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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    not sure if i like that administrator revelation. so they might literally be inside a video game? Now I kinda expect some dumb overarching plot.

    also, it jeopardizes all the grinding and skill unlocking when there's some person that just randomly listens to players' requests and gives them what they want ... or might take away stuff unfairly. Hope it's being used carefully.
    Completely agree on both counts. Both of these things undermine huge parts of what I like about this show.
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    I guess the professor/elf caping her students stats/skills might be a way to keep their profiles low so that they are not targets for those admins/players. Maybe explains some of the 4 reincarnated deaths ?
    There's also the higher lever spider pruning we've seen last ep.
    Some higher level users probably have very long range sensing and can kill anything going past some level to stop any threat at a very safe level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I guess the professor/elf caping her students stats/skills might be a way to keep their profiles low so that they are not targets for those admins/players. Maybe explains some of the 4 reincarnated deaths ?
    Though, in a world for of dangerous monsters. It stands to reason that, statistically, some of them would just die growing up in it.

    Kumoko herself is incredibly lucky to have survived when she was just starting out. If everyone else didn't come back as some noble or elder dragon, they you can imagine them just, like, growing up on a farm and getting sick and dying.

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    but how does the teacher even know about all the students? apparently she knows about kumoko, too? and then wont tell the others about her, for "reasons" :/

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    It's interesting the humans are already so high level, with so many skills. I guess merely growing up and training, going to school, and such gave them all that. They couldn't have done much else since this trip as well was only supposed to have weak monsters present. Kumoko has had to defeat real, relatively strong monsters to get where she is now, yet she's not necessarily stronger than the students based on stats alone. She might have weirder skills and a whole lot more battle experience, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    but how does the teacher even know about all the students? apparently she knows about kumoko, too? and then wont tell the others about her, for "reasons" :/
    Or she knows about everyone on the humanoid side, plus the dragon that's pretty obvious hanging around them. So, by the process of elimination she would know the rest have to belong to the monster side. This would mean she merely knows some of them were reborn as monsters but not exactly what they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    also, it jeopardizes all the grinding and skill unlocking when there's some person that just randomly listens to players' requests and gives them what they want ... or might take away stuff unfairly. Hope it's being used carefully.
    Not necessarily. Kumoko still has to grind. If there had been an evolving skill after Appraisal 10, she would have got it. But she still needed Appraisal 10. Unless there are other conditions, I'd suppose anyone with Appraisal 10 & Detection 10 will also get the new next level skill. And some juicy Taboo to go along with it. However, it's also possible few would fulfill the additional conditions, such as Taboo already at a certain level.

    At the end of the day the new world is what it is, and we are only learning it bit by bit. It was very game-like from the beginning, though, so nothing happening here is a huge surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    but how does the teacher even know about all the students? apparently she knows about kumoko, too? and then wont tell the others about her, for "reasons" :/
    I would actually think more that the "Adminstrator" like whoever this 'D' is, cursed her, Cassandra style. She may know exactly where they all are, has been granted some degree of power to rebaseline them, but if she actually says anything other than, "It's a secret-desu~" they wouldn't believe her anyway. The evasive and roundabout way she was saying things when Schlain and Katia were probing her made it come off that way to me.

    She is their former teacher. Perhaps she was granted with some powers to watch over them like she used to, since she said she feels responsible for them still. Kumoko bitched and got a new superpower, I bet if Oka had begged, or sobbed, or whined hard enough, she got a similar but doomed power.

    Go too far over whatever "line" there is, and Oka is able to use her supervisor powers.

    Kumoko is arguably much farther over the taboo line, she just hit Level 8 Taboo. I guess we'll find out how "taboo" being on the demons' side is, or if Kumoko and Fei really are across the line all on their own.

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    I guess the next question after that is will Kumoko and Fei get so powerful that Oka can't do anything to them because she'd have to physically or magically stop them first?

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    And yet despite all this she hasn't managed to figure out spell casting yet.

    Vision powers were pretty cool but.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    but how does the teacher even know about all the students? apparently she knows about kumoko, too? and then wont tell the others about her, for "reasons" :/
    Obviously, it's a secret.

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    I gotta say, I already love the interactions between the brains. This show needed that.

    I'm excited for he going full Beholder with 8 eye beams!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    At the end of the day the new world is what it is, and we are only learning it bit by bit. It was very game-like from the beginning, though, so nothing happening here is a huge surprise.
    Lots of isekai take place in game-like worlds without actually BEING video games. Slime, KonoSuba, Shield Hero, Girls in a Dungeon, etc.
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    Since there's a video-game background looming around, it could be elf-sensei was playing said game prior to the collective death of that classroom ?
    Also, numbers were only stating that one classroom. But since the incident felt like a huge explosion, or at least a wide area/volume catastrophe, the whole school body is dead I guess.
    Would it be possible there's a comp beetween classrooms ? Former teachers being captains ? Or if not a comp, teachers have meetings and think strategies to find their students, protect them in that new world and groom them so that they can survive longer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Lots of isekai take place in game-like worlds without actually BEING video games. Slime, KonoSuba, Shield Hero, Girls in a Dungeon, etc.
    Yeah, but it still seems pretty funny that an isekai with lots of game-like elements would by some kind of subversion of what we know if it actually was a game, regardless of if it seemed to be a reincarnation/summoning isekai, not something entered as a game originally. It's far more strange, in my opinion, to have the usual game elements in what ought to be a fully functional, steady fantasy world. That being said, if the game world is your whole reality, is it still relevant to call it a game world, despite all the weird things like interfaces, experience points, system voice, etc?

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    Btw was has always bothered me: Isn't the english title of this anime, like, REALLY bad? "So I'm a spider, so what?". Why is there a second "so" at the beginning? Wouldn't it sound much better if it was "I'm a Spider, so what?"?

    English isn't my native language, so maybe someone else can chime in and say something. But to me, that "so" in the beginning sounds like a bad amateur translation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Btw was has always bothered me: Isn't the english title of this anime, like, REALLY bad? "So I'm a spider, so what?". Why is there a second "so" at the beginning? Wouldn't it sound much better if it was "I'm a Spider, so what?"?

    English isn't my native language, so maybe someone else can chime in and say something. But to me, that "so" in the beginning sounds like a bad amateur translation.
    I would barely know enough Japanese to buy ramen in Japan, so I have to ask: Are the "ga" and "ka" in the Japanese name related to your question? Like, could you say it repeats something in a similar manner to how the English title repeats "so"? If they are, then I'd understand the English title, although otherwise I fully agree with you. I guess, generally speaking, it's trashy looking on purpose.

    Btw, there's another isekai series (no anime), called "Murabito Desu ga Nani ka?" Its English translation doesn't have the first "So", it's just: "I am a villager, so what?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Btw was has always bothered me: Isn't the english title of this anime, like, REALLY bad? "So I'm a spider, so what?". Why is there a second "so" at the beginning? Wouldn't it sound much better if it was "I'm a Spider, so what?"?

    English isn't my native language, so maybe someone else can chime in and say something. But to me, that "so" in the beginning sounds like a bad amateur translation.
    Can't say if it's an accurate translation or not, but this little two letter word is very versatile, which can have multiple uses and meanings.

    In the context of this sentence, if you read it with a bit of sarcasm makes better sense. Like the first part is like an "Apparently I'm a spider..." like pondering something absurd, then she goes quickly to "so what?" to accept it her happy go lucky way. That's ONE way to look at it.

    But it's really not weird from an English standpoint, particularly if we give it a more colloquial use and trying to give it a more comedic inclination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I would barely know enough Japanese to buy ramen in Japan, so I have to ask: Are the "ga" and "ka" in the Japanese name related to your question? Like, could you say it repeats something in a similar manner to how the English title repeats "so"? If they are, then I'd understand the English title, although otherwise I fully agree with you. I guess, generally speaking, it's trashy looking on purpose.

    Btw, there's another isekai series (no anime), called "Murabito Desu ga Nani ka?" Its English translation doesn't have the first "So", it's just: "I am a villager, so what?"

    The "ga" here simply means "although" and the "ka" is the usual question-particle that's usually omitted in spoken Japanese.

    "Kumo desu ga" = "Although I'm a spider"
    "Nani ka" = "is something?" aka "so what?"

    The "so" at the beginning of the english title just sounds bad. Dunno. If you guys don't think it's weird, I guess I'm wrong.

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    Not a native English speaker, but I understand the "So I'm a spider" as "Oh, I'm a spider" with a notion of surprise. Then counterbalanced by the so what ?, leaning towards "so be it"

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    Being overly focused on the title of a series where the protagonist gets excited about talking to herself and doing tons of chuuni things.

    Nai wa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Nai wa.
    Weeb.

    The title should be "I'm a spider, so what?" or "I'm indeed a spider, got a problem with that?" to make it sound more natural. The two "so"s sounds and reads wrong.
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    Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, a whole lot of you seem to have a particularly strong aversion toward English's many empty or otherwise meaningless reduntant words and phrases that really just don't mean much of anything at the end of the day.

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    It's just bad/wrong 🤷*♀️

    If it was 'so I'm a spider, so what', i'd expect this in Japanese:

    "Saa, kumo desu ga, nani ka?'

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