But neither is 'superior' to the other. Agreed?Originally Posted by KrayZ33
But neither is 'superior' to the other. Agreed?
Between murder and manslaughter, or between rape and homicide?
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Between the mind of a murderer and the mind of a rapist, I think.
Peace.
If so, I'll need MFauli to clarrify if he still considers any form of "human killing human" to be equal morally.
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At this point I think he means both acts are intentional.
Peace.
Yes. And keep in mind that I'm against the death penalty and Punisher-style revenge is bs.
They are equally bad IMO, or maybe murderers are a bit worse, if only because rapists may rationalize their sin as something that leaves the victims alive afterwards.
Peace.
Just because I don't want to hear YOUR stupid take on something doesn't mean I don't care about it.
You're like the last person I would go to to get actual information on a topic.
Keep it civil guys.
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Gridman finale watched.
Have to say: this is a prime example of what I mean when I talked about the irrational difference between treatment of murderers and rapists.
Akane was a cruel, heartless murderer, killing thousands if not millions. But come the finale, the anime wants me to show empathy for this bitch. Fuck this shit, I didn't want Akane to be saved! She deserved to be defeated.
But raping a single girl? Irredeemable villain!!1
Sorry, didn't know in which thread to post.
Wasn't the entire thing her dream..?
Peace.
Presumably one where it wouldn't be a complete spoiler for a series...
I realize that the active forum community is pretty small these days, but this* would be one of, if not the worst, thread to post that in.
*= referring to the Anime Recommendations thread, from which this post was moved.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sat, 12-29-2018 at 01:22 PM. Reason: adding context
Sorry, Ryll. At least I put 'finale' at the start of my posting
No more than our reality might be a God's dream - so still pretty real for us.
i don't know which animes you're talking about, but here's my two bits:
Rape is worse than murder (in media), because we have a living victim.
And actually, I think that having a villain cut off / torture a person and letting that person live would make him less sympathetic than a villain that killed a person and chopped off the entire body. So mutilation is also worse than murder.
I'm also willing to go and say that necrophilia is probably more sympathetic than rape.
corpses (and murder victims in media) are things, objects. as audiences, we don't have any identification with them, so a character can kill millions in a show, but when we judge whether we like him or not, he is the only contestent, so we identify with.
If there's a living victim, then we have two sides, and we judge the evil character much more harshly, becuase the actions are weighted against their effect on a living character.
So how do you guys feel about this?
https://twitter.com/ActionZacku/stat...22861435310080
https://twitter.com/Silmerion/status...34030657339392
Peace.
1. The new anime looks interesting
2. The complaints look boring.
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To be honest I have no idea why the Japanese LN writers love slavery so much and see no problems in it. I've read some manga adaptations where previously free and mentally healthy women practically insist on becoming the MC's slaves. I'm not saying this to deny the fact slavery was an everyday thing in the past, but even back then people didn't strive to be slaves if they had a choice, and seemingly decent modern people suddenly isekaied to a world with slavery should have some reservations. But reading the manga based on LNs (or the LNs themselves) makes me think the Koreans aren't exaggerating their suffering under the Japanese rule before and during the WW2.
Trying to defend the bitch in Shield Hero is insane, though. The MC also has his reasons and is a reasonable person, all in all. But even for him slavery as a concept isn't seemingly distasteful. Perhaps it all boils down to the difference in valuing individuality and personal freedom in the East and West.
I think the vertical hierarchy in Japan makes servitude a much less obscure thing there than in most other countries.
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I find it strange that people are latching onto the rape accusation thing, as if it is more unbelievable than being transported to a different world. It is extremely rare for sure, but dimensional travel and magic weapons are rarer.
Is it because the villain is female? I wonder if they'd react the same if the accuser is male.
Peace.
the whole isekai + OP mary sue MC + harem genre creeps me out. that doesn't mean it should not exist or that any 'discourse' of it should start with "you are wrong for liking this show and a mysogenic asshole".
havne't read shield hero yet, but i don't really get what's the issue with goblin slayer, the creepy rapey stuff there is very tame as far as i recognize.
Edit;
having read the 50 chapters of the manga that I could find, I think the argument against the story are pretty stupid.
I don't know how it ends, or how the VN presents things, but the manga is pretty clear on 'rape is bad', 'you shouldn't have sex with loli's', 'bottling up your anger and feeling nothing but hatred hurts you' and even 'doing bad things prevents you from feeling good'. much better than most isekai shit stories i see. the art isn't exploitative towards the female characters, no male gaze, there aren't any scenes when the loli harem innocently crawls into bed with the 'oh so tame' hero. in terms of attitude towards sex, it ranks pretty high.
Also, if you subsitute the MC to being from a minority group, you can get a decent blunt metaphore about racism without changing any other beat of the story.
Last edited by Death BOO Z; Sun, 01-06-2019 at 04:55 PM. Reason: having read the story in question.
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