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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    THEY ALMOST KILLED HIM TWO EPISODES AGO!

    So Rimuru is just stupid then and ignores that? Because he doesn't care at all. So why should the viewer of this show. And it's not just him "pretending" that he doesn't care.

    Okay. Hope you didn't want me to read all that shit you typed. Cause I didn't.
    Then shut up with your nazi bullshit and nonsense and stop your strawmen. It's as easy as that

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    You had the chance to let it go. Instead you chose to double down and look stupid. Congrats.
    to be fair, it was only a secret as much as you could keep a massive and horrible undertaking like that a secret.
    Officially, they were laws that would, depending on which year you are looking at, result in the death penalty if you spoke out and against basically anything that would harm the reputation of the NSDAP or Germany in general.
    These laws exist because people obviously talked about stuff. In fact, it tells us how much trouble talking about caused and they didn't just exist for the sake of it, they were actually followed/carried out.
    The Nazis were very efficient in using speech to disguise what was actually going on. NS-code language and propaganda made it sound like they were "only" going to be deported to the east... or even "evacuated" actually at first.
    But in 1939++ when they load and unload the trailers right next to your house/city, and the crematorium burns day and night and the whole town smells like burning bodies, at least the cities right next to the camps obviously knew what was happening and thus people started talking about it. Or soldiers started writing about it (either in their diaries, or sometimes even in letters)
    And while there were protests (as much as you can protest during a dictatorship), not necessarily only out of compassion either, there were also those that would benefit from that and thus accept what has happened and in ~1941 the deportation and shootings were actually done in the open too.
    But, once more, this is so off topic and doesn't even remotely catch what has happened in that episode.
    Even if you want to paint that army in one colour, it still doesn't "justify" (-> justice) that massacre.

    But Rimiru obviously threw away his "holier than thou" attitude and that's what we got.

    Netflight summarized it well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    So Rimuru is just stupid then and ignores that? Because he doesn't care at all. So why should the viewer of this show. And it's not just him "pretending" that he doesn't care.



    Then shut up with your nazi bullshit and nonsense and stop your strawmen. It's as easy as that



    to be fair, it was only a secret as much as you could keep a massive and horrible undertaking like that a secret.
    Officially, they were laws that would, depending on which year you are looking at, result in the death penalty if you spoke out and against basically anything that would harm the reputation of the NSDAP or Germany in general.
    These laws exist because people obviously talked about stuff. In fact, it tells us how much trouble talking about caused and they didn't just exist for the sake of it, they were actually followed/carried out.
    The Nazis were very efficient in using speech to disguise what was actually going on. NS-code language and propaganda made it sound like they were "only" going to be deported to the east... or even "evacuated" actually at first.
    But in 1939 when they load and unload the trailers right next to your house/city, and the crematorium burns day and night and the whole town smells like burning bodies, at least the cities right next to the camps obviously knew what was happening and thus people started talking about it. Or soldiers started writing about it (either in their diaries, or sometimes even in letters)
    And while there were protests (as much as you can protest during a dictatorship), not necessarily only out of compassion either, there were also those that would benefit from that and thus accept what has happened and in ~1941 the deportation and shootings were actually done in the open too.
    But, once more, this is so off topic and doesn't even remotely catch what has happened in that episode.
    Even if you want to paint that army in one colour, it still doesn't "justify" (-> justice) that massacre.

    But Rimiru obviously threw away his "holier than thou" attitude and that's what we got.

    Netflight summarized it well.
    Yeah. What irks me is that basically the anime attempts to absolve Rimuru from moral dilemma by giving him the bs resurrection option. Oh how convenient, there are 20k soldiers and the resurrection requires 10k. Makes you wonder what Rimuru would have done if it had been only 6000 soldiers. Fly to Falmuth and kill 4000 civilians?

    It's just such a lame, and again convenient scenario that happens way too often in anime. I don't believe that teenagers, who are the main audience of this, are less annoyed by such contrievances. It's just bad writing.

    And then again: What would Rimuru do if there was no resurrection option? I'd bet good money that he'd try to negotiate then, after strengthening his town's defenses. And even when the soldiers attacked then, he'd choose to kill only a few in a way that scares the rest away. Because that's the Rimuru we've gotten to learn in all the time.

    Ah, I hate that resurrection bs :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Yeah. What irks me is that basically the anime attempts to absolve Rimuru from moral dilemma by giving him the bs resurrection option.
    The thing is, there is no moral dilemma to begin with. Of course morals are per person thing by definition, so for an ultra pacifist, who would even allow an enemy to kill their family without raising their fist, it might look like one, but that's no universal standard at all. Falmuth attacked unprovoked, performed the first strike targeting not only combatants but civilians as well, destroying civilian property to boot, and at the same time delivered an ultimatum stating they would be back with a larger army to finish the job. Furthermore, they used the anti-monster barrier, which made weaker monsters lethargic and weak, including less likely to recover if wounded. That would equal to using chemical warfare in our world, there's no other suitable comparison.

    The only moral problem would be if the enemy army tried to surrender before getting destroyed, but that surrendering was ignored and killing continued. However, Rimuru's current attack doesn't give them a chance to surrender, so no surrendering soldiers will be killed. That's perfectly normal for warfare. If a troop transport ship is sunk, it's possible everyone aboard is killed. There's nothing strange about it. If you view it as morally wrong, it just means you are a pacifist who doesn't accept the concept of war at all. That would be perfect in world where every country was ruled by such idealistic people. It's not our world, though, nor is it the world of this series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    So Rimuru is just stupid then and ignores that?
    He isn't. That's why he's not giving them a chance to retaliate or defend themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Then shut up with your nazi bullshit
    Never. You are "guy who doesn't think Nazis deserve to die" every time you try and highroad someone in an ethical debate from now on.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Yeah. What irks me is that basically the anime attempts to absolve Rimuru from moral dilemma by giving him the bs resurrection option. Oh how convenient, there are 20k soldiers and the resurrection requires 10k. Makes you wonder what Rimuru would have done if it had been only 6000 soldiers. Fly to Falmuth and kill 4000 civilians?
    The fact that there's twice as many as he needs means he ISN'T absolved though. If he kills the full 20k, then it's not just to revive his friends. It's because he's made the decision to utterly annihilate his attackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post

    Never. You are "guy who doesn't think Nazis deserve to die" every time you try and highroad someone in an ethical debate from now on.
    Uhm...okay, that's true.
    That doesn't mean I defend Nazis though, lol. Neither does it mean I'd forgive them or think they should be free to do what they did. So at least get your facts straight.

    You don't even realize how macabre the death penalty is.
    For example, the one who hanged the Nazis after the Nurnberg Trials was the same guy that decapitated 3000 partisans during the NS-regime. If you don't see the irony nor the hypocrisy in this I can't help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    For example, the one who hanged the Nazis after the Nurnberg Trials was the same guy that decapitated 3000 partisans during the NS-regime. If you don't see the irony nor the hypocrisy in this I can't help you.
    No, that's totally hypocritical. But that just means they both deserved to die. Not that neither of them did.

    People who willingly and cruelly participate in mass murder don't deserve to live.

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