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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    My point is and has been proven in the news, more since the CDC has changed their infected and dead numbers three times (Lowered each time).

    Now they won't lower the numbers to where they need to be. Most people around the world are noticing irregularities to this so-called virus, that they are now calling a bacterial infection.

    It seems like they don't know what to call it when questioned why it is not behaving like other viruses which share the same traits and ways of replication. Under a microscope many doctors are calling it a bacteria and not a virus.

    It has a 99.98 survivability. The flu kills between 3-4 % yearly. I am sure even you can see the point being made here. If you like fear mongering based on lies, then that is your problem. You sound like Pelosi who was mad there are 50,000 dead in the US compared to the predicted 1-2 million (Can never happen) for the 3 month time frame given by that fake doctor.

    You know this already and has been proven, the normal flu death rate is still higher than this so-called Chinese Flu. If you don't believe me, you better check the CDC numbers. The CDC revised these numbers 3 times because everyone keeps asking them why their numbers were wrong.

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    Also many are noticing that if you take the Chinese Flu deaths and add them to the Flu deaths, they are surprisingly close to the previous years real Flu deaths. Anyone with a brain can see they hyped a fake virus and just relabeled 1 quarter of the real Flu deaths as the Chinese Flu.
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    It's literally the apocalypse right now. I'm so over 2020!
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    We've managed to be really under the curve, so now it's about gradual economic recovery. I expect that we'll get spikes in the next few weeks, but it's just about making sure that it's at a level that our hospitals can handle. At most I expect that we might have delays to our easing restriction plans as opposed to actually going backwards and having to reinstate any restrictions that have relaxed.

    Long term immunity would be tricky since SARS-COV1 hasn't even gotten a vaccine yet after 5+ years. That said, that virus never had the same drive to develop a vaccine like this one.

    USA has bigger fish to fry but.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Long term immunity would be tricky since SARS-COV1 hasn't even gotten a vaccine yet after 5+ years. That said, that virus never had the same drive to develop a vaccine like this one.
    There're apparently many huge efforts to develop Covid-19 vaccines all over the world. I've no idea if anyone seriously bothered to try with the old SARS in the first place.

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    If I recall correctly, SARS initial trials on mice found the particular issue where the one implementation resulted in occasionally worse symptoms, and then SARS was largely eradicated in 2004, so all the funding dried up and vaccine development was abandoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
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    lel - in what 5th world country does the flu kill 3-4% of the infected yearly?

    Either way, you will probably not understand this, but a 3-4% deathtoll of such an infectious virus in any modern country would be devastating to the economy.
    Not to mention that the sheer amount of patients itself is/would already cripple everything.

    "just a flu" - he says.

    alongside other factors that are quite dangerous, such as incubation time - 1-2 days (normal flu) vs 1-2 weeks (corona)
    the lack of immunities.
    the lack of medication
    calling it "just a flu" is simply not true.
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    The following was a facebook post by an intensivist in our country whom I had the pleasure of learning from as a medical student. Great guy. He puts this really well:

    Quote Originally Posted by A fucking brilliant intensivist
    I’m an intensive care specialist in a small city.

    Coronavirus isn’t just like the flu, but it’s only really very dangerous to the elderly or the already unwell. Quite a lot of people in their 80s will die, but most of the rest of us will probably be okay.

    If you’re in your 70s and you get Coronavirus, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

    If you’re in your 60s and you have a heart attack, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

    If you’re in your 50s and need bowel cancer surgery, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

    If you’re in your 40s and have a bad car accident, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

    If you’re in your 30s and have terrible pre-eclampsia as a complication of pregnancy, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

    If you’re in your 20s and have a bad reaction to a party drug, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

    I have 7 beds equipped with life support machines. We have a plan to increase to about 25. Getting more isn’t a matter or more equipment or more money, that bit is easy. There are not enough skilled staff, even if we all work double shifts every day for six months (and we probably will).

    If 50% of my city gets infected, that’s 75,000 people. If 5% of them need life support (which is the estimate), that’s 3750 people. For 25 beds.

    And then I might not have a bed for you.

    So it’s up to you to flatten the curve. Wash your hands. Stay home.

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    Stop spreading COVID already people. My gundams are being delayed because Australia won't let people ship stuff in yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Stop spreading COVID already people. My gundams are being delayed because Australia won't let people ship stuff in yet
    You just had to order the Gundam Vector model, didn't you?

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    I'm living in the US. Nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    You just had to order the Gundam Vector model, didn't you?
    As long as I wear a mask I'm good.


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    Has anyone here caught it? Has anyone you know?

    My best friend caught it and got sick for 3 weeks or so. His coughing was intense, and fever was pretty bad. He lost his sense of taste as well, but eventually made a full recovery. He lives in the Netherlands.

    My friends here in the US have caught it but developed milder symptoms, just a fever and coughing. All have made full recoveries except one whose sense of taste is still a bit off. None of my friends in the Philippines have caught it.

    Fortunately, no one I know has died yet.
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    A young client has had it, fairly quick and easy recovery.
    An older one died from it, living in the east of France in the beginning of the outbreak that was pretty severe in that region. He was a cardiologist, but at the time nobody knew how to deal with it.
    It seems the protocols are getting better at handling patients partly explaining why with so many positive cases we do not get the surge in ICU patients we had last spring.
    Another explanation might be that positive people are younger, after all most exposed summer jobs are for the younger generation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Has anyone here caught it? Has anyone you know?

    My best friend caught it and got sick for 3 weeks or so. His coughing was intense, and fever was pretty bad. He lost his sense of taste as well, but eventually made a full recovery. He lives in the Netherlands.

    My friends here in the US have caught it but developed milder symptoms, just a fever and coughing. All have made full recoveries except one whose sense of taste is still a bit off. None of my friends in the Philippines have caught it.

    Fortunately, no one I know has died yet.
    Just one cousin that had it. She had flu-like symptoms for a few days, then couldn't taste or smell for a few months after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    then couldn't taste or smell for a few months after.
    This is absolutely terrifying to me. My biggest interest outside of moe~ is food. I love to cook, but I love to eat far more than that.
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    My next door neighbor died from it. I have another neighbor two houses down that's currently in the hospital with it and pneumonia.

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    How seriously are people treating the pandemic in your area?

    Here, there is a mask mandate, but a lot of people don't wear them outdoors, and wear them improperly indoors. People still travel and congregate in large numbers. Some restaurants and bars are full capacity, even though stores have "limited" capacity.

    How are you dealing with the restrictions in your daily life? Particularly going out and/or vacationing?
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    I live in Augusta, Georgia. The mask mandate here only requires you to wear them inside buildings and businesses. Most people I see don't have a mask on unless they're really old. If a young person has on a mask, they usually have their nose out. Whenever I go get groceries at Walmart, I see a lot of unmasked people. Even the employees are unmasked or have only their mouths covered. Walmart doesn't even enforce their mask policy to avoid fights.

    Three counties here in Georgia rank in the top 20 for new COVID cases. As of 3 p.m. today, there have been 5,604 deaths in Georgia, an increase of 28 since the previous day. Over the last 14 days (8/17-8/30), the average daily increase in newly reported deaths was 64.43 deaths each day. Over the previous 14-day period (8/3-8/16), the average daily increase in newly reported deaths was 61.57.

    There have been 268,973 cases confirmed in Georgia, an increase of 1,215 since the previous day. Over the last 14 days, the average daily increase in newly confirmed cases was 2,281.64 new cases a day. Over the previous 14-day period, the average daily increase in newly confirmed cases was 3,132.

    Personally, my life hasn't changed much. I just stay in my room all day like I always have. I only leave my house for groceries. Most of the time I'm ordering McDonald's or Captain D's through Uber Eats.

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    Social distancing is still a thing in my state. Masks are not mandatory but recommended especially in areas where social distancing isn't feesible like some public transport. Masks are mandatory within hospitals. Nursing homes and hospitals allow no visitors.

    Research from outbreaks in Australia found that healthcare workers mostly didn't get infected by patients (one or two did), but then gave the rest of it amongst each other in cafeterias etc - so in my hospital now all medical staff wear goggles and masks as a minimum at all times aside from eating. Even some of us don't do it properly, let alone patients.

    We're now getting some community cases, but new cases are all less than 10 per day, probably even less than 5 per day (in my state).

    Overall the general population is taking this more seriously than before. At the start, it was believed to be a mild flu-like illness without much consequence. Then when lockdown was in place hardcore, people reluctantly complied.

    Because we were lucky and also had a low population density in general in my state with good backywards and big homes we didn't have a large outbreak.

    People then thought we overreacted and went about their daily business. This was roughly when the Black Lives Matter situation happened.

    The Southern state of Victoria then had an outbreak shortly afterwards. It's much worse there than the rest of the country and we've essentially locked them out. As such, the general population has realised how badly this can actually effect us and nobody wants to go back to full lockdown - thus people now take this seriously.

    No one I am close to has had COVID.

    My life itself hasn't changed. I've been going to work as usual for the past 8 months (plus extra precautions), social distancing is not possible at work. When I'm not working I don't really go out anyway. I stay home and play games + chat with friends online when I do. Occasional dinners and stuff outside. Groceries when necessary.

    There was a particular day when the entire orthopedic department was being tested for COVID so there were only 2 surgeons doing things in the whole hospital. That was an issue for our emergency department for some time because patients needed their input.
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