Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou

[MFauli]

Hajime Nagumo and his high school class are suddenly summoned to a fantastical land as heroes. But while most of his classmates have powerful stats and abilities, Hajime does not. Underappreciated and unprepared, he tumbles into the depths of a monster-infested dungeon where voracity and sacrifice are his only options. To thrive in this savage world, he’ll have no choice but to welcome the abyss.

Episode 1:
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First, I'm disappointed that the 'whole class is transported to isekai' aspect is glimpsed over without any meaningful impact. Maybe we'll see flashbacks, but meh. I was looking forward to an entire classing finding themselves in an isekai and trying to adapt oh well.

Instead we get a survival introduction. It was kinda cool, especially the monster design, BUT: Nagumo already gives me Tate no Yuusha-vibes, as in he's got an op cheat-ability ( gaining abilities by eating monsters). Is it really that uncool these days to become a hero by hard work and dedication? Always these insta-upgrades, meh.

There's a lot of potential though. I hope there will be consequences in the story and people actually die. Also, I'm not quite sure: Is Nagumo getting back to the surface the larger plot or will he be back next episode?

[Ryllharu]

I've heard the novel is okay, if not good.

This was goddamn awful. I couldn't even get through half the episode. I assumed they were trying to rush through some stuff, but this was one of the worst uses of in medias res that I've ever seen. It only served to make less interested.

The animation was bad, the CG looked worse than the later seasons of Overlord, the voice acting is 100% phoned in, and nothing in this episode was original.

[Munsu]

As I feared, they rushed through the whole first novel pretty much. There was no build-up to how he ended there, there's no weight to anyone's action or his transformation. I don't blame them, since other than the setup, his struggle to live through the maze after he falls takes just about the whole novel which is hard to adapt, but how he slowly transforms his mentality it's one of the charms. And what led to that transformation is even more important.

And as you mentioned MFauli becoming a hero by hard work, since that's precisely what that character was all about and the courage he shows while being the weakest, until he was forced to adapt.

I don't know, I'm not sure if I'm going to care enough to give this series a try, guess I'll wait to see how people are reacting after a few episodes.

I'll just say that I did a quick scan through the first episode as I just wanted to get a quick impression from it, I really hope I proved wrong.

[Kraco]

I had better memories from the manga's beginning than what this first anime ep presented. Although those are just memories, and I can't say anymore how different it exactly was.

[David75]

I'm guessing his op power is luck being a transmuter only and having that purifying water and maybe absorbing monsters in a very progressive power curve so that he doesn't die immediately ?
Art is quite awful too and MC design before and after powerup is awful too.
Next we get to see MC pwning everyone ?

[KrayZ33]

Obvious "lets jump on the isekai hype-train"-show without any artistical touch or twist in any form whatsoever.

Not as bad as the other one with that "devil" character though.

[Munsu]

Looks like this series had some production drama with the author being disappointed how things were going, still didn't help matters:


https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...change/.148858

[Kraco]

I wonder if it went from bad to worse or from the worst to worse. Because based on the first ep, the year's delay did nothing to help the case in a reasonable fashion.

[MFauli]

Episode 2:

You know, if this anime told the story in a normal, chronological order, it could have been half-decent.

The constant flashbacks are super irritating.

[Munsu]

Episode 2:

You know, if this anime told the story in a normal, chronological order, it could have been half-decent.

The constant flashbacks are super irritating.

I guess they wanted to get to the payoff of what the series is about right away, the first volume takes a while for them to get to the point where he fails, and then he spends pretty much the rest of the novel in power-up mode by himself. So I can see how it was going to be difficult to get viewers into the story... don't know how long the series will be.

But all told, I thought it was going to be difficult to get new audience into the premise of the show in the first episode, but even so, it seems like they screwed up the whole narrative.

The first volume is also quite dark and gritty, not sure if they're portraying that well here.

[MFauli]

Episode 5:

Anime went full-pedo :/

[shinta|hikari]

Why do people keep using that term wrong?

[MFauli]

Why do people keep using that term wrong?

She looks pre-pubescent, he looks much older, not to forget the age of those who watch this show. . Im using the term right.

Look, Im just annoyed by this unneccesary shit. Ever since the gross nude scene in Abyss, it feels like nude loli scenes have been growing in number. This season alone we have Mao retry and UchiMusume that did this shit, too.

No anime gets better from showing nude lolis.

[shinta|hikari]

He also has to be mainly or exclusively attracted to prepubescents, assuming she really looks prepubescent, which is arguably possible from the perspective of non-Asians. However, she has boobs, as tiny as they are, which is a secondary sexual characteristic that develops during puberty. This seems to be a more reliable way of determining her age/appearance than just personal opinion.

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Just use the term lolicon because that's usually used as a joke in the Japanese otaku community, although still badly perceived by the Japanese general public. Pedo has very different connotations and consequences in the west.

[MFauli]

Ffs, shinta, 12 yo girls have boobs like her. None. Because has none. Also no feminine curves, no ass, no hips, no nothing. Shes full-pedo material. Kinda shocked youre defending this shit.

[shinta|hikari]

I'm not defending the presence of the material. I'm pointing out the misuse of the word. 12 year-olds with boobs are not prepubescent. The very existence of boobs is a sign of puberty. 2D lolicon stuff is also not pedophilia.

Hebephilia addresses attraction to pubescents, which would be a bit more accurate, but still off because it requires primary or exclusive attraction to that group.

Go ahead and bash the loli fanservice in this show (which I don't even watch) or any other show. Just call it what it is and not what it isn't.

[KrayZ33]

You are splitting hairs.

a body of a 8 year old or 12 year old. Who cares, they are children/minors.

On top of that, what do you expect. After a little research - even the scientific categorization is not clean on this. Why would a normal dude even bother then for something that is unverisally categorized by media and common folk as pedophilia

[shinta|hikari]

Like I said, I don't care if you dislike the presence of fanservice of characters depicted as minors in anime. I'm just pointing out the misuse of the word, especially because media and common folk get it wrong. Call me pedantic, but I like to point out mistakes, as you probably already know.

[MFauli]

Itd be hebephilia if you find post-timeskip Hinata hot. Actual boobs, curves everywhere, buuut shes 15 yo.

The girl in arifurete is a pre-pubescent child. You keep mentioning her boobs - where are they? Ffs, at best something is "budding" there, but overall she looks like a pre-pubescent child. Ans i criticize the growing number of thus shit. An anime can have loli, no problem. But dont fucking put her in a sexual context, and definitely dont show her naked :\

[shinta|hikari]

I totally agree with you that fanservice in general sucks and just ruins immersion, don't get me wrong. Also, I don't watch this show so I don't have a stake in it. Just wanted to clarify that so you understand there is no hidden agenda in my words. I literally mean what I wrote.

All I am saying is, from the very start, "loli fanservice is not pedophilia." The term pedophilia as understood by many people is completely wrong. 2D lolicon fanservice or even hentai is not pedophilia, even if the character is indeed pubescent.

So let's say you are correct and that character is indeed pubescent, that is still NOT pedophilia because 1) the MC is not primarily or exclusively attracted to prepubscents, and 2) this is not real but anime. You can argue that you meant the MC as a character went full pedo, in which case I will give up point 2 but point 1 still stands.

I'm arguing for accuracy, nothing else.