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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    I'm glad the knight at least realized what a non-issue not being able to hang out in the library is.
    Perhaps because he's an outsider. The temple folks ought to be more or less hardcoded into thinking the precious books will never leave the library. I wouldn't still call it a non-issue. The temple is the heart of the religion, and religion is all about tradition and following the established forms and norms. It's one of the most difficult organisations to change at all, in any direction, even if it's something seemingly insignificant. All things considered Main is getting an extreme amount of freedom as it is. Of course it's due to being able to exploit her deep pool of mana, but it's still all thanks to the head priest, who has personal interest in Main (what's inside her head).

    The knight got quite sagacious lecture from Ferdinand. The head priest is very successfully made to be an intelligent character, which makes me happy. Too many isekai authors aren't capable of that and need to rely on plot convenience to make folks look smart.

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    More good content. Gutenburg is almost ready, and this upcoming travel is already shaping up to be lively.

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    I loved how she turned "Gutenberg" into a title that's given to people lol.

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    episode 30:

    Hm, kinda flat episode imo.

    What I didn't quite get: Was the attack at the end so powerful because of Main's mana or was the new jerk priest powerful by himself? I'm just surprised that Main was out of mana so quickly suddenly, when they always implied that she has such an enormous amount of it inside her.

    Although, I kinda liked the realism of Karstedt's attack lol. In most anime, no matter how strong an attack, there'd be remains, likely even still alive enemies around. Here the attack was so powerful, that it obliterated everything in a certain radius, leaving no trace.

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    Episode 30


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    It's like this suddenly turned into an action series! Maybe I should have suspected as much with that new priest that behaves more like a character from a somewhat comedic action title. To be honest, when we started to see glimpses of powerful people targeting Main, I thought we would be offered a far more subtle but nefarious plot to catch her. This was anything but. But then again, if Sylvester is more like a typical noble in that city, as opposed to Ferdinand, maybe this is how they operate, with over the top, brazen stunts. If that's indeed how it is, then Main is actually far safer than she would be otherwise. Although she might be getting some background, or backup, however you put it, later, for the time being she's still only loosely attached to any powers. So, more indirect methods by using corruption, established structures, laws, and traditions would leave her with less ways to defend herself. But if it's just barbarian attacks, nobody's going to blame anyone if nameless heads roll.

    Quite an interesting episode, all in all.

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    Much happened, encompassing what appears the entirety of the winter rituals. Good to see the church depicted as actually travleing and doing things to curry favor with the peasantry; not being just a monolithic building to collect taxes/tithes.

    When was it established she was traveling with the cooking servants for Mr. Benno's restaurant? I forgot all about that sub-plot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    when we started to see glimpses of powerful people targeting Main, I thought we would be offered a far more subtle but nefarious plot to catch her. This was anything but.
    I think the implication was that there was an escalation in schemes to make her first excursion her last. The first one being the lord's hospitality that would have no doubt ended with tragedy, and when that failed, the kidnappers at the next estate, and finally the out in the open magic attack. The battle was okay, but this isn't that kind of series, and the direction doesn't really suit it/support more than this every once in a while, like the Trombe battle last season. A balance is nice.

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    episode 31:

    Oh, nice intriguing end there with the approaching pedophile noble, lol.

    I liked the talk between Main and the priest, but one thing that was frustrating to be omitted by Main was mentioning that people's lives ultimately became much better by the widespread of books and information in general. I would have liked to hear the priest's answer to that, see how loyal he is to the status quo versus making the world a better place.

    Also, it's not like the Gutenberg press was a job killer lol. The opposite: Due to normal people having access to printed stuff, demand rose exponentially. The few books that were created by hand before took eternally to be done and were then sold to a few noble people. The books and newspapers created with the Gutenberg press were sold to millions of people, so Main could just ask Karstedt or Benno, whoever is better suited here, to strike a deal with other kingdoms to share the Gutenberg press technology and then everyone has work to do. It's not like one press creates all the books. There could be book manufacturers that focus on specific topics, then there'd be newspaper manufacturers, and so on. If I were mine, I'd arrange a meeting with the "book maker guild" or whatever their name is, do one of those blood seal contracts so they cannot steal the technology, and have them present the advantage of this book press. That's how everyone would benefit and Main wouldn't be anyone's target ... well, maybe the target of some conservative noble who doesn't want people to read.

    Oh, and wasn't the scene cute where the grown man priest groomed the little child Main and gifted her a necklace? /s

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    Delia's deal is still so strange. Was she there in Main's crew to placate the high priest? I can't remember anymore. She's a spy in open, yet still act friendly with Main, then next moment goes to the high priest to report anything she thinks worth reporting. Everybody knows she's doing that and barely even bothers to hide it. Is there some bigger plan behind allowing it to continue? Perhaps hope the high priest makes a mistake and loses his life, based on the information. Although I suppose this time we are supposed to think the pedo noble will instead aim for Main or Main's family. I don't really believe anything bad will happen, but if it did, it's hard to imagine Delia being able to continue as she does much longer. The high priest wouldn't care about a single gray robe brat's life, unless he saw some value in making that life a big deal for his own political goals. After all this time, it's difficult to believe Delia could gain redemption anymore. She just doesn't care at all even if Main gets killed due to her actions. She doesn't care about others, nor herself.

    Main was indeed quite silent about the possibilities of printing press and the changes in the society and business it could bring. Maybe it's because she hadn't ever stopped to think about it and thus explaining it all extempore was impossible. All she wants are physical books in her hands and to spread the love of books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Oh, and wasn't the scene cute where the grown man priest groomed the little child Main and gifted her a necklace? /s
    Yeah, that guy...he's kinda sus. Not sure what his deal is yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Yeah, that guy...he's kinda sus. Not sure what his deal is yet.
    His general behavior is quite childish. I'd say he likes children because his personality is immature. He shares a wavelength with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Delia's deal is still so strange. Was she there in Main's crew to placate the high priest? I can't remember anymore. She's a spy in open, yet still act friendly with Main, then next moment goes to the high priest to report anything she thinks worth reporting. Everybody knows she's doing that and barely even bothers to hide it. Is there some bigger plan behind allowing it to continue?
    Having her there is very beneficial because they know she's a spy, and thus, can control the flow of information.

    If they lost Delia, the High Priest would find a new spy, and next time, they might not know who it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Yeah, that guy...he's kinda sus. Not sure what his deal is yet.
    I mean, we know that pedophilia is okay in this world, considering how accepting everyone is about nobles marrying children like Deliah or the head priest enjoying Deliah's company (in the past), too. Thinking about it, I'm surprised Twitter hasn't cancelled this anime yet, lol.

    But I hope the new rude priest is a good guy and doesn't turn out to be totally nasty like most of the upper class in this world.

    Btw I always laugh when they show the noble district: Everyone has the same house and they're all perfectly aligned. As if someone played medieval SimCity and wanted to maximize stats. Kinda dumb, because you'd expect a sense aesthetics at least in the upper class ranks in this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Having her there is very beneficial because they know she's a spy, and thus, can control the flow of information.

    If they lost Delia, the High Priest would find a new spy, and next time, they might not know who it is.
    True, but they don't seem to control it all too well. It's more like they only make a token effort to control it, but in reality don't really care. That would be understandable since she's there permanently, everywhere. It would be difficult to keep her out of the loop all the time. Maybe they allow the situation to continue like this because they can still get along with Delia. If they must suffer a spy and information leaking, at least they can choose a spy that's not too insufferable. It's not like the high priest could just send in a new person without everybody knowing what's going on. If an existing member of Main's group was ordered by the high priest to become an informant, we all know how well that would work. Main would probably need to dictate to the poor bastard what to tell to the high priest. Delia at least is so amoral that if the high priest told her to poison Main, she just might do it. So, she fulfills that thankless role without a complaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Btw I always laugh when they show the noble district: Everyone has the same house and they're all perfectly aligned. As if someone played medieval SimCity and wanted to maximize stats.
    Lol, thought exactly the same thing.

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    Just binged this. Good watch.

    -Not knowing what pigs/wolves are? They have a damn pig slaughtering festival..

    -Sylvester as a priest is weird. Much of the series was about having Myne behave like a priestess/noble, then this guy rocks up lounging around and doing whatever the fuck he wants, and everyone is rather okay about it.

    -During the Trombe fight, Myne said Ferdinand was lying about having little manner left. Specifically she said he has enough for the ritual and then some. I wonder what her basis is for this statement. Can she actually detect people's mana now?

    -When Myne first used the Crushing, it was portrayed as if she was stronger than even Ferdinand. Now I'm not so sure. I think if he wanted to kill her, he probably could.

    -Kids with Devouring just need to know a single spell, and dump mana into that to stop themselves overflowing. I suppose this plot device is over already.

    -The adoption thing is essentially what we had a few years back, but now learning magic under a nice noble to live longer is better than being mistress of an unknown noble while being fed magic items.

    -they did a good job portraying how anti-competitive guilds are.

    -Story has been a pretty interesting progression of firstly gaining connections (Benno/Otto), amassing wealth then ultimately power.

    -I think there was a subtitle translation error during the black-magic-vs-carriage-fight. The subs say something to the effect of "keep casting the shield so the black magic absorbs your mana", but I think I heard something more like "The black magic will absorb your mana (if you get close), keep casting the shield spell from above"

    -"Myne" is the superior way of writing her name.

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    Would you recommend this to watch? And if so, on what merits, so I know if it fits what I want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Would you recommend this to watch? And if so, on what merits, so I know if it fits what I want?
    The main draw of this story for me is that there is a cute, likable character who is eccentric in her goals and outlook on life (wanting books).

    She struggles through poverty and ill health in order to achieve this, and watching some of her inventions reminds me of Dr Stone.
    Unlike Dr Stone however, she really needs the help of others in accomplishing what she needs, and at first often doesn't succeed.

    You watch her forming friends, meeting mentors and developing as a person while navigating her way up medieval society - not because she wants to, just because she wants to read - and that can lead her to stupid and funny places.

    I agree with MFauli's Kemono no Souja comparison in that this is a rather slow series with the main character originating from humble origins yet ending up much further from there.

    (I'm struggling to convey why I like this while avoiding major plot points/spoilers)

    This show does not have any action.

    It involves economics later on because book making is not cheap. It leads to some enjoyable bickering. I get some Spice and Wolf feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    -Sylvester as a priest is weird. Much of the series was about having Myne behave like a priestess/noble, then this guy rocks up lounging around and doing whatever the fuck he wants, and everyone is rather okay about it.
    You shouldn't compare Main and Sylvester. Main is a commoner given a blue robe through tough negotiations, which only succeeded because the temple desperately needs sources of mana. She's still looked down on by folks because blue robes belong to nobles. Sylvester is obviously a real scion of an important family. He can do whatever he wants due to the his background. Main, however, needs to try to blend in really hard to be able to maintain her position, in official contexts. I believe I said it earlier, but Main is actually given a lot of leeway as well. It wouldn't be unimaginable if she had been made to behave like a good little girl, studying religion and other priestly activities all day long, restricted from doing pretty much anything selfish. Instead she uses most of her time to run her workshop, putting the orphans under the temple's care to good use in there. You can hardly say that's an ordinary duty for a priestess.

    In short, Main is every bit as weird as a priestess as Sylvester is as a priest.

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    Episode 32

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    I thought Lutz was supposed to inherit Benno's company...

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    I'm kinda disappointed that all nobles except for the gentle head priest seem to range from either arrogant pricks to outright evil assholes. Let's not kid ourselves, if Main hadn't been introduced via the head priest, even Karstedt and her guard would treat her like shit. And now we saw those other nobles that meet with the priest leader and everyone is so comically evil, ugh. Make this whole world feel so unpleasant to live in. A revolution is warranted, but with royalty monopolizing magic fighting abilities ...

    Also wtf, did the anime really claim that THIS is the first time a desperate mother left her baby at the church? Come on, that makes no sense, lol. Also, for a moment I thought Main's mom would join her at the church, because she is a "wet nurse", having a baby of her own rn. But then I would have felt bad for Tuli, so I'm glad that didn't happen.

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