Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari

[shinta|hikari]

@Krayz -

What David said. Or tie them up in a pasture somewhere near a village to delay their escape. (Or kill them and incinerate the bodies... is what I would've done, not that Naofumi would)

Naofumi didn't know about the specific functions of the orb, except that it records video (maybe he didn't even know that, but why risk it? Who knows what they are plotting to do with it...). The transmission capacity is pure conjecture on your part. No one knows how the orb functions exactly.

Why would Naofumi take the risk and let those soldiers and the orb go? Why would he let these villains report back to their superiors about how the operation went? Why wouldn't he want to capture all of them to interrogate for more information (just because one didn't talk doesn't mean the others won't)?

Remember, Filo even offered to chase them. It's not that Naofumi didn't think of the idea. He actively rejected it. Why?

The benefits clearly outweigh the negatives (if there is even any), which means it is the logical thing to do.

Also, just because it didn't occur to you doesn't mean it's not logical.

[KrayZ33]

Naofumi knows about the orb already, it was in plain view, he should have done something about it.

The episode clearly showed that Naofumi didn't even consider the possibility that they can alter the footage or that the orb was even part of the scheme.
And why would he - if someone has the camera rolling, and I'm protecting the princess, I wouldn't think about how they will use that footage to make me look like the dude who harms the princess.
Not to mention that this is certainly not your No#1 thought you have when you see them attacking the princess they are supposed to protect. Seriously, who even knows if he realised the orb and could connect the dots - the first thing I thought when I saw it was that they used the orb to recieve orders and they held it to show their boss that they are doing what they have been told.

Also, just because it didn't occur to you doesn't mean it's not logical.

Ya, but it shows that it's not (quote) "the only logical thing" because it certainly isn't.
The/a logical move is to have them run away, since he doesn't want to deal with them (in any way whatsoever, they are a pain for him to have around) and he already captured one dude for questioning so...

The benefits clearly outweigh the negatives (if there is even any), which means it is the logical thing to do.

What benefits, the benefits you mentioned are merely fictional. the benefits (if there are any) may or may not outweigh the negatives (if there are any).

[shinta|hikari]

Nope, because capturing all of them would have given him a lot more options.

Just in case you didn't realize, he could always just let them go if he decides he didn't need them.

You didn't address the fact that capturing them prevents them from reporting to their superiors, delaying or possibly even canceling whatever scheme they were plotting.

You didn't address the possibility that having more captives to interrogate could yield more information.

You didn't address the fact that even if Naofumi knew for a fact that they couldn't (we know they can, but this is a hypothetical for emphasis) edit the video, there is nothing to lose from obtaining the orb. It might lead to a clue to what the enemy might be planning or stop it completely (the latter being a very realistic possibility in this case, because the transmission idea is not established).

These are all advantages that capturing the enemy would yield.

How is not getting all these advantages versus getting all of them at no cost (just nodding his head to Filo) a logical thing? The ONLY logical thing is to choose the most advantageous option. That's how logic works. You don't intentionally choose a worse option and say, "hey, I got something out of it too, which I would've also gotten if I chose the best option. This is logical!"

Not wanting to deal with them is laziness, not logic. Not saying you can't or shouldn't be lazy, but it isn't logical in this specific case, where you are a widely hated person always attacked by one scheme after another. Information is your best friend in that situation.

[KrayZ33]

Nope, because capturing all of them would have given him a lot more options.

Just in case you didn't realize, he could always just let them go if he decides he didn't need them.

You didn't address the fact that capturing them prevents them from reporting to their superiors, delaying or possibly even canceling whatever scheme they were plotting.

Not a fact, just an assumption. If they don't need to physically bring the orb to the mages, which is *extremly* likely btw. because otherwise he'd be days of traveltime ahead, he wouldn't have delayed anything.
And it's not like I didn't adress the *possibility*, it's just that I find it rather reasonable to not do it, just as much as I'd understand it if he did.

You didn't address the possibility that having more captives to interrogate could yield more information.

Ya, but also possibly less because in a group you tend to be less inclined to tell him what's really going on.
Wouldn't have helped either in this case though.
Other than that, it's not like it's "free" and "super easy" to capture them - if that's the case, what exactly is stopping him from going through the barricade and through the border.
The guards weren't even defeated, they "gave up" willingly for the scheme.

You didn't address the fact that even if Naofumi knew for a fact that they couldn't (we know they can, but this is a hypothetical for emphasis) edit the video, there is nothing to lose from obtaining the orb. It might lead to a clue to what the enemy might be planning or stop it completely (the latter being a very realistic possibility in this case, because the transmission idea is not established).

We know they can *now* - as I mentioned, the orb is probably just noise in this situation. It's not really like dots connect to it in the middle of a fight. You have people trying to kill the princess in front of you, your first reaction would be "what the hell is going on - thank god it's over - let us question the dude who couldn't run away"

Not wanting to deal with them is laziness, not logic. Not saying you can't or shouldn't be lazy, but it isn't logical.

What...? How exactly are they connected in that way. If I don't want to deal with something, I'm not going to deal with it - that's just the most logical thing anyone would ever think of doing. Denying that is without doubt ridiculous.
People will either bother to pick up the 5c from the ground or will not pick it up, either decision is logical.
It's as if you are saying "doing the correct thing in every situation is the only logical move" - no shit, that statement has absolutely no value though.


When you watch shows/movies/plays and judge characters, you have to judge them from their point of view and their beliefs - not from your own.

[shinta|hikari]

Not a fact, just an assumption. If they don't need to physically bring the orb to the mages, which is *extremly* likely btw because otherwise he'd be days of traveltime ahead. He wouldn't have delayed anything.

Sure, I'll give you that possibility. But why wouldn't you try anyway? What do you have to lose? In this specific case, if your assumption isn't true, the entire frame up would've gone up in smoke.

Ya, but also possibly less because in a group you tend to be less inclined to tell him what's really going on.
Wouldn't have helped either in this case though.

Ever heard about separating people during interrogation?

Other than that, it's not like it's "free" and "super easy" to capture them - if that's the case, what exactly is stopping him from going through the barricade and through the border.

It is free and easy. Like I said, Filo offered to do it. He actively rejected the idea. All this is just conjecture on your part, which isn't even supported by evidence from what we've seen of Filo's speed and combat prowess. It's just a bunch of mooks...

We know they can *now* - as I mentioned, the orb is just noise in this situation. It's not really like dots connect to it. You have people trying to kill the princess in front of you, your first reaction would be "what the hell is going on - thank god it's over - let us question the dude who didn't run away"

Actually, Naofumi realized there was a scheme upon seeing the orb, and was supposedly able to react and save Melty because of that. That isn't noise. That's a critical piece of observation that you wouldn't randomly forget.

What...? How exactly are they connected in that way. If I don't want to deal with something, I'm not gooing to deal with it - that's just the most logic thing anyone would ever think of doing. Denying that is without doubt ridiculous.

I edited that last part to make more sense. The point is, it isn't logical to be lazy because you don't wanna be bothered when the chances of shit blowing up in your face later (and you already know this by now, like Naofumi should) by being lazy is extremely high.

[KrayZ33]

Actually, Naofumi realized there was a scheme upon seeing the orb, and was supposedly able to react and save Melty because of that. That isn't noise. That's a critical piece of observation that you wouldn't randomly forget.

I don't think the orb had anything to do with it.
At the very least, it was never pinpointed to the orb - he describes the whole situation as weird and it "felt" like a setup and he didn't even know what's going on and why he feels like that

It is free and easy. Like I said, Filo offered to do it. He actively rejected the idea. All this is just conjecture on your part, which isn't even supported by evidence from what we've seen of Filo's speed and combat prowess. It's just a bunch of mooks...

Why do they run away then. The rest of the episode had far more critical failures than the part of him not getting *additional* captives, which is basically in line with his mood/character (or change of character after episode 1+2) and opinion about investing time and effort into something that has to do with royality or their schemes. By all means, call it a mistake, I don't think it's the most blatant one though because not beating up people that run away from you could actually be seen as a character trait.

Sure, I'll give you that possibility. But why wouldn't you try anyway? What do you have to lose? In this specific case, if your assumption isn't true, the entire frame up would've gone up in smoke.

Hmmmm not really, the orb made the whole thing more believable - considering what's going on, all the guards ever had to say is that Naofumi took Melty from them by attacking and beating them up - the brainwashing bs they came up with later would've remained the same.
It would've been the same as the whole "we found her underwear in his room" scene from episode 1.


Naofumi has to leave the country, trying to clear his name is basically pointless as long as the King and Mia--eh...hot redhead remain in charge - and as long as the Spear is acting like a dud.

I'd rather complain together with you about the "chain" that came out of nowhere and made Filo transform into her angel-form (which is not her normal form), about the logic behind killing Malty/Melty (wtf?!??!?! Killing the girl you want to rescue from the guy who supposedly wants to hurt her) and all the other weird stuff that happened.

(I still liked the episode itself overall though, mostly because I'm used to such nonsense and I'm content with the direction this show is going)

edit: Seriously though, after the readhead dropped that line about killing her, the whole scheme was basically done and failed.

[shinta|hikari]

I don't understand how you seem to think my only complaint about the episode is that, when I said in my initial post:

Drop worthy episode. I have so many complaints I'm not even gonna start. Just trying to forget all this and move on to the next episode.

I just mentioned this one because grabbing that orb, which could totally just be a videocam and not a live camera, could've prevented all the nonsense that happened after.

If I don't want to deal with something, I'm not going to deal with it - that's just the most logical thing anyone would ever think of doing.

People will either bother to pick up the 5c from the ground or will not pick it up, either decision is logical.

I want to put these on shirts.

[neflight86]

I'm at the point now where these schemes are beginning to grate until I understand the master plan behind them. Apparently its the church (the most unfortunate and cliche possibility) behind this, but I don't understand their rationalization so their side has no depth of purpose, and Malty working with them doesn't endear me any further.

I hope we either get away from this for a while or dive in nose first (and get some answers), because these shinanegans are just feeling lazy at this point.

[Munsu]

I'm at the point now where these schemes are beginning to grate until I understand the master plan behind them. Apparently its the church (the most unfortunate and cliche possibility) behind this, but I don't understand their rationalization so their side has no depth of purpose, and Malty working with them doesn't endear me any further.

I hope we either get away from this for a while or dive in nose first (and get some answers), because these shinanegans are just feeling lazy at this point.

Well, from the Church part it's no different than the Crusades. They for one reason or another consider the Shield hero (whomever wields it) devilish. And it makes some sense in some context because we've already seen the Rage side of the Shield. That seems fairly self explanatory.

[shinta|hikari]

I'm guessing a previous shield hero became way too powerful and caused a catastrophe, so the current system is trying to prevent that from happening again. From what we've seen, the shield is clearly head and shoulders above the other heroes in terms of specs and potential.

[Kraco]

I agree with KrayZ. Naofumi already knows the government hates his guts for reasons he doesn't understand, so there's nothing there he would need to learn from those goons. When soldiers try to kill a princess (or a prince), it's obvious it's for political reasons, nothing there to rack your brains over. Making it happen in front of Naofumi, the hated shield hero, would be self-explanatory. At the end of the day, Naofumi is always waiting for the next ill deed against him from the king/government and he has long since given up trying to ask why. His only concern is how to deal with it. However, to maintain his sanity, sense of personal justice, and pride, he doesn't want to make himself the villain the government calls him. That's why he doesn't attack random soldiers and guards, apart from self-defense. It wouldn't really help his case. Attacking them would only help his enemies. He would rather have absolutely nothing to do with them, which is why he treated Melty like he did.

[shinta|hikari]

Capturing soldiers who attacked you and the princess isn't being a villain. It's the responsible thing to do, even if you stand to gain nothing for it. Those guys are criminals, even by the Queendom's laws.

Putting that aside, you are basically saying Naofumi acted in a way that is in character, despite it being a clearly incorrect decision because he got banned from all towns and got pursued by 3 heroes because of it. If that is so, I can understand it. I took Naofumi to be a more shrewd and careful individual who would decide based on benefits vs loss and try to lower risk towards himself as much as possible, but his choice does make sense given what you said. He just didn't give a fuck about them anymore and didn't think through just how much worse his situation could be, which actually came to pass. He made an illogical and stupid decision, but one that made sense considering his scarred past and lack of hope.

Just some info:
Naofumi knew the orb recorded and displayed video. He saw and heard that from the King himself.
Naofumi knew the soldiers had an orb. His POV on that episode zoomed in on the soldiers and centered on the orb itself. It was literally in the center of the screen when he felt something was wrong. If the orb wasn't there, it would just be soldiers lined up, giving him no reason to suspect anything. Therefore, it is most reasonable to believe the orb was the trigger and that he knew it was there.
There is no evidence showing that the orb can transmit video.

Just putting that out there because events that actually happened in the episodes might have gotten muddled up in the discussion.

EDIT:
Before anyone says I can only say these things in retrospect, I was literally screaming at the screen, saying "Capture those soldiers and get the orb!" many times while those soldiers started to flee in that scene. The letting enemies go and having it to bite your ass hard later is just that common (and stupid) a trope. Naofumi, an otaku who likes to read, should know that too.

[KrayZ33]

Just some info:
Naofumi knew the orb recorded and displayed video. He saw and heard that from the King himself.
Naofumi knew the soldiers had an orb. His POV on that episode zoomed in on the soldiers and centered on the orb itself. It was literally in the center of the screen when he felt something was wrong. If the orb wasn't there, it would just be soldiers lined up, giving him no reason to suspect anything. Therefore, it is most reasonable to believe the orb was the trigger and that he knew it was there.
There is no evidence showing that the orb can transmit video.

Just putting that out there because events that actually happened in the episodes might have gotten muddled up in the discussion.

EDIT:
Before anyone says I can only say these things in retrospect, I was literally screaming at the screen, saying "Capture those soldiers and get the orb!" many times while those soldiers started to flee in that scene. The letting enemies go and having it to bite your ass hard later is just that common (and stupid) a trope. Naofumi, an otaku who likes to read, should know that too.

The orb stuff is extremely inconsistent and no-one can grasp what it can and what it can't do from just watching the anime.

There was for example also no evidence that it actually works like a video camera, because no one with an orb was present during the fight against the Souleater on that ship. So you'd think it allows the user to use clairvoyance - though I don't doubt it can be used to record and save scenes/images.
At the same time, he was summoned to the castle right after the whole thing, which would imply that information can be transmitted somehow.
In an earlier episode, they said the crystal ball can be used to gain skills.

Also, for the false footage to spread fast enough, there must be some way to transmit it to multiple locations at once. Otherwise bringing the orb back to base, alter it, bring it to the townspeople, to another town, to another town, to another town before Naofumi can would be impossible.

I don't understand how you seem to think my only complaint about the episode is that, when I said in my initial post:

I never said I do, just saying you seem to have picked one of the lesser "evils" - if it can even be called such. There are much more boorish and stupid ones imo.


Btw. I realised another reason why I like Filo so much, she reminds me a hell lot of Illaysviel.

[shinta|hikari]

Also, for the false footage to spread fast enough, there must be some way to transmit it to multiple locations at once. Otherwise bringing the orb back to base, alter it, bring it to the townspeople, to another town, to another town, to another town before Naofumi can would be impossible.

Or they brought back the ball, edited and copied it to other balls or even a different artifact, and sent the numerous copies out.

Or maybe the ball CAN transmit video, but requires a mage to transmit it post recording, and is not something a soldier can do.

Or maybe the ball can do anything whatsoever, which makes the author an utter idiot.

Like you, I can imagine a hundred different ways it could all play out. Stomping out one of them is always a better move than doing nothing, even if the results end up being the same (because you can't predict everything). That's called risk mitigation.

There was for example also no evidence that it actually works like a video camera, because no one with an orb was present during the fight against the Souleater on that ship.

There is evidence it works like a video camera, because they clearly recorded the "kidnapping" from the ball the soldier was holding, and we've seen the King watch a fight that happened in the past from a ball just like it. At the very least, that means the ball can record and playback video. Why the heck would you have 2 balls that look the same, and one just records, and the other just displays? Sure maybe they had such a dumb magical artifact, but it is more reasonable to assume it's one device that does both.

The orb may or may not have been in the ship fight (somewhere hidden from view, for example), but that doesn't matter. It was there in the assassination and throne scenes. That's solid and direct (vs circumstantial) evidence.

As for whether it can transmit video, there is no solid evidence, only conjecture on your part. We don't even have an accurate grasp of time lapses in this show, so using those as "proof" doesn't hold water. For example, in your "summoned to the castle" scenario, what if news traveled by messenger or some other magical means, and the orb physically traveled with a soldier at around the same pace as Naofumi did (he would have left later because he got summoned after the King heard the about what happened) and arrived at the same time or a bit earlier than him? That would also explain why the King was watching the video while Naofumi was there (because he just got it).

Does this matter? Not really, because it's all conjecture. Compare that to the very highly probable chances (as I explained above) that the orb can record and display video, and it's clear which one is more likely to be true.

[Note: I only say "very highly probable" (vs factual) because anything is possible. However, saying otherwise ("those are 2 different orbs with different functions!") is like claiming you are innocent in a court by saying your long lost identical twin did it.]

[Kraco]

I have no doubt Naofumi saw the crystal ball very clearly and must have thought someone was observing the events through it. I find it hard to believe he would have predicted the kind of modern approach of discrediting him through video manipulation and public playback of the altered recording. He might have expected that back in his original modern world if someone had been recording a confrontation with a camera or a smartphone, but in that historical world? Nah, I wouldn't have. That's why I'd say in his risk assessment of the situation he just wanted everything to be over as soon as possible without anyone dying (because no matter the circumstances, he knew he would be blamed for any deaths). It looked quite obvious the soldiers' Plan A was the princess dying, Plan B being what ended up happening.

Let's not forget Naofumi gains absolutely nothing from confronting the kingdom. Killing a bunch of nameless soldiers would be meaningless as there would be thousands more in reserve. It's also useless to argue against them because he's facing the very government itself and the king's word is the law (as far as he knew). Thus the only practical thing is to try to stay away from them and hope they leave him in peace, like they occasionally have.

[shinta|hikari]

I never said he should kill them (I said I would've killed them and incinerated their bodies, but that's me).

All I've been saying all this time is that the best and logical move would be to mitigate risk by removing all the risk factors that you can. He didn't do that, and it ended up blowing up in his face. Could he have stopped it by grabbing the orb, I'd say highly likely but no one knows for sure. But it's still better than just letting it go. Risk mitigation is very important to people who are already at high risk situations.

So Naofumi definitely did not take the best choice, but I do agree that he made an understandable choice considering his mindset and intellect. Lelouch or Light would never have let those mooks and the orb go.

Note:
I didn't predict the bloody photoshopping they did either. I did however think that with a bit of cutting of the video, they could totally make it look like a kidnapping. I mean, that plan was clearly to ruin his reputation, because that's always been the Queendom's plan.

[KrayZ33]

There is evidence it works like a video camera, because they clearly recorded the "kidnapping" from the ball the soldier was holding, and we've seen the King watch a fight that happened in the past from a ball just like it. At the very least, that means the ball can record and playback video. Why the heck would you have 2 balls that look the same, and one just records, and the other just displays? Sure maybe they had such a dumb magical artifact, but it is more reasonable to assume it's one device that does both.

The orb may or may not have been in the ship fight (somewhere hidden from view, for example), but that doesn't matter. It was there in the assassination and throne scenes. That's solid and direct (vs circumstantial) evidence.

Only to point it out how I see it:

you conclude that the crystal ball was there *after* we've seen it can record stuff like a videocamera.
At point in time where the scheme began, we didn't know the orb has to be in direct sight of what is happening.
Up to that point it looked like they can use clairvoyance and might look at how the fight is going from a bird's eye view because the orb was de facto not present on that ship during that episode.

As for whether it can transmit video, there is no solid evidence, only conjecture on your part. We don't even have an accurate grasp of time lapses in this show, so using those as "proof" doesn't hold water. For example, in your "summoned to the castle" scenario, what if news traveled by messenger or some other magical means, and the orb physically traveled with a soldier at around the same pace as Naofumi did (he would have left later because he got summoned after the King heard the about what happened) and arrived at the same time or a bit earlier than him? That would also explain why the King was watching the video while Naofumi was there (because he just got it).

The messenger part doesn't make sense because the messenger would've had to travel back and forth too. So it would've been telepathy or projection magic (which would lead me to think the orb can be used as a communication device)
Even if the king has seen that stuff inside the orb, that doesn't really mean it's a *recording* device, I didn't think of it as such during that scene even after seeing it..It's not like gypsies showing what has/will happen through a crystal ball are that rare in this genre.
even less so would you think you can somehow alter the footage inside it because that whole thing by itself was so utterly stupid, I couldn't believe it when I saw it happen.

Does this matter? Not really, because it's all conjecture. Compare that to the very highly probable chances (as I explained above) that the orb can record and display video, and it's clear which one is more likely to be true.

Yes, it matters. A whole lot even? I can't say I believe you one bit if you thought of that orb as a video camera that will record the hero during that scene to make him look like the devil because that super "around the bush"-idea is so alien to me and super unnecessary considering his status.

It didn't even remotely appear to me that this thing is to be used as a modern video camera.

Did I expect some dude to order the soldiers through it? Yes... because that's like the most common use for such a thing in fantasy shows from my experience. Did I expect it to be a medieval Canon/Sony-camera? Nah.
That's why it would've not even appeared on my "priority-list" to handle the situation that just occured


The most important thing however is that whether they have the video or not, it wouldn't have made much of a difference. I don't even see the point of that scheme, because they can say anything they want.
For Naofumi and how he is being viewed, what difference does it make.

I'll agree on the fact that it was a "mistake" though..in hindsight of what has happened. However I believe he acted like a normal human being during that particular moment.

[shinta|hikari]

you conclude that the crystal ball was there *after* we've seen it can record stuff like a video.
At point in time where the scheme began, we didn't know the orb has to be in direct sight of what is happening.
Up to that point it looked like they can use clairvoyance and might look at how the fight is going from a bird's eye view because the orb was de facto not present on that ship.

But we know that now. Do you mean Naofumi didn't know about it during the beginning of the assassination scheme? Sure. But it was easy to guess, and yes, I totally did guess it the moment I saw it, which is why I thought Naofumi would too.

The point I was trying to make in those statements is that the crystal is in fact a recorder and a playback tool, NOT that Naofumi knew that. Stop mixing up my arguments with each other.

Doesn't make sense because the messenger would've had to travel back and forth too.
Even if the king has seen that stuff inside the orb, that doesn't really mean it's a *recording* device,
even less so would you think you can somehow alter the footage inside it during that episode

I did mention some other magical means of communication, but that's irrelevant. I was just using that as an example that conjecture is meaningless in the face of direct evidence.

Yes, it matters. A whole lot even? I don't believe you one bit if you thought of that orb as a video camera that will record the hero during that scene to make him look like the devil with (as Buff put it) photoshop later.

I already said I didn't predict they would photoshop it, but I thought they could edit the video to make it seem like a fake kidnapping or assassination. I didn't think they'd spread it in towns. I just figured they'd try to accuse him in a trial again. I can't do anything if you don't believe me. Just know it's ridiculous to lie to someone on the internet who has no bearing on my real life.

Let me put my argument in a simpler way:

Naofumi saw a crystal that clued him in on a scheme because he saw it before in the King's throne room. Said crystal was still with the retreating soldiers. He should've tried to retrieve it even if he didn't know what exactly it did, even if it wouldn't actually help him in the future. Why? Risk mitigation. It may or may not yield results, but the cost of him retrieving the thing (a yes to Filo's offer) and also possibly preventing the soldiers from reporting the results of the scheme was so low that not doing so is just stupid. Whether it would actually help him or not in retrospect is conjecture due to lack of information and is irrelevant.

The funny thing is, one line after he said "No." to Filo could've fix this:

"Something is fishy, so this could be bait for us to chase them into a trap."

I can't put it any simpler, so if it doesn't get across with this, I'll stop here.

[KrayZ33]

I edited a few of my points to make it more obvious what I meant.
You are always so quick to reply. I never expect it and foolishly believe I have time to re-read/reedit to hit the right tone after I post -.-.

The point I was trying to make in those statements is that the crystal is in fact a recorder and a playback tool, NOT that Naofumi knew that. Stop mixing up my arguments with each other.

But no one denies that *now* after seeing it. (I think you confuse my point here, I don't doubt it anymore after seeing the latest episode)

I'm not mixing up your arguments, I'm talking about how the whole thing was seen by me *until* they've shown how the orbs (can) work and try to explain Naofumi's reasoning and thought process through this.

Evidence is different from hints and people like me/you or fictional characters like Naofumi, might or might not get the hint or interpret them in a completely different way.

Up until the photoshop part, there was no clear established fact of how that orb works or what it even is. I'm trying to tell you why there *was* more than enough doubt to not even consider the possibility of it recording stuff.

edit: editing done :>

[shinta|hikari]

I'll agree on the fact that it was a "mistake" though..in hindsight of what has happened. However I believe he acted like a normal human being during that particular moment.

I agree with this, as I already said to Kraco.

And while I keep saying I guessed it was possibly a recording device during the incident, that is beside my point, which is: Regardless if it'd done any difference to the result, that orb (recorder or transmitter or whatever it was) and those soldiers should've been captured for risk mitigation at low cost.