Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba

[neflight86]

Much more entertaining final episode than I expected. Of course, to preserve the power scaling, what have been defeated so far are relegated to diet kizuki... Makes me wonder why the upper six haven't simply taken over the world if they are strong enough to survive hashiras for over a hundred years while continuing to grow in strength. Overall, I really enjoyed that scene; it was ominous, threatening, and had some juicy exposition. I would have actually put it at the end of the episode instead of the beginning.

[DarthEnderX]

Of course, to preserve the power scaling, what have been defeated so far are relegated to diet kizuki...

But they WEREN'T defeated before. At least, not by our protagonist. He DIDN'T defeat one of the lower six, one of the more powerful mentor characters did. He, in fact, failed to even hurt him.

So there's really no reason to remove all of those from the board at this point. Although, I guess you could say one was left behind specifically for Tanjiro to stepping-stone on.

[neflight86]

I'm certain that the big bad said that the lower six were getting replaced all the time, or at least regularly. As a matter of fact, I believe that the only thing all of the hashiras have in common is that they have dispatched a 12 kizuki (now understood to mean a lower six member). That still creates a tangible 'power difference', presumably to preserve the menace of the upper six.

[KrayZ33]

The reasons they were removed was to tell us about Muzan and how he ticks, no reason to ignore the more obvious reasons.
To think that it was done due to a mistake of the author is a little silly and far fetched imho.

[shinta|hikari]

And because that's how shounen power levels are established... You fight someone "strong" and then later find out they were weak shit, and the literally higher number ranking ones are much stronger. That's how the story keeps going while keeping suspense and meaning in earlier fights.

I'm really surprised everyone is treating this show as an exception despite it being blatantly and predictably shounen. Better animation doesn't change the genre.

[KrayZ33]

Who's "everyone".
Even Darth isn't talking about how it's unrealistic for MC to rise in power like that. He's just not satisfied with how fast he gained power or rather, how soon he faced end-bosses on somewhat equal terms and thinks the balance is out of order.

[DarthEnderX]

It's more that, we established a tier of enemies for the protagonist to overcome. And then we just removed that entire tier before the protagonist actually successfully overcame anyone in that tier. And now he's moving up to the next tier, having never successfully overcome the previous tier.

If he'd BEATEN Spider kid, then yeah, wipe out that tier, he's done with it, we can move on. But despite the amazing, flashy, heartfelt combo attack, he failed to even hurt Spider kid. Tanjiro's Kakashi had to come and finish the fight for him.

And now, his next opponent is someone who's potentially above his Kakashi's level(since they're stronger than the other Lower 6, but weaker than the Upper 6, and no Hasira has beaten an Upper 6).

[shinta|hikari]

I meant people were complaining about a 12 kizuki being so easily defeated by a hashira, and I said repeatedly that it's because it's a shounen story. That specific kizuki isn't "strong" and many more stronger (higher ranked) ones will come out later, but somehow no one seemed to realize that was the case.

EDIT:

To be fair, it wasn't "everyone." Krayz was agreeing with me, while Mfauli and Darth were saying that white brat was handled badly.

So it's 2 people who didn't recognize the obvious shounen tropes.

[Munsu]

Can't wait for the BD release of the movie.

[shinta|hikari]

It will be released very soon before my birthday, so it will be an awesome present.

This movie is loved and highly acclaimed everywhere.

[Buffalobiian]

I've seen this in cinemas but I'll wait for BDs before discussing.

[neflight86]

Salt water edition is out (movie was on PSN for a few hours and got ripped before being pulled).

I thought it was... okay. I don't understand how this broke all of the sales records that ever were or will be- it was merely okay. The train demon was interesting until the children assassins started trying to break the 'cores' and failed one after another. Their story was never really resolved nor mentioned again, even after one accomplice stabbed Tanjuro.

Fights were okay, but I am not fond of 'regenerating tentacle' monsters, so that didn't really do it for me. I enjoyed the 'falling asleep and waking up' bit, even though it looked like the demon could have attacked him more in his staggered state.

What must have won over the audience was the post train portion. That was pretty good stuff from the hashira, but his character wasn't developed enough to really endear me to him, and Tanjuro's screaming at the retreating demon was so awkward that I expected the kizuki to actually give in to the provocation and get himself killed (which he thankfully didn't). It was jarring that nothing came of it, and he threw away his sword for no reason. It felt like wasted screen time. Overall, a good way to condense an arc that I don't think I would have enjoyed as much in weekly format, and give a high level battle movie quality animation. I still don't see Kimetsu no Yaiba as anything special, but its production elevates it above my opinion, that's for sure.

[Buffalobiian]

Magnetic link for PSN version of the movie: Click here

Quality is less than Blu Ray, better than cam rip.


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-The setup for the movie wasn't bad.

-Weird how it went from Flame Bro choking the little girl to him sitting back in his seat again. That was super weird.

-The whole sleep suicide thing by Tanjiro was well done. The demon trying to bait him into killing himself in real life was a trippy.

-Zenitsu's short fight was cool while it lasted.

-Tentacles was fairly boring.

-Final fight was well animated, but he came out of nowhere and was a little tacked on. Kinda like the final fight in Iron Man 1.

-I never got invested into Flame Bro, so I didn't feel sad when he died. He mainly felt slightly awkward and weirdly upbeat.

-All in all, a well animated action movie, but not deserving of best animated movie of all time or something like that. A handful of old Miyazaki films, the top one or two Makoto Shinkai ones (whichever you prefer) and the Dragon Ball Brolly movie (the most recent one) should rank higher than this.




-edit: I forgot. Nezuko <3

[MFauli]

Before I watch this movie: This is basically a direct continuation of Season 1 and the lead-up to Season 2, correct? thx

[Buffalobiian]

Before I watch this movie: This is basically a direct continuation of Season 1 and the lead-up to Season 2, correct? thx

Direct continuation of S1 = yes.
Lead up to S2 = presumably yes. I don't know about the plot of S2.

[DarthEnderX]

I gotta agree with neflight.

While this was some high quality Demon Slayer content, I have no idea how this become like the biggest movie in Japan ever.


This movie gave a LOT of weight to Rengoku's death, but like...we barely knew that character.


Also...did Tanjiro just lose another sword?! Swordmaker is gonna be pissed!

Although, that leaves the door open for him to recover it later, after getting a new one! Fire/water dual wield?!

[MFauli]

My two complaints first:

- this anime series has an inherently flawed character design. Although the heroes are supposed to be young adults, their heads look like that of a child's. Their head shape is too round, their eyes too big. This becomes especially obvious when anyone's mother is next to them, and the mother basically could as well be their sister and it wouldn't looks out of place, either. I know that anime in general has an issue to properly display the difference of ages in the 13-30 yo range, often times there's barely a difference and height and clothing are the only way to tell. But KnY is especially bad in that regard.

- That upper-demon totally lacked any "oomph" until the end. All other shounen series I know did this better. Akatski in Naruto, Captains in Bleach, Admirals in One Piece, Freezer/Cell/Boo in Dragon Ball, Geneiryuudan and the upper Chimeras in HXH - they made me immediately feel their threat-level. This upper demon just had a too generic, lame design and there were no special effects to somehow mark him as more threatening than other demons.

THAT ASIDE: Fuck, I started crying during the "raven delivers the message to everyone"-montage. >_< That broke my heart. And then that fucking demon didn't even die. I had hoped that somehow Tanjiro's final attack would have opened the forest enough to let the sunlight reach that fucker.

Zenitsu didn't haven much appearance, but the one he did was fantastic. Both showing off to Nezuko AND awesomely saving people with his lightning move. However, it wasn't explained how he actually regained consciousness. The dream demon even mentioned at one point that Zenitsu hadn't woken up at all. Considering Zenitsu's technique relies on him falling asleep, it would have been interesting to see more closely how things went down here.

Overall, I enjoyed it, but it lacked movie quality. The animation was good, but so was the first season's. I'm glad this was made in a movie, though, because otherwise it would have taken up sooo many episodes, possibly an entire 2nd season. But wtf: How long is the manga supposed to run? Unless there's a mass-killing event where most upper demons die at once, the pacing will be super slow. After all this, the author wouldn't even let one of them die?! I guess at least it makes for a cool "re-union" when Tanjiru meets that demon again who's still having his sword now.

Very curious to see how our three heroes will grow stronger, because they're far below the level to fight with the upper demons.

[Buffalobiian]

Zenitsu didn't haven much appearance, but the one he did was fantastic. Both showing off to Nezuko AND awesomely saving people with his lightning move. However, it wasn't explained how he actually regained consciousness. The dream demon even mentioned at one point that Zenitsu hadn't woken up at all. Considering Zenitsu's technique relies on him falling asleep, it would have been interesting to see more closely how things went down here.

Zenitsu's body moves on its own, however his consciousness stops his technique from manifesting - so by putting him to sleep the demon basically enabled Zenitsu. His body just needs dire situations to drive his instinct to act.

[MFauli]

Zenitsu's body moves on its own, however his consciousness stops his technique from manifesting - so by putting him to sleep the demon basically enabled Zenitsu. His body just needs dire situations to drive his instinct to act.

I know that. Just would have liked if it was presented more in-depth in the movie, like, say, a scene where Zenitsu's body slowly starts to move and the dream demon is all like "masaka!", and all. Just a bit more oomph here.

[Buffalobiian]

I know that. Just would have liked if it was presented more in-depth in the movie, like, say, a scene where Zenitsu's body slowly starts to move and the dream demon is all like "masaka!", and all. Just a bit more oomph here.

Instead of Zenitsu coming in with a surprise Nezuko rescue? The movie's handling had much more impact factor, short as it was. The movie had Nezuko strung up, yanking her hard enough to show pain - and right when that emotion resonated with us, out of nowhere Zenitsu flashes through half the train to cut her loose.

I think any foreshadowing would have lost impact.