That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime: Tensei shitara Slime datta Ken

[MFauli]

By that logic, literally the exact opposite is also true. Human could assassinate their leader and murder a bunch of their people at any time. Monsters are entirely justified in wiping out humans, because their kingdoms are ticking time bombs for when some "destroy all monsters" religion pops up in one.

The only difference is they're the underdog, and that somehow makes it okay for them to be the aggressor.

He should have cute little bat wings.

No, your premise is wrong. You're implying that monsters are the same as humans, which is not true. Before Rimuru appeared, goblins were wild savages. Orcs destroyed whole landscapes eating everything. Even the ogres (or whatever Hina and co are) used to be more mindless, aggressive monsters.

Humans in this world only knew monsters as dangerous, wild beasts and that justifies killing monsters. Racism in our real world was a big issue DESPITE white and black people being equally intelligent. In this world, humans were intelligent, monsters were not, or when they had a bit of intelligence, they were still overtly aggressive.

Now you're telling me that humans should just watch as a gathering of monsters grows stronger and stronger? Fuck that shit. Their attack was ultimately justified, only the way they went about it in the beginning wasnt, BUT: That was a plan that only a small group knew about. The vast majority of them, basically soldiers, still believed, and for good reason, that they were up against wild beasts.

Taking chances and hope that the monsters leader always remains a "good" monster? I cerntainly wouldn't have taken that chance without the knowledge I have as an outside-viewer.

[DarthEnderX]

Humans in this world only knew monsters as dangerous, wild beasts and that justifies killing monsters.

I mean, that's 100% false, as we met all these monsters as Rimuru met them and none of them were wild beasts. Even the goddamn WOLVES weren't just wild beasts.

Less civilized and more aggressive? Sure. But there's no telling that the reason they are like that isn't BECAUSE of how humans treat them. If humans keep regularly sweeping through and making sure they can't build up any kind of civilization, and pushing them into shittier lands where surviving is more of a struggle? Then it's not about their natures, it's about the circumstances of their lives.

And all of this hinges on the premise that monsters are inherently more powerful. But they aren't. Rimuru is OP. And he makes the monsters around him OP. But Rimuru ISN'T a monster. He's an Otherworlder. If Rimuru's powers had gone to a human Otherworlder, then they'd have the upper hand. It's a complete crapshoot and these ticking timebombs could appear in humans OR monsters.

"War is hinherently evil" surely is a philosophical stance one can have. I might even agree, dunno. But you must admit that a thing called "war crimes" exists, too. And what Rimuru did, wasn't just waging war - it was war crimes.

I can agree with that.

However, what you call their "ultimately justified attack"(starting an unprovoked war under false pretenses and killing a bunch of civilians) was ALSO a war crime. So it was a war crime committed against other war criminals. So....I don't feel too bad about it.

Taking chances and hope that the monsters leader always remains a "good" monster? I cerntainly wouldn't have taken that chance without the knowledge I have as an outside-viewer.

Again, the opposite is also 100% true. Monsters should always wipe out any human kingdom, because even if the current king is friendly, you never know when the next one will just suddenly want to kill monsters.

The idea that a people should be regularly wiped out because someone bad might appear amongst them is the most ridiculous and hypocritical thing I've ever heard.

(as the underdogs? DEX covered that one so I won't).

He might not have caught it, cause I was still adding to that post when he was already posting responses.

Also, while Rimuru was 'forced' into a vulnerable state, that potential tension is immediately removed by Ragna and demons' company.

Yeah, I was genuinely surprised. When he got all weak I was like "And here's where Clayman swoops in to do whatever it is he was planning!" but then it never happened.

Since there were 20k souls, and Rimuru only needed 10k, I kept expecting Clayman to come and steal the other 10k souls.

Lets put this whole arc behind us and move on to more relaxed fantasy civ interactions. That's where Slime's strengths are most apparent.

Agreed.