Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba

[DarthEnderX]

What makes you think they're incomplete?

Tanjiro is shit at it, but that doesn't mean the techniques are incomplete.

I guess because it is functionally and visually indistinguishable from Fire Breathing at the moment?

I guess I'm just assuming that when he actually successfully performs Sun Breathing, it'll actually...ya know, look or DO something different!

Because if it doesn't, WHO CARES? It's JUST more Fire Breathing! Why should I care that Tanjiro actually does Sun Breathing if IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT?!

Question: Is the implication that breathing styles are hereditary, dna-based? Or is it something that takes a lot of time to learn and therefore is part of these various clans/families who teach their children from young age?

Just trying to figure out if everyone *could* learn any style or not.

Seems like it's both. Tanjiro DID learn Water Breathing. But now supposedly his body isn't really "compatible" with it. Which is probably DNA related.

It's probably like using an element in Naruto or Nen type in HxH that isn't your specialty. You CAN use it, but you'll always be weaker at it.


That reminds me! I'm STILL waiting for this show to explain what the fuck sword color means!

[Ryllharu]

Question: Is the implication that breathing styles are hereditary, dna-based? Or is it something that takes a lot of time to learn and therefore is part of these various clans/families who teach their children from young age?

Just trying to figure out if everyone *could* learn any style or not.

I disagree that it is hereditary. It's more like "this is my family's dojo" and the flavor of karate/kendo/judo/Fire Breathing that goes with it. If the same family are practitioners, it is because they're doing it as tradition.

The compatibility is genetic, but not in the way it matters. More like, an individual just doesn't have a knack at math, but they're really good at art. Or someone unrelated may be gifted at art, so they work closely with a family of artisans while the eldest in the family gets a business degree instead.

So I don't really agree with the way Tanjiro conveyed Rengoku's final message to his little brother. Tanjiro encouraged him to stick with it and that hard work will make him good at Fire Breathing. But the way I took Rengoku saying it was to have Tanjiro to tell his brother not to beat himself up over struggling with it, and to follow his heart. Not advising a direction, just saying don't kill yourself over it...like their father got when it came to Sun Breathing.

[Buffalobiian]

Entertainment Arc ep06

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I guess because it is functionally and visually indistinguishable from Fire Breathing at the moment?

I guess I'm just assuming that when he actually successfully performs Sun Breathing, it'll actually...ya know, look or DO something different!

Because if it doesn't, WHO CARES? It's JUST more Fire Breathing! Why should I care that Tanjiro actually does Sun Breathing if IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT?!

So.. like this?

The moves are no different. Tanjiro is still only executing the moves he's learned from his dad.

When done slowly, it's a warm dance.
When done quickly it's an attack.
When done properly it stops demons from healing.

The effectiveness right now is bound by how physically conditioned Tanjiro is, not by his familiarity of technique. The move itself is not bastardised. He's dishing it out. The bit that doesn't make sense is why Tanjiro's dad gains endurance by performing the dance, while Tanjiro consumes it.

But damn, Nezuko.. muzzles off, boobs out. I wonder if she can just consume Tanjiro's blood to power up without losing any humanity. He's dripping it out anyway.

Daki looks uglier in full mode. Her talking with her brain missing was funny as hell.

[Ryllharu]

With Daki hearing the blood-inherited memories, I wonder if there in an innate fear across all the demons about Sun Breathing. She instinctually ripped off her own foot at the ankle to get away from Tanjiro after he caught her, even though she can probably easily beat him with her full power.

I guess it makes sense that Sun Breathing is equated fire that flows like water, plasma, whatever. It's more like Waterbreathing in style and motions, but manifests as fire. And it burns them much harsher. Also interesting in that it is depicted as cutting very effortlessly, but is leaving ragged cuts where it has gone through.

But I guess Sun Breathing is actually anaerobic at full speed? Tanjiro's little sister warning him to breathe, he finally did, and got a huge backlash. Had he been holding his breath in this whole time? Or maybe using it damages the lungs. That would make sense with their father.

Nezuko going to full Anego mode.

[neflight86]

Great fight with the back and forth- just what I like to see. Did not expect Nezuko to show up in a useful capacity, but she did, and possibly got some arbitrary powerup? Said powerup also being from a girl into a woman, apparently...

Interesting that the sun breathing (or whatever style Tanjiro was using) was making him cease to breathe here.

Is the other demon Muzan 'lost' to his influence the girl demon from s1 who is collecting the blood samples to reverse demonization?

[Buffalobiian]

Is the other demon Muzan 'lost' to his influence the girl demon from s1 who is collecting the blood samples to reverse demonization?

Yes, that's Tamayo.

[MFauli]

Ok, that was the worst bs in terms of deus ex machine. Literally TWO deus ex machina moments in one episode, LOL. I mean, I'm not dropping the show over it, 90% of shounen have these bs moments, but come on.

First, Tanjiro is now suddenly a "chosen one", with one of his descendents having fought Muzan. So much for a hard-training hero, it's all given from now on. Bummer.

And then Nezuko gets a power-up in the most random way. She's a demon. She can't train her body, it stays the same forever. All the power is given to her from the beginning (unless she started consuming human bodies, but she doesn't do that). Why activate this power now and not in countless earlier life-threatening battles? Eh.

It was nice to watch, no question. But it didn't feel "earned". Unlike the finale against the thread-demon in an earlier season where Tanjiro truly gave his all and, together with Nezuko's burning blood-ability, finished the demon off. I dunno. I would have preferred more believable progression. To suddenly be able to fight an upper rank-demon feelsl akin to Gon being able to fight Neferpitou, but I have doubts that Tanjiro will have to pay any comparable price for awakening such power.

To end this posting: I guess this episode officially marks the point in history where we're allowed to lewd Nezuko now. LOL, damn, those are nice boobs. Then again, it really needs to be stated: This season has plenty of nice boobs, be it the Oiran-demon, the three wives or now Nezuko. :>

[Ryllharu]

First, Tanjiro is now suddenly a "chosen one", with one of his descendents having fought Muzan. So much for a hard-training hero, it's all given from now on. Bummer.

Did you miss the part from Tanjiro where he refuted Rengoku Senior by saying that the mark on his head is pure coincidence? Others may think Tanjiro is a chosen one, and while he certainly does appear to be the secret heir to Sun Breathing, but they've set this up all very nicely to make Tanjiro very similar to Rengoku.

The burn mark from childhood was always there from episode 1. We saw the moment it got to its present state. We knew that Rengoku wasn't favored and had to teach himself after his mother died and his dad became a deadbeat. And Rengoku thought he was a loser too, but everyone loved him. Because he took after his mother, with the hard work ethic and infinite kindness she instilled in him. The same "stuff" that Tanjiro has always exhibited.

Tanjiro followed up the reminder-flashback with his own line that he's not special. He just works hard like all the Good Boys do. He's one of those heroes who is just going to try even though he will probably die (and the plot will of course spare him for that display of actual virtue because this is a shonen and not a seinen).

And then Nezuko gets a power-up in the most random way. She's a demon. She can't train her body, it stays the same forever. All the power is given to her from the beginning (unless she started consuming human bodies, but she doesn't do that). Why activate this power now and not in countless earlier life-threatening battles? Eh.

It was nice to watch, no question. But it didn't feel "earned".

They have sort of explained this. We're quite a few years into the series timeline now, because all the training montages are serious timeskips. Two years on the mountain to learn water breathing. A few months more traveling to the first test, several months each time there's another healing and more training montage after one of the big fights, because they heal at normal human rates.

Nezuko has slept in her box, or in a room, the entire time she's not shown on screen (or shown awake in her box). The elders of the series have somewhat implied that in not drinking blood, and sleeping the whole time, Nezuko's body has been up to something that none of them have ever seen before. Which is because Muzan normally takes them in right away (like he re-explained to the audience through Daki) and gets them onto murdering people.

It has been implied that her hibernations are why she has displayed such absurd strength despite never taking in a single drop of human blood, or that her regeneration is far above what it should be (not the first set of legs she has lost if you remember). She compresses her size and just accumulates power. Maybe through Muzan's blood all by itself?

But I'm with you on the Nezuko having this horn power-up and the vine markings (similar to Daki's flower marks and other Upper ranks that they mentioned at one point). That wasn't earned at all. Maybe we'll see something next time to explain any of it, but I dunno.

Did Muzan go all out and inject her with an Upper Rank quantity of blood from the start or something? Or maybe the setup they've worked in here is that indeed, Tanjiro did not inherit the 'chosen one status' that makes a forehead mark. Because Nezuko did. It could explain her burning blood.

Bit of a retcon with the younger brother saying how scary Nezuko can get when she goes into Anego Mode. So yeah, explained why her demon form is mountain ogre, but wasn't earned like Tanjiro's parts were.

[DarthEnderX]

Amazing fight. But Tanjiro looks goofy with blood in his eyes.

So.. like this?

Yes.

Now that his attacks burn them the way sunlight does, NOW I believe it's Sun Breathing.

But to me, that still suggests that his previous attacks weren't Sun Breathing.

The moves are no different.

I don't think the moves determine the style, the breathing does. He's Sun Breathing now because he's breathing different than before.

And the moves they are taught are just moves that work beast with their breathing style.

Said powerup also being from a girl into a woman, apparently...

Well, she could already change into a child. I assume this is the same power, in reverse.

Tanjiro followed up the reminder-flashback with his own line that he's not special.

Just because he says it doesn't make it true.

Naruto called himself a loser a lot. He still ended up being secret ninja Jesus.

Tanjiro is definitely some kind of chosen one.

[Ryllharu]

Tanjiro is definitely some kind of chosen one.

Still going with Tanjiro isn't, but Nezuko definitely is.

[DarthEnderX]

I wonder if demons can use breathing techniques. They don't need to breathe, but can they force themselves to if they want?


Also, I really hope Nezuko doesn't continue to not speak now that her bit is out.

[MFauli]

Still going with Tanjiro isn't, but Nezuko definitely is.

I didn't really mean "chosen one" because of his forehead scar or anything. The flashback showed someone who looked like his father (but wasn't, I assume) who opposed Muzan in the past with his sunbreathing techniques. Tanjiro is related to that guy, so now he's the chosen one in so far that he's the descendant of someone who also fought Muzan. That's shit just like it was shit in Naruto when we found out that our hardworker/outcast was actually related to a whole bunch of historically important heroes.

Again, I don't care too much about that anymore, I'm used to it. But let's recognize it.

As for sunbreathing: If it really was sunbreathing, shouldn't he have been able to cut off her head even despite her loosening up the material? Sure, the physical sword edge wouldn't be able to cut, but the sunbreathing effect should still dissolve her tissue like a chemical reaction?

[shinta|hikari]

I didn't really mean "chosen one" because of his forehead scar or anything. The flashback showed someone who looked like his father (but wasn't, I assume) who opposed Muzan in the past with his sunbreathing techniques. Tanjiro is related to that guy, so now he's the chosen one in so far that he's the descendant of someone who also fought Muzan.

But let's recognize it.

I think everyone else recognized it the moment Muzan wanted to hunt down Tanjiro after seeing his heirloom earrings...

[MFauli]

Episode 7:

Awaiting the incest doujins

[shinta|hikari]

What the FUCK is wrong with u?

[DarthEnderX]

Nothing new.

[MFauli]

What the FUCK is wrong with u?

lol, spare us the fake outrage. Got nothing to say about the episode?

[shinta|hikari]

I can't wait for the Sound Hashira to die so Sleepy Dood can replace him.

I wonder who Boar's Head will replace?

[neflight86]

Great episode. Wonderful escalation and a fun twist on the Tanjiro/Nezuko Brother/Sister dependency that the demon also has sibling ties. Just wish it were foreshadowed at all, or I missed it if it was. These fights really aren't even trying to be fair, which makes them lively and fun to watch.

[Ryllharu]

It was foreshadowed only for a few frames as Daki was having a flashback about being immolated (by their parents?) during Nezuko's fire-blood.

Agreed that they should have cryptically hinted at it a little more before in previous episodes instead of a handful of scenes before she started having her hilarious emotional breakdown (which is what I love about this series, knowing how to balance action/horror with tension relief).

What absolute killer sound direction and performance to have Miyuki Sawashiro sound like her lips had been burned off in her dialogue.