Ep 18
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Having the spear hero taste his own medicine was the best part of this episode. And in fact pretty much the only part that really mattered. Malty doesn't really matter.
Ep 18
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Having the spear hero taste his own medicine was the best part of this episode. And in fact pretty much the only part that really mattered. Malty doesn't really matter.
I didnt notice the static nature of the episode when my eyes are rolled back in my head. My greatest fear now is that Myne and Spear hero become allies without proper restitution.
Another evil church... that's so anime...
Naofumi AGAIN trying to cinvince Motoyasu with words was infuriatingly dumb.
Anf fuck, I can't stand that red haired bitch. Slow rape to death is the only outcome I'll accept or else this whole anime is shit:/
If Myne goes unpunished, I'll drop this shit.Originally Posted by neflight86
I don't think Naofumi is kind enough to let her go unpunished.
"Now that the whole kimgdom knows what a terrible, cheap person you are, I'll leave you be. Live a life in shame. Bye."
Or some similar weakass bs :/
to be fair, how was Naofumi supposed to convince him with anything other than words?
Not like he can do a whole lot? I think he handled it quite well.
He didn't even seek to talk with him. He was basically forced into it because he actually planed to go right through him across the border.
If words failed about twice, I would've convinced him using sheer force. If you beat him down until he can't do anything anymore, and then properly explain, and then heal and free them afterwards, they'd at least know you could've killed them but clearly didn't. That'd go against the idea that Naofumi killed the other heroes, making it more likely for anyone, including the Spear dood, to believe him.
If they still didn't after that, then the heroes will get killed by gigabird.
Peace.
I wouldn't have tried that bs to begin with.
I'd have told gigabird to team up with me. Gigabird clearly is stronger than anything else, clearly stronger than the heroes, so there's that.
Ofc, Gigabird can't team up because REASONS (aka author didn't know how to write himself out of that corner).
But he didn't just stand there doing nothing did he?If words failed about twice, I would've convinced him using sheer force. If you beat him down until he can't do anything anymore, and then properly explain, and then heal and free them afterwards, they'd at least know you could've killed them but clearly didn't. That'd go against the idea that Naofumi killed the other heroes, making it more likely for anyone, including the Spear dood, to believe him.
If they still didn't after that, then the heroes will get killed by gigabird.
He actually fought him. So.. it's not like he didn't use sheer force?
In fact, he acted exactly how you just said you would.
He asked to listen to him, Spear wouldn't listen. He has then beaten Spear in combat, then told him to hear him out once more, then protected him (and the others) from certain death.
there is absolutely no point in getting Gigabird involved.I'd have told gigabird to team up with me. Gigabird clearly is stronger than anything else, clearly stronger than the heroes, so there's that.
Ofc, Gigabird can't team up because REASONS (aka author didn't know how to write himself out of that corner).
They are supposed to reconcile, using force to achieve that won't really help them working together
Last edited by KrayZ33; Thu, 05-09-2019 at 12:08 PM.
Not exactly. He defended against the dude's attacks while trying to explain himself. The moment the enemy ignored your pleas and attacked you, that's the moment you use your most potent weapons to defeat and immobilize him. Then talk again.
I'm so sick and tired of seeing characters try to talk to enemies who are whaling at them.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Thu, 05-09-2019 at 06:46 PM.
Peace.
Why exactly would Gigabird team up with Naofumi? A weakling failure of a hero who can't even work in the four heroes team that the summoned heroes are supposed to operate as. And who's a wanted criminal in his country, to boot. That's like the lousiest business proposition you could imagine to ever get. Gigabird is far better off working alone than in Naofumi's company, for the time being. If I was Gigabird, I wouldn't even think about it until Naofumi is considerably stronger.
In reality I reckon Gigabird knows something the heroes don't know. Something that only the heroes working together (when they are far stronger) can only handle. So, it would be pointless to only work with Naofumi. That's the kind of impression Fitoria's actions gave me.
Gigabird can tank for him and make him stronger. She can also convince the other heroes to reconcile with him, or at least give him the benefit of the doubt and let him prove himself through time. Just letting Naofumi leave like that is the worst decision if her goal is for the heroes to reconcile and become stronger.
What is she even doing right now? I just wished they explained how she is occupied.
The kill all the 4 heroes doesn't seem to be in her to do list anymore after he gave her a lap pillow.
Peace.
What?Not exactly. He defended against the dude's attacks while trying to explain himself. The moment the enemy ignored your pleas and attacked you, that's the moment you use your most potent weapons to defeat and immobilize him. Then talk again.
I mean, I'm rewatching that part just now... it's *exactly* how I explained it and how you would have done it. Even the "trying to talk it out about twice before going with sheer force"
They talked, Spear attacked, he told him to calm down, didn't work -> they fought -> he won -> he told him again to calm the fuck down -> he rescued his ass.
Let's please not nitpick on wether he should've done it one attempt earlier or not.
The lightning cage pretty much started the arena fight - involving all participants in this battle, before Spear attacked, Naofumi asked him one last time to stop that nonsense. The first attack was made and then they fought until spear got defeated, without further talk about stopping it.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Thu, 05-09-2019 at 01:46 PM.
Why does she need to hold his hand? She already saved them by taking out the tyrannosaurus. She gave him some extra shield modes. She made Filo stronger. She gave some info as well. She has done plenty for a lap pillow moment.
Isn't she occupied with defeating the waves all over the world (or whatever region she covers) anyway?
Or who does that.
That's the biggest issue atm. Gigabird is an overpowered plot device that ... is not part of the plot because ... REASONS.
Unless we get a real good explanation at some point, it's just bad, amateurish writing.
It's exactly how YOU explained it, not how I would've done it. Here is what I said I would've done:
"He defended against the dude's attacks while trying to explain himself. The moment the enemy ignored your pleas and attacked you, that's the moment you use your most potent weapons to defeat and immobilize him. Then talk again.
I'm so sick and tired of seeing characters try to talk to enemies who are whaling at them."
If it were me, the moment I blocked his first shot was the only free one he is getting. He chatted a bit then attacked Naofumi again, in which case I would've deployed all weapons at my arsenal to defeat him, waaaay before the lightning cage was deployed. That's 2x words failed, like I said in my initial post. Blocking while pleading isn't using sheer force.
Reread bold parts.
It's not uncommon in shows to do this, which is why I am so sick of it and cringe when I see it. When someone hits you seriously, beat them and talk later.
For the record, Spear dood attacked Naofumi 7 times before the lighting cage got deployed. That's 7 times words failed. I stated clearly I'd only allow twice.
And I still can't believe Raphtalia hasn't at least dismembered Bitch's arm or outright killed her by now. Fucking Disney shit right there.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Thu, 05-09-2019 at 07:16 PM.
Peace.
I count 3(maybe 4 *if* I missed one) attempts, maybe 7 strikes in all since one attempt invovled blocking/a combo but that's not the same thing, as that would be equal to saying peace talks between 2 countries failed 1000 times because 1000 people died in the first battle.For the record, Spear dood attacked Naofumi 7 times before the lighting cage got deployed. That's 7 times words failed. I stated clearly I'd only allow twice.
Anyway - he gave up on talking to him as soon as he realised how much Spear has been tricked and how much he is being used by Myne.
After being told by the bird to do exactly that - talk - defend your position, to try to convince the others, this is exactly what he was supposed to do.
If you really want to nitpick at the number of attempts, sure, go ahead, I'll give you that, it is in fact different from the amount you stated. But that's about the only difference from your attempt/scheme to solve this situation. You could say your fuse is just shorter than his.
The situation is rather clear though that this scene played out as I described earlier with this buildup in mind.
Talk -> Attack (but not yet life threatining) -> Talk again -> Attack (Realizing something is going on) -> Talk one last time -> Force and try to clear up the misunderstanding after defeating him.
You can clearly see the change between from "wanting to talk" to "wanting to defeat/beat him"
I've witnessed bar fights that go like this...
Maybe with one less attempt to simply just defend against offensive actions - but basically the same idea. (though Naofumi can't even take offensive actions)
People (in their right might) tend to not hurt someone until they get hurt themselves, or when their patience is running out.
Especially if they know the other person or are trying to ease up the situation due to whatever reasons. (In this case, because what the Bird said earlier)
I think any other reaction than Naofumi's would've been weird after what the Bird told him about the heroes, what Spear said during the initial meeting and the high level difference between these too.
Naofumi got carried by Filo, Princess and Raph in this fight.
It's not like Naofumi just sat their and took the beating either, he was actually trying in earnest to stop Spear as soon as we could see the use of Shield Prison, which is all he can do anyway before getting others involved.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Thu, 05-09-2019 at 11:55 PM.
Naofumi is not strong enough to pin Spear hero down, because is levelling is capped.
He clearly is at a disadvantage.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
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