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    So I can find this thread again when I continue editing my list :>

    Continued my list until 2004. Man, anyone saying "anime is just as good nowadays as it was back then" is just plain lying. So many classics back then in a single year. <3

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    Nostalgia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Nostalgia.
    That's all this is. Rose-colored glasses to try to back up a claim that is fundamentally untrue due to its subjectivity.

    MFauli claims 2004 was a banner year, and I didn't list a single series from that year. Looking back to it, there was some truly fucking garbage series that year too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Nostalgia.
    I'm currently rewatching Dragon Ball Z and it's better than Super or Daima so far.

    The "it's just nostalgia"-retort always comes from people too scared to admit that past things were sometimes better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I'm currently rewatching Dragon Ball Z and it's better than Super or Daima so far.

    The "it's just nostalgia"-retort always comes from people too scared to admit that past things were sometimes better.
    Or the "the past was better" comes from people who just became bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    past things were sometimes better.
    Sometimes being the operative word. The actual pattern is it is the same or better in more modern times due to technological progress. It is however true that we have a lot more trash to wade through now because more shows are being produced than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Or the "the past was better" comes from people who just became bitter.
    I mean, again, I'm rewatching these old anime rn and so far they all hold up and ARE significantly better than what's currently airing or in recent years. Not sure why this is controversial either.

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    Selectively comparing the isolated gems of previous years and decades to present-day dreck isn't controversial...but it is fully disingenuous.

    You're repeatedly ignoring the garbage of those same years. There's just as much middling forgettable series in the mid-2000s and 2010s than there now.

    Fun fact: 2004 has the worst rated anime of all time in it (and also the third worst rated).

    You're also treating the alleged quality as an isolated variable while ignoring the fact that you've very likely just burnt out on anime in general or at least certain genres after 20 years of watching it. I know I have. The stuff you're nostalgic for now was back when you enjoyed watching it because it was fresh and novel and therefore it "holds up" while series in the same sphere but made today feel like something you've seen a dozen times before, because you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Fun fact: 2004 has the worst rated anime of all time in it (and also the third worst rated)..
    which are?

    also, this is probably a good thing, it means that the industry was willing to take chances and aired something which was very "out there", it could be a mega hit or a miss. and in this case, it was a miss. could have just as easily been a hit like FMA.

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    Hametsu no Mars & SD Gundam Force.

    They weren't taking chances. One was a garbage cash grab of a big franchise and the other is the infamous trash VN adaptation.

    At least EX-ARM was a disaster because the production team had never animated anything before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    You're repeatedly ignoring the garbage of those same years. There's just as much middling forgettable series in the mid-2000s and 2010s than there now.
    ... are you dumb?

    Why would anyone compare the WORST of anything? Any medium has lots of trash. Why does this matter? A year full of medicore stuff is not better than than year with tons of trash that has some true masterpieces.

    You're completely warped in the head to be so confident about your stance, when you're the one with the weird, nonsensical attitude. Yes, I'm comparing the best of each year - how does that NOT make sense?! Only that way can I see at a glimpse how good a year has been. And 2004 happens to have had a lot of alltime classics (according to my taste). Why would I look at any trash anime of that year?

    I truly, 100% do not understand what your argument here is.

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    He is saying you are comparing the best of multiple years versus more recent but singular seasons. If you are comparing one-to-one, there will be variances since some seasons are stacked and some are not, but it will not be a pattern of older is better. Some newer seasons have great works in them that rank similarly to old classics. In fact, in a few more years, these will be considered part of the older classics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    He is saying you are comparing the best of multiple years versus more recent but singular seasons..
    Where am I doing that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Where am I doing that?
    Literally yesterday. The entire premise of this thread. Throughout this thread. In multiple other threads repeatedly.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Man, anyone saying "anime is just as good nowadays as it was back then" is just plain lying. So many classics back then in a single year. <3
    The one starting this discussion every time is you. Same disingenuous baseless assertion each time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Literally yesterday. The entire premise of this thread. Throughout this thread. In multiple other threads repeatedly.



    The one starting this discussion every time is you. Same disingenuous baseless assertion each time.
    Again, WHAT is the mistake here?

    I'm saying anime were better in the past. And my list proves that imo. What triggers you so much? My opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Again, WHAT is the mistake here?

    I'm saying anime were better in the past. And my list proves that imo. What triggers you so much? My opinion?
    Yes, because it is a bullshit opinion that's reliant on your delusion that anime was better in the past. Take off the blinders and look at the garbage that aired around your highlights from the past. The floor wasn't any lower then and the ceiling isn't lower now. It's objective fact that the average is better today than it was in the past.

    Just because you're burnt out on anime doesn't mean there isn't good stuff today, it just doesn't meet your edgelord taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    look at the garbage that aired around your highlights from the past.

    WHY?!?

    are you trolling?

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    We can't all be trolls, Mfauli. Not saying that you can't have your opinion, but don't get mad when the vast majority of people disagree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    We can't all be trolls, Mfauli. Not saying that you can't have your opinion, but don't get mad when the vast majority of people disagree with you.
    But what Ryll is doing has nothing to do with opinions. He's insisting on some weird ass evaluation system where one is forced to compare THE WORST anime of a year to reach the "true" quality assessment for that year. How does that make any sense? I honestly don't understand his thought process here.

    When people talk about "the best year for video games" and then some say "oh, it's 1999" - "nah, it's 2004" - "no, it's 1998!", they compare THE BEST games of these years. Nobody compares the garbage that also releases in these years.

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