I'll try.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
I'll try.
Just hit episode 2. Glad it seems more to my liking now, with characters deliberately describing the goblin slayer as mentally broken and the back story explaining it; his actions seem more reasonable now. I'm going to attempt to coin the term "shoku-ichi" to describe my journey so far: It's a portmanteau of "Shokugeki no Souma" and "one" in Japanese. It refers to the practice of a first episode to, in a bid to shock and entice viewers (leaving an impression), focus on an... unfortunate facet of the style of the show (despair/gore porn here) that is not featured as much in the following episodes. the "edgy" horror shock is over now and we can focus on the actual story... whatever that is going to be. The point is, I loved Shokugeki after the first episode made my eyes roll straight out of my head, and I hope that will be the case here.
As for the adventurers scenes, it might be more accurate to describe them as mercenaries, and to hire oneself out for life and death combat requires a mental fortitude (or defect) that not everyone possesses, but the adventurers here all do. The receptionist also has a moral out in that what happened to main girl's squad isn't guaranteed. The end of episode montage showed that the porcelain crew she was worried about completed their mission safely. It is entirely possible that her party's dissection was an extreme example of unpreparedness. Occupational hazards aren't an occupational death warrant. Electricians are encouraged and trained in safety best practices, but at the end of the day, it is up to each individual to follow them and only complete work they have the skill to do safely. The only arbiter of that standard is 20 amps and an awkward phone call.
Episode 3
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I don't think I'll ever get bored of the jokes the series makes out of Goblin Slayer's autistic nature.
It's a pretty great and funny party we have in this story. Perhaps it's the only kind of party where Goblin Slayer wouldn't be out of place. Sure, he could work in any goblin eradication squad made of humans, but it's hard to see how he could really belong to it or be viewed as a real party member by the others. However, this one is so heterogeneous that he doesn't particularly stick out.
This is interesting, seeing how his party is clearly capable too, judging from what the Elf did.
This nest has wolves, I wonder how big it is this time.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 10-20-2018 at 02:54 PM.
Hahaha, boy that arrow managed to get carried in the wind then turn 90 degrees, but picked up enough momentum to blow off a goblin head before eyeballing the next.
That's some physics-defying shit right there.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I'm now convinced this is an isekai story, but they're kinda hiding it for a later twist. The dice rolling in the beginning was too ominous.
Episode itself was rather meh, too slow, too littme action. Looking forward to next week. Also elf rape pls 🐧
It was actually pretty funny hearing about the gods of fate and coincidence playing dice.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Magic infused arrow ?
I was amused too
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The whole story about the gods had such a great Pen&Paper feel to it too.
The 'evil' nature of it all seems very Pen&Paper too. I mean tragic backstories and all that. Rape as well. So basically this is a very dark themed D&D story with a guy who has all Nat20 rolls.
He just passes all his stat checks when he's pulling off a feat. No need for Nat20s.
Episode 4
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Elf ranger isn't exactly on the same wavelength with Goblin slayer. I guess Priestess isn't either, but she has acquired the valuable skill of being able to ignore reality.
As crafty use of a portal spell as one can imagine. Very polite as well to tell the dying, arrogant ogre that even goblins are more trouble than he was.
I love how this, unlike pretty much *every* other anime, truely has an Fantasy-RPG feel to it.
The ranger scouts, looks for traps, sneaks around, is in front of the group, skulks around, the group is in need of preparations and suffers damage easily when they are getting hit. They require certain build up, they have very unique abilities that aren't ridiciously strong, they use every tool they have.
This is by far the best version of fantasy-rpg in anime I've seen. And I'm not talking about the story here (which I like so far too).
Nice episode, good to see GS fight a non-goblin. I just wonder how many scrolls he's got, because it didn't seem as if he could have killed the ogre with his own skills.
That's exactly why I don't like GS that much so far: it feels like a game, very artificial. When I think of great fantasy-anime, I think of Record of Lodoss War. GS is incredibly far from that.
But this episode strengthened my belief that it's an undercover isekai anime. The whole 'the gods became bored of dice games and created many worlds' - yeah, that's what game developers do. Combined with the happy-go-lucky attitude despite all the murder and rape, it'd make a lot sense. And FUCK elf girl. So a REAL adventure isn't so depressing and scary? Guess what: THAT'S WHY ADVENTURES AREN'T REAL! An adventure by definition is the positive outcome of an involuntary dangerous sutuation. That's why you can't go on an adventure, because it either happens or does not. That's why people going on vacation and then telling everyone at home what an adventure their trip to some tourist region was, is cringey bs. And you, elf girl, are talking about 'happy adventure going'?! Yeah, this is either an isekai OR elf girl is a psychopath.
KrayZ33 did say "fantasy-RPG." I felt the same thing before reading it again and realizing what he was actually saying.
There are more classic "fantasy series" out there. But in this, they openly approach it as a tabletop RPG, and it feels very classic D&D. With the great kind of DM where you run the risk of losing a character in your party every single night, but just barely survive to limp your way back to base at the end of the session.
All too many anime series that act like RPGs (the ones that take themselves seriously), end up being more like MMOs or Phantasy Star, or some other video game. Goblin Slayer is very clearly tabletop.
The elf's line is phenomenal. Adventures are for children. But now she wants to take Goblin Slayer on less dangerous, exploration-type quest. The type of travelling that she's been used to. The type that the priestess and her group thought they were going on. It's a nice thought, in the same vein as the cattleman's daughter wanting to see Goblin Slayer come home to rest at the end of each day, like he's just going out to till the fields or something.
The priestess learned it. She's willing to risk her life every day to protect others.
The elf and cattleman's daughter still kind of need to learn the difference, but I think the daughter understands why he does what he does at least.
She is not a psychopath. Really.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Yeah, if we're calling GS literally a TT-RPG in anime-form, no disagreement from me.
Your sentences about elf girl make no sense, though. Or rather, the anime made no sense: these are silver-rank adventurers, right? They reaaaaally didn't give that impression. Slightly better than porcelain, mainly because of one special ability, but otherwise? They'd be dead without GS. They'd have missed the raped elf girl. Heck, they probably would have messed up fighting the then sleeping goblins.
Really un-impressive display of silver-ranks.
Hm, I don't know - they seemed to be superior to GS in terms of combat abilities, especially the elf and lizard shaman.
They were inferior to GS in knowledge about slaying goblins - which I find to be a good thing.
You could actually tell that each of them has their own expertise.
The Elf did a very good job in killing goblins from afar and managed to get the group to the big hall in silence.
The dwarf, a race that's living underground (in most RPGs), was able to navigate in these ruins and wouldn't have needed a map.
Goblin slayer is good at killing goblins.
Lizardman didn't really do anything "special", though his race and class, so I'd assume, don't really have any benefit in that enviroment. Though his use of summons was also very interesting. The best part about him was that he isn't reliant on a summon to do anything - he fights on his own and uses the summon as a support.
Maybe I'm somewhat biased because I'm playing "Das Schwarze Auge" (The Dark Eye), but so many things in this anime make sense.
No godly skilled character, everyone can die in mere seconds, every monster is a challenge and has to be approached correctly (even goblins, just like in the Tabletop, these beast are nasty and my group avoids fighting them whenever possible! They throw sand at you, poison you, bite and wound you and you never know how many of them are around hiding in bushes! I'd rather fight ogres!).
Magic is extremely limited and they use their abilities "freely" in a way that makes sense.
I don't know how to explain the last point properly... It's just that you think:
"Oh if I had tracking.. I could start a tracking roll here - who in our party has tracking 10+?"
And the guys who don't have tracking start to rely on the person/character who has and the "group leader" changes from GS to Elf (for example).
I certainly don't get the same feeling in other animes about games in an RPG setting.
Especially the MMO-types. They are always far away from what a real game plays like.
Log-Horizon for example started ~somewhat~ properly, and 3 episode later and especially during the raids at the end it became obvious that the author never did a raid in a computer game.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sun, 10-28-2018 at 03:17 AM.
It seems to me the higher ranks in the GS universe aren't any one man armies. They have merely survived and completed a number of quests. We already know most adventurers try to avoid goblin quests when they have a choice. The pay is poor, there's little fame and loot, and it can be more dangerous than the classification indicates. A goblin quest could be just half a dozen goblin grunts in a simple hole, or it could be 30 goblins with spell casting shamans and bigger goblin mofo guards in a complex, dangerous cave. It's not worth to risk your life for when the pay is a few coins. Thus, most adventurers wouldn't actually have lots of experience with goblins, even if they are silver or whatnot.
The Elf ranger obviously earned her silver ranking by encountering goblins very rarely. In fact she must have had quite a pleasant life as an adventurer. Perhaps she dutifully placed a point in her luck skill every level up, all her life. Like you said, she's surprisingly unused to the darker side of the world for being an experienced adventurer. She's not useless, though, with those super archery skills and such, so she most certainly didn't buy her silver rank.
Yeah if you approach and analyze it with a TT-RPG in mind it's all so much better. The God's are the players. Sometimes the Adventurer's win sometimes they don't. I mean GM's can do a TPK without meaning too. Those newbies just had bad rolls and bad prep. The Dwarf basically has Stonecunning Racial Trait ( am doing Pathfinder here not sure if it's also in D&D ).
So yeah that's pretty fun to do with you have that in mind.
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