His post doesn't refer to that. I accidentally made my post in the Spider thread, and Shinta commented on that, saying it's the wrong anime. I moved the posts here. My mistake, that one. Sorry about that.Originally Posted by MFauli
His post doesn't refer to that. I accidentally made my post in the Spider thread, and Shinta commented on that, saying it's the wrong anime. I moved the posts here. My mistake, that one. Sorry about that.
Ah, ok. Sorry then.
I prefer real deaths too.
More DEATHS!
Peace.
Unfortunately, too many writers share that line of thinking . :/
I find nothing more boring than deaths that only occur with huge fanfare and drama leading up to the death. That's why we have this dilemma where all tv series place the death of important characters at the season finale, making it wholly predictable and thus lame.
Guess what's still the most shocking, impactful death in fiction to me? Kuririn's first death, during the original Dragon Ball. The heroes just had finished the tournament successfully, everyone's happy and going to party with a feast. Goku remembers that he forgot some (his dragon ball iirc), but Kuririn's like 'im gonna get it for you, you go enjoy the food, goku!'. And then ... nothing. Suddenly, Goku got a bad feeling. He runs back to where his stuff ought to be, and there it is: Kuririn lying on the ground. Goku goes up to him, then with audible, visible shock says: 'Kuririn is dead ...'.
I still get sad goosebumps when i remember that scene. An off-screen death of a major character. And it was like a punch to the gut. And because the writing was so good, it also lead directly into the next major arc.
I wished more deaths in fiction would ve handled that way. The sensationalist, dramstic death is just theatre. The casual death on the side? That's the kind of death that feels real and threatening.
Nah, the deaths of Zabuza, Haku and Jiraiya for example were certainly not boring.
No one seemed to actually care that Shion is dead, not even the oni tribe.
It hasn't even been a full night after the attack from what I could tell.
She got way too little build up for her death to actually matter in the first place, at least for the viewer, although that is probably true for just about everyone in Rimuru's town.
Not sure if I'd be bothered by anyone dying. They are basically cultists and not much more.
So perhaps her death wasn't what was "bad", evereything else around it was.
Can't remember the last time I felt so little when a side character died, I'm being honest here... and she was probably my "favorite" (if you want to call it that) out of the bunch
Last edited by KrayZ33; Wed, 03-03-2021 at 01:59 PM.
- Benimaru trying to kill Myulan doesn't count? He is holding back because Youm and the other wolf dude were protecting her though.
-Shuuna has spent the last 24 hours trying to keep Gobta and Hakouoro from dying (did he even know she had died while he was unconscious?). Gobta didn't know his buddy was dead, so Shuuna certainly didn't tell them while she was caring for them.
- Who knows where the smith guy is though...
I think they cared, they just didn't show us anything.
It really doesn't in my opinion, Myulan was the de-facto enemy inside their city that caused this mess. She isn't even human and thus doesn't fall into the "don't hurt human" rule which was established. I didn't relate him wanting to get rid of her to Shion's death in any way whatsoever, although that is probably the case. The thing is, this show didn't show it as such.
Them saying he lost his cool when he regained it in less than half a second after hearing Rimuru's voice once really doesn't make me think he is "enraged" or bothered a whole lot in the first place.
We obviously *know* he is bothered, but it just wasn't portrayed well enough.
But Shuuna didn't seem to care much either.-Shuuna has spent the last 24 hours trying to keep Gobta and Hakouoro from dying (did he even know she had died while he was unconscious?). Gobta didn't know his buddy was dead, so Shuuna certainly didn't tell them while she was caring for them.
which is the problem.I think they cared, they just didn't show us anything.
As you mentioned, they might have messed up the timing and such. I think there are several factors that lead me to believe that this whole issue has been mostly a non issue.
on another note:
I honestly hope that Rimuru will act similar to Ains from Overlord and will lose all connection the the human mind at some point.
Because killing 20.000 out of revenge or to revive a 100 doesn't seem like a fair trade
It's difficult to explain this.
Morally speaking it doesn't seem right, even if I take into account that they are marching in to kill and destroy. They are part of the army, it's not like they have a choice.
Who knows, maybe they even have reason to believe that monsters are bad (because they actually are since they attack others. Hell, even the monster nation has patrols to clear out monsters.)
Not sure if this is the right thing to do from my point of view, at least with so little emotional attachment to it all.
I sure as heck at least hope he won't act all holy about this.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Thu, 03-04-2021 at 05:11 AM.
You can call it extreme plot convenience that there just happens to be a human enemy army marching in to invade when Rimuru needs thousands of human sacrifices. Of course it's all related since the deaths Rimuru needs to deal with were caused by the preliminary strike by that human side, but nonetheless the whole moral side is pretty much reduced to zero. You are doing nothing wrong if you defeat an invading enemy army. In fact, you are doing things wrong if you don't defeat it, from a leadership point of view. Rimuru is responsible for the nation and people he's overseeing, so it's his moral obligation to defend them.
Imagine the same situation if there was no invading army and Rimuru would need to select a random town in a human country to annihilate, for the sake of becoming a demon lord. That would make him like Ains from Overlord.
As Ryll said, bad things happening to Shion were telegraphed last episode.
I didn't expect her to die permemently in this series at all when we saw her.
And Rimuru is just going to give all those 20k soldiers an artificial heart with Myulan's help with the magical logistics side. I was hoping he'd kill them all. What'd be more interesting is what he'd do had Myulan NOT been resurrected.. I suspect he'd go ahead with the plan to kill them all, but now we'll never see him do it.
I wonder if Milim remembers all that fairy tail stuff. Also, she might be attacking the other kingdom because she thinks they're connected to her tragedy or something.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I don't see how that's going to help him. In order to become a Demon Lord, he has to consume 10k human souls. And they've established that, without a soul, you're just a mindless monster.
"Great Sage, how can I use 10k human souls to become a Demon Lord and then return their souls so that they don't die"
"Calculating, it is possible. Chances are 1%."
And we all know what that 1% means.
Or maybe he will just kill 10k people?
Peace.
And revive them as well.
Well, if he can just annihilate the army like it was suggested in the latest episode, it sure as hell makes you think whether or not he could simply stop the army without killing (all of) them.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Thu, 03-04-2021 at 07:02 AM.
Bleh, that could totally happen...
Milim story was nice. I didn't remember it at all. And now we can connect the dots beetween Milim and Rimuru: Verdora.
99.9% chance Verdora is Milim's little dragon.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Or her dad.
... I said that.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
An artificial heart is no soul.
Rimuru clones many things. Might as well add Souls to the list.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
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