Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari

[KrayZ33]

Yes, that would've been the most optimal thought process and decision.

But this is why I tried to use that weird example with the 5c on the ground to try and explain Naofumi's thought process, considering what we've seen of the orb until now, his status, his mindset about royality and their schemes and the situation itself.

Basically I'm thinking that Naofumi had reason to not bother and didn't question it further even though they certainly could've used additonal lines there such as "Shall I capture them, Master?" - "Why even bother, whatever they are trying to think up, they'll paint me as the villain anyway" or "No, we should see to it that we get somewhere safe, they probably called for assistance using that magical orb and this place will be full of soldiers soon"

etc. etc.

[KrayZ33]

Ep 14:


Ya, pretty interesting, but it's somewhat of a letdown if you consider that you have to wait a week and the next episode title sounds like it might be some kind of flashback episode.

At least I got to see some bird action

[Kraco]

That noble didn't seem overly worried about detaining and planning to assault a royal princess. Seems like the king's rule is quite flimsy. No doubt with the queen away, the nobles far away from the capital have become bold. It doesn't help Malty is pouring gasoline on the fire (even literally), but you'd think many nobles would hesitate when dealing with an idiot like her.

[shinta|hikari]

Shit episode again. This show is degrading very quickly.

[Buffalobiian]

Melty shouldn't have been scared. She's got Water Blade.

[Kraco]

Melty shouldn't have been scared. She's got Water Blade.

Probably takes too much time to cast. I don't remember anymore. She's just a kid anyway. She has the right to be scared.

[Buffalobiian]

Well as a kid, yes she has the right to be scared.

Realistically as the second most important person in the nation with the Queen's shadows at close proximity at all times I presume, she should never be in any real danger. She should probably also know it.

[KrayZ33]

Shit episode again. This show is degrading very quickly.

I actually thought it was better than the last and better than some of the earlier episodes. So it's going uphill again!

[shinta|hikari]

Different expectations.

[Ryllharu]

Shit episode again. This show is degrading very quickly.

That's the general impression I see from most people regarding the manga and the novel itself. It's great, until it suddenly very much is not. Glass' first appearance is the turning point in my opinion.

The series has a decent narrative, and should have a good ending spot to that narrative (Naofumi clearing his name completely). Then they introduce Glass and imply bigger picture stuff is going on that has never been even foreshadowed in the slightest.

It's like the point in most shonen series where the first narrative ends and then bam...Tournament arc with an entirely new nemesis out of nowhere.

[Munsu]

Episode 15:


Overall didn't mind the substance of this episode much, it brought back a lot of the "weight" the earlier episodes had, but kinda hate how they seemingly retconned Raphtalia's past. Not that it was a bad background for her to have, just that it makes little sense considering her reactions to things so far. Also, if this background was true, she should've had more urgency to resolve it than she's had until now (which has been none).

[KrayZ33]

The darker tone does this show *so-much* good.

[Kraco]

Also, if this background was true, she should've had more urgency to resolve it than she's had until now (which has been none).

I never thought about that. You are absoutely correct. She never did anything to suggest she would have wanted to return to this castle to rescue her fellow villagers. I don't remember how this was in the manga. It would have made more sense if she had had a strong reason to believe all the villagers had been shipped away.

[KrayZ33]

Well, she had nightmares since forever and those weren't caused by the hound alone, which they've killed in episode 3 or 4.
She was never able to conclude with her past... until now (probably).

Also, I'm not really sure if she is the type to urge someone else into her problems.

[Munsu]

Well, she had nightmares since forever and those weren't caused by the hound alone, which they've killed in episode 3 or 4.
She was never able to conclude with her past... until now (probably).

Also, I'm not really sure if she is the type to urge someone else into her problems.

Her nightmares were always framed with the deaths of her parents. But now in this new past, it seems like that whole scenario had no impact on her psyche at all.

[KrayZ33]

The last episode before this one showed that her nightmares returned to her due to where they are and what has happened in the past.

I don't see how this is any different now than in episode ~2 where we saw her in a cage on the slavemarket.

We already know that she was a slave and that she got punished/beaten more often than not ever since the end of episode 1 / beginning of episode 2.

There is also the little extra bit from the kid's menu - the flag - she held so firmly in her hand while eating. (just to point out that cute detail there)

edit:
Overall I'd say I agree, the trauma was too easily defeated. I do think however, that this has been the case from the very beginning and not just now, because her past/flashbacks in this episode were hardly worse than what we already knew about it/her.
But then again, she jumped up a decade or so physically in less than a month and who knows how much she aged mentally as well when she grew up like that.

[Munsu]

The last episode before this one showed that her nightmares returned to her due to where they are and what has happened in the past.

I don't see how this is any different now than in episode ~2 where we saw her in a cage on the slavemarket.

We already know that she was a slave and that she got punished/beaten more often than not ever since the end of episode 1 / beginning of episode 2.

There is also the little extra bit from the kid's menu - the flag - she held so firmly in her hand while eating. (just to point out that cute detail there)

edit:
Overall I'd say I agree, the trauma was too easily defeated. I do think however, that this has been the case from the very beginning and not just now, because her past/flashbacks in this episode were hardly worse than what we already knew about it/her.
But then again, she jumped up a decade or so physically in less than a month and who knows how much she aged mentally as well when she grew up like that.

My point is that in the "new" past, her parent's death tragedy really didn't have much impact on her... I mean, she was already all about doing the smile thing, and rebuilding... she wasn't crying or anything about her parents. Yeah, sad, but not nightmarish as portrayed earlier in the series. It wan't the event that was holding her back, which was how it was depicted.

What this "new" past showed was that her enslavement was more worthy of her nightmares, but the beginning of the series minimized the trauma.

[MFauli]

Last episode was really bad. They made a big deal of what was done to the demi-humans but NEVER showed anything. So wat? Locked up? Starved? Beaten? That's all so lame.

And the heavy handed death of the bad guy sucked, too. First Raphi generously spares his life. Then , totally out if character, he attacks her again, thus 'legitimizing' that she kills him after all. It made no sense for this guy to suddenly change his mind and believe he could overpower all these people. It was 100% a cheap plot device used by the author to get rid of the guy, because anything else would have required effort :/

Anyway.
I hope the hero more strongly relies on his former no bs-policy. It's frustrating how m@ny times he gets in a bad spot because he's still too soft and passive. Just fucking murder these assholes that go after you! And fuck, if the red haired princess isn't gruesomly killed at the end, it'll be the worst anime ever.

[KrayZ33]

Last episode was really bad. They made a big deal of what was done to the demi-humans but NEVER showed anything. So wat? Locked up? Starved? Beaten? That's all so lame.

"where's muh raaaaaaape 8["

as for the fat man, I think that scene and him getting all agressive was stupid too, his superiority complex for demi-humans wasn't established "enough" to justify the sudden switch in behavior. It happend to fast overall.

But it was certainly not a plot device to get rid of him, because it didn't even get rid of him.

[MFauli]

"where's muh raaaaaaape 8["

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Come on. I just wanted to see something that justifies the slow build up. Instead we saw a generic prison. Ok.