I assumed it was a lesser demon serving her.Originally Posted by neflight86
I assumed it was a lesser demon serving her.
I assumed from the direct telepathy and it being cloth that it was a part of herself detached for the purpose of protecting her food source.
I still don't fully understand whether the breathing styles produce actual elements or not, or if those are just meant to be artistic flourishes representative of the style...
I always thought it was artistic flourishes, but where that line is, isn't clear.
Shinobu poisons her enemies by using the tip of her blade as "a stinger" to inject wisteria-based poisons and all the butterflies and stuff are definitely artistic. But Tengen has explosive power to crush rock through sound (apparently) and Zenitsu breathes out static electricity contrasted to the other styles who usually just show rushing air, though he's not electrifying his enemies with his one mastered skill. The water breathing and flame breathing are definitely artistic and not manifested.
Though Nezuko's blood really does catch on fire.
Meanwhile, raising your body temperature makes Sun Breathing more effective so.. /shrug.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It's still Fire Breathing. Tanjiro doesn't know anything about Sun Breather, other than that it exists.
Fire Breathing is what Flame Hashiras do. Sun breathing is what Tanjiro does. Tanjiro doesn't know the full ins and outs of it, but his family does Sun breathing.
Tanjiro doesn't practice Fire Breathing.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
And I suppose he also doesn't practice Water Breathing either, right?
Pretty sure when he uses ACTUAL Sun Breathing, it's not going to be mistaken for Fire.
What do you mean exactly?
He does practice Water Breathing, he did practice "Tanjiro-clan" breathing in the past as well afaik. With his father, unintentionally, not knowing it was "XYZ breathing" mostly.
I'm not up to date with the episodes though.
Sun Breathing is the core of ALL breath techniques. So if Tanjiro is using any breath technique, but modifying it so it "feels more natural," it is very likely that he's touching on the forgotten techniques.
When Tanjiro uses Water Breathing attacks, but they manifest as fire because he's inserting the family traditional dance moves and they show it switching to red, we can assume that's Sun Breathing.
Touching on, yes. But not currently using. That was the whole point of the book is to establish that the technique is forgotten, and it needs to be recreated.
Why?
Why do you even assume his dad knew Sun Breathing? It's supposed to be some kind of long lost art. If Tanjiro's father was a Slayer that used Sun Breathing during the same period when Rengoku's father was a Slayer, why would he think it was lost? He wouldn't have to be pondering over some ancient manual trying to recreate it.
If all the breathing techniques are incomplete Sun Breathing techniques, Tanjiro's father's technique is seemingly STILL incomplete Fire Breathing. I'm sure it'll be necessary for Tanjiro to unlock real Sun Breathing, but what he uses now, ain't it.
I'm betting that REAL Sun Breathing...probably fucks demons up like actual sunlight does.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Fri, 01-07-2022 at 08:56 AM.
Do Mouth Breathers exist, too?
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
What makes you think they're incomplete?
Tanjiro is shit at it, but that doesn't mean the techniques are incomplete.
I don't think you should expect one to kick demon once you know Sun Breathing, let alone practicing it by remembering your dad's moves as a kid.
Trainers of different styles send their kids to the exam, some die, some become mediocre and a few become Hashira. Tanjiro sucking at Sun doesn't make it inherently incomplete or bastardized.
Actually, the fact that it's been passed down as a slow dance but when executed in combat becomes a real move (after recognising its true nature as a combat art) suggests that it is the real thing.
Pass it down as a dance. Those who can make it work, will. As opposed to passing it down as a combat art, and those who can't make it work forget or tweak it into something else to maintain proficiency.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sat, 01-08-2022 at 04:41 AM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Question: Is the implication that breathing styles are hereditary, dna-based? Or is it something that takes a lot of time to learn and therefore is part of these various clans/families who teach their children from young age?
Just trying to figure out if everyone *could* learn any style or not.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Passing of technique seems to be culture. Water teacher didn't have any genetic ties that we know of and taught whoever seemed appropriate.
This is from a time when martial arts training required that you start with basic stances for months etc before you can advance to new moves. Remember when Tanjiro had to spend the night running through the mountain full of traps, or when Zenitsu's teacher beat the shit out of him during training?
You didn't have people taking weekend Water training classes for fun, so it required dedicated members, and teachers probably didn't bother unless you were clan/family/introduced. That's the kind of time this was set in.
That said, like all physical skills, one could try to learn any of them, but your affinity may vary. Like if you're short, jumping kicks from Taeskwondo might really help you out, but if you're 6 foot two, your 4 meter jump kicks are kind of wasted. Just focus on a good jab with your genetically massive range. That sort of thing.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I guess because it is functionally and visually indistinguishable from Fire Breathing at the moment?
I guess I'm just assuming that when he actually successfully performs Sun Breathing, it'll actually...ya know, look or DO something different!
Because if it doesn't, WHO CARES? It's JUST more Fire Breathing! Why should I care that Tanjiro actually does Sun Breathing if IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT?!
Seems like it's both. Tanjiro DID learn Water Breathing. But now supposedly his body isn't really "compatible" with it. Which is probably DNA related.
It's probably like using an element in Naruto or Nen type in HxH that isn't your specialty. You CAN use it, but you'll always be weaker at it.
That reminds me! I'm STILL waiting for this show to explain what the fuck sword color means!
I disagree that it is hereditary. It's more like "this is my family's dojo" and the flavor of karate/kendo/judo/Fire Breathing that goes with it. If the same family are practitioners, it is because they're doing it as tradition.
The compatibility is genetic, but not in the way it matters. More like, an individual just doesn't have a knack at math, but they're really good at art. Or someone unrelated may be gifted at art, so they work closely with a family of artisans while the eldest in the family gets a business degree instead.
So I don't really agree with the way Tanjiro conveyed Rengoku's final message to his little brother. Tanjiro encouraged him to stick with it and that hard work will make him good at Fire Breathing. But the way I took Rengoku saying it was to have Tanjiro to tell his brother not to beat himself up over struggling with it, and to follow his heart. Not advising a direction, just saying don't kill yourself over it...like their father got when it came to Sun Breathing.
Entertainment Arc ep06
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So.. like this?
The moves are no different. Tanjiro is still only executing the moves he's learned from his dad.
When done slowly, it's a warm dance.
When done quickly it's an attack.
When done properly it stops demons from healing.
The effectiveness right now is bound by how physically conditioned Tanjiro is, not by his familiarity of technique. The move itself is not bastardised. He's dishing it out. The bit that doesn't make sense is why Tanjiro's dad gains endurance by performing the dance, while Tanjiro consumes it.
But damn, Nezuko.. muzzles off, boobs out. I wonder if she can just consume Tanjiro's blood to power up without losing any humanity. He's dripping it out anyway.
Daki looks uglier in full mode. Her talking with her brain missing was funny as hell.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sun, 01-09-2022 at 12:09 PM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Amazing fight. But Tanjiro looks goofy with blood in his eyes.
Yes.
Now that his attacks burn them the way sunlight does, NOW I believe it's Sun Breathing.
But to me, that still suggests that his previous attacks weren't Sun Breathing.
I don't think the moves determine the style, the breathing does. He's Sun Breathing now because he's breathing different than before.
And the moves they are taught are just moves that work beast with their breathing style.
Well, she could already change into a child. I assume this is the same power, in reverse.
Just because he says it doesn't make it true.
Naruto called himself a loser a lot. He still ended up being secret ninja Jesus.
Tanjiro is definitely some kind of chosen one.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sun, 01-09-2022 at 11:37 PM.
Still going with Tanjiro isn't, but Nezuko definitely is.
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