizing with an ugly dude was too much to expect from 'progressive' people. Sigh.
    He had a 20-year pure hikkimori phase after quitting high school. Self-admittedly never leaving the room for anything. "Pounded on the wall for food."

    It's also not really easy to sympathize with him over what he was doing during the funeral.

    I think he made up for it by trying to save the teens from Truck-kun and getting hit himself. Due to the flashbacks, that no doubt took superhuman courage.

    If he had continued to creep on Roxy rather than backing away and shutting the door, I think it would be somewhat difficult for me to get past it and not look at him poorly for quite a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    He had a 20-year pure hikkimori phase after quitting high school. Self-admittedly never leaving the room for anything. "Pounded on the wall for food."

    It's also not really easy to sympathize with him over what he was doing during the funeral.

    I think he made up for it by trying to save the teens from Truck-kun and getting hit himself. Due to the flashbacks, that no doubt took superhuman courage.

    If he had continued to creep on Roxy rather than backing away and shutting the door, I think it would be somewhat difficult for me to get past it and not look at him poorly for quite a while.
    1.) Again, what did he so bad? Not appear at the funeral? He's deathly scared of going outside. Fapping to some hentai anime? So? "It's hard to sympathize with him", counter question: What makes it so easy to hate him? That he's ugly and has a messy room? Seriously?

    2.) A guy being attracted by a hot young (bot not too young) girl would have made you think lesser of him?! wtf. This is Waki-Ryllharu, right? Even if you took that as a negative, it's balance by Roxy being a pervert herself, masturbating in front of the employers' bedroom.

    People hating this guy just show how un-progressive they really are. For them, empathy is for attractive, cute people, not for ugly guys who get abused by society without anyone caring. And yes, I'm projecting myself here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    1.) Again, what did he so bad? Not appear at the funeral? He's deathly scared of going outside. Fapping to some hentai anime? So? "It's hard to sympathize with him", counter question: What makes it so easy to hate him? That he's ugly and has a messy room? Seriously?
    From the context, it seemed like he literally skipped his parent's funeral so he could stay home and jerk off.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Even if you took that as a negative, it's balance by Roxy being a pervert herself, masturbating in front of the employers' bedroom.
    I will give you that one. If he's a creep for spying on her, she's also a creep for spying on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Why does that make him a bad person? You realize that not all pareny-child relationships are good ones? That a lot of children rightfully hate their parents?
    Which is fine if the parents are shitty. But they already showed us that they weren't(telling him to "Do his best!" and getting nothing but an angry wall pounding in response). Which means if their relationship is shitty, it's because he's shitty.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    And yes, I'm projecting myself here.
    Whuuuuuaaaat?! I never would have guessed!

    I look like that guy too. But I don't take that as an excuse to act like a dirtbag.

    "Well, I look like a scumbag. So I should just be able to act like a scumbag and people shouldn't judge me for it!"
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    Well that got pervy all of a sudden!

    But yeah it was nice to see that he looked like an actual NEET in his old life. Instead of just a harem protagonist in a track suit.

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    Part of the theme of the series you'll see is the struggle between sympathizing with a character that may be doing his best now, not always achieving it, while finding that he's in many ways very flawed and sick individual. Many of those aspects have been toned down so far, and in fact the dark humor is working much better animated than in other mediums.

    Even as the story from WN to LN, etc. has transformed the character a bit... he really was (and maybe is) a shit person. At the same time, he's a person cable of good, so how do you reconcile those aspects will be part of the struggle and interest. His past self vs current self, and how much of his past self which he may want to leave behind creeps back in despite how much he wants to improve himself... career wise and decency wise (to a point).

    It's always been a controversial series in part because our MC is not a goody two-shoes, so looking forward how the rest will be handled. So far, so good. And the dude on Animesuki is just focusing on some stupid scene about Roxy about how "it's not normal" that she masturbated there... 2-3 pages of discussing a thing that's not worth discussing. I mean, who the fuck cares if it's a normal thing, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. Whatever, not going to waste giving it more thought than needed. Let the chick act on her sexual frustrations.

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