comp parts

[.EcHo.]

im wondering, since i had came to the end of the world, that the comp im using is a peice of shit
650 mghz
128+128+128= how much ram i have [ too lazy to add]
geforce.
40 gig hd
9 gig hd, lol
50x cd

blegh, i want to know, how much it cost to build a comp ..a decent one, like
2.20 ghz, stick of 512, 80 gigs..geforce 19 flat

or just name the price and specs of your comp

[.EcHo.]

ahhh, nice specs
man, i need new comp, anyone willing to doate money?, lol

[DB_Hunter]

Here's what I'm using right now:

Pentium 3 500MHz CPU
128MB SDRAM (Failed to do an upgrade, being stupid bought wrong clock speed RAM)
12.6GB Original Hard Disk
80 GB Hard disk I slapped on
20x10x40 CD-RW I ripped out of my brother's computer
DVD Drive I ripped out of my brother's computer
Originally had 32MB TNT2 nVIDIA Graphics Card, replaced with 128MB Radeon 9200 Series ATI card
10/100 Base-T Ethernet Card
56k voice/fax data modem (Use ADSL via NIC though)


As you can see it's probably the crappiest machine here .

EDIT: Oh yeah, bought it for £200 in November 2000. Used to be in a company before.

[paran0id]

AMD Athlon XP2000+
MSI SIS745 Motherboard
Intel Pro+ 10/100Mb network card
Geforce 2 64MB
80GB HD
DVD-recorder

Price: 1200-1300:-

[mizu shinobi]

lol well mine was 600 but it had only 700mhz and 20 gig hd and 512 mb ddr ram but it got better after i bought more ram got a faster cpu and got a gforce 4 ti 4200 hehehe

[Xollence]

You can create an awesome machine with like 1200.

[sangai]

heres mine

i just bought the board so its really new and takes up to a 3.2ghz amd atholon processor, its an albatron i think i was gonna buy a gigabyte board but i got this one first
amd atholon 2100+ overclocking up to higher speed ima buy the 3 ghz soon
nvidia fx5200 video card 128 mb of ram
1gig of pc 2100 memory kingston i may upgrade again soon to the 3200 at 2 gigs very expensive
80 gig hardrive going up to 300 gigs after christmas
52x writer
52x reader
getting a dvd reader soon
a 15" flat screen
silver case with led lighting and all that cool light stuff
custom built by me and a friend for i think the price to date would be a around
800-900 bucks no including tax

and i still got extra stuff lying around another computer that i dont use at the moment

[Evangelion01]

well i got my laptop for 900
1.3GH athalon
256 mb ram (1 dim slot free)
20gb hard drive
64mb ATI graphics card
DVD Rom
15' (monitor/laptop size)
and really nice speakers, darn big. a compaq, not the best but if it breaks i can repair/replace anything.

[Elite Hentai]

I have a crappy comp that's crashing all the time when I'm playing games (100%), videos (90%) or just moving my mouse (5%)

VIA Apollo 133 pro chipset
Intel P3 800MHz 133MHz fsb
2x 128 MB SDR-SDRAM
Nvidia Geforce 2 Ti
Slow 19 GB harddrive
8x CD-RW
8x DVD ROM
Onboard sound
17 CRT monitor
Standard speakers

But my mommy is ordered this 1337 computer

(Dell Dimension 8300)

Intel i875 P
Intel P4 2.8 GHz 800MHz fsb
2x 512 MB DDR400 SDRAM
Ati Radeon 9800 pro
120 GB Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA V
NEC DVD+RW ND-1100A (4X write; 2.4X rewrite)
48x CD-ROM
Creative Labs Audigy 2
19" CRT
Altec Lansing ADA995 (5.1 & THX Certified)

My wet dream machine

[DDBen]

ok for starters there is no 3.2 ghz Athalon there is a 3200+ which is in fact

processor AMD Athalon XP 3200+
speeds 2.167 ghz
bus Speed 333Mhz
built in level 1 cache 128 kb
built in level 2 cache 512 kb advanced transfer

you can get the 64-bit processor but thats about a grand more.

second a 19 inch LCD is worthless if you plan to do gaming it can not keep up with a high end videocard the refresh rates are simply to slow. They are only worth it if you don't have the space but as your talking about $350-500 extra its usually just not worth it.

If you would like to buy the parts and build it yourself www.newegg.com has by far the best prices, cheapest shipping and best service. On often free shipping you can expect your stuff within 4 days I ordered some new speakers yesterday by the time I got up they had been on there way for a day.

If you want high end parts and want it premade go with alienware at www.alienware.com They simply have the best prices on systems with the high end parts the others arn't even close if they are the parts there using are MUCH lower quality.

I've listed what I'm running before though I just got some 600 watt 6.1 channel speakers so I won't bother doing that again.

[brightdark]

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DDBen @ Dec 17 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ok for starters there is no 3.2 ghz Athalon there is a 3200+ which is in fact

processor AMD Athalon XP 3200+
speeds 2.167 ghz
bus Speed 333Mhz
built in level 1 cache 128 kb
built in level 2 cache 512 kb advanced transfer
</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
that is not quite right
you are descriping the xp 3000+

the 3200+ runs at 2200mhz with 400fsb not 333

[DDBen]

ack seems I was didn&#39;t click over on the site to the correct one reguardless neither is a 3.2ghz

[brightdark]

the athlon64 3000+ are actually quite cheap at this moment&#33;
they just came to my place this week 64bit ownage&#33;
kicking the living essence out of pentium4 3200mhz

it outperforms the pentium4 3200mhz
it is 10% cheaper than pentium4 3000mhz
amd rocks

[MemnochTheCaT]

Here&#39;s a really good system you can build from newegg.com for &#036;407. Add your choice of monitor/kb/mouse/speakers ..

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (512K L2, easy to o/c to 3200+)
Biostar Nforce2 IGP Mainboard (Onboard GF4MX, has AGP slot if you are a hardcore gamer needing something newer)
512MB PC3200 400Mhz DDR Memory (Run at 333 for 2500 or 400 for 3200)
120GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Samsung 52X CDRW + 16X DVD-Rom Combo Drive
1.44MB Floppy Drive
6-Channel Sound On-Board
6 USB 1.1/2.0 Ports
10/100 Ethernet Onboard
Mid-Tower ATX Case w/350 Watt Power Supply

Nice and fast for just over &#036;400, takes about 30 minutes to build, 30 minutes to load software on. I build/repair/upgrade PCs for my job, and this is the best budget power system you can get.

[DDBen]

64-bit processing is overall useless at this time as you would be hard pressed to find any program you plan to use regularly that cares in the slightest so why spend the extra cash for a useless feature for now. Also note you need a differn&#39;t kind of ram which is also more expensive to be able to run properly.

[brightdark]

remember if you plan on going 64bit(my recomendation)

avoid the athlon64 FX (for now)

because the athlon64 FX uses 940 socket motherboard at this moment
and these are not using your normal ddr ram...so don&#39;t bother

the socket 940 motherboards will be replaced by socket 939 later on
and when that happens the socket 940 will be obsolete

go with either athlon64 3200+
or athlon64 3000+ &lt;-good price/performance ratio
these use socket 754

as for motherboard(socket 754)
avoid the nvidia nforce 3 chip(they suck)
via k8t800 chip has a superior hypertransport connection that allows faster cpu performance

or simply just wait for the socket 939 version of the athlon64 FX
they will come with integrated dual channel ramcontroller &lt;-(that which made nforce2 super)







@DDBen
the 64bit cpu at this moment are superior to the 32bit cpus even in 32bit program&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[MemnochTheCaT]

True, the high-end chips right now make NO sense at all, unless money means nothing to you.

Athlon XP 2500+ &#036;90
Athlon 64 3200+ &#036;259

Ouch&#33; For the price of the 64/3200, I can get a cpu/mobo/512mb, and still have &#036; left over. Not only that, but after clocking the FSB on the 2500 up to 200, you get 3200+ performance (granted, the 64/3200 is still faster).

Let&#39;s look at Intel

Celeron 2.4 &#036;69
P4 2.4C &#036;159
P4 3.2C &#036;370

Double ouch&#33; The Celeron is pretty slow, but good enough for most users. The 2.4C is easy to clock up to 3.2Ghz, and that 3.2Ghz price is insane.

My advice : buy something like the XP2500 or P4 2.4C and use all the &#036;&#036; you saved to get bigger HDD, a DVDRW, more Ram, whatever. Bleeding-edge cpus don&#39;t give you much for your &#036;&#036; compared to other components. A 2Ghz with 1GB of ram and a fast hard drive will run circles around a 3.2Ghz setup with 512MB and a 5400Rpm drive, for example.

EDIT : Avoid Socket 754 like the plague, it has a very limited upgrade path and is over-priced. The single-channel memory bus is already being pushed to it&#39;s limits by the 64/3200+, so even if faster socket 754 processors are released, they will not show much improvement. If you are going AMD64, wait for socket 939, or go ahead and get Socket 940 + Opteron 1xx series. Socket 754 is as dumb as Socket 423 was for P4, a limited and short-lived waste of money and time.

[Kurenai]

i think i almost have the most crappiest machine here... but... it&#39;s stable like hell.
PIII 700MHz
300something memory
a 40 and a 20 gig HDD
geforce 2 mx 400
old soundcard
asus cd player and cd rewrigter

I tried to use maya, 3ds Max (both are heavy 3d programs) and photoshop and it got really slow but it didn&#39;t crash..... i&#39;m so proud of my own homemade comp

[brightdark]

just because they are 64bit does not mean that they are bad in 32 bit applications

as of right now the 64bit 3000+ is faster than any pentium on the market(exept for the pentium3.2ghz EE version but that is by far the most expensive one anyway)
the 64bit 3200+ kills all of the regular pentium4
the athlon64 FX are untouchable and directly comparable to pentium3.2ghz EE

and that is in 32 bit programs&#33;




</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Let&#39;s look at Intel

Celeron 2.4 &#036;69
P4 2.4C &#036;159
P4 3.2C &#036;370

Double ouch&#33; The Celeron is pretty slow, but good enough for most users. The 2.4C is easy to clock up to 3.2Ghz, and that 3.2Ghz price is insane. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
AVOID celeron&#33;&#33;
that is the single most important rule when it comes to cpus

amd Duron cpus are far superior to them celerons
in all kinds of aplications
and they are cheaper too
(use nforce 2 motherboards for duron/athlon xp)





</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>EDIT : Avoid Socket 754 like the plague, it has a very limited upgrade path and is over-priced. The single-channel memory bus is already being pushed to it&#39;s limits by the 64/3200+, so even if faster socket 754 processors are released, they will not show much improvement. If you are going AMD64, wait for socket 939, or go ahead and get Socket 940 + Opteron 1xx series. Socket 754 is as dumb as Socket 423 was for P4, a limited and short-lived waste of money and time. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
socket 754 is not that bad
at least you can use normal ddr ram with it
the socket 940 is worse and will become obsolete (for the desktop market) before 754 does



socket 754 sure is not overpriced when compared to intel&#33;
the athlon64 3000+ has the best price/performance ration in the highend

[MemnochTheCaT]

Celeron is fine if you&#39;re not into gaming/encoding/rendering. Basically it comes down to what the user actually needs. I would recommend Athlon XP in any situation over the Celeron, but sometimes a customer insists on Intel. All you can do is tell them the fact is that a Celeron 2.4Ghz is about the same as a 1500+ AMD in terms of real-world performance. A majority of users use their PCs for Web/Email/Music/Video/Small Office apps, all of which run fine with 1Ghz+ and a decent amount of ram. It&#39;s when the user wants to run apps that require more power (games/content creation) that it gets trickier to find an appropriate solution.

Socket 940 will have a respectable lifespan, certainly longer than that of Socket 754. Also, registered DDR is now only a fraction over the cost of ordinary DDR, at least for decent brands like Corsair. AMD has just released the Opteron x48 models, and it looks like there will be ramping on Socket 940 through 2.8ghz. This offers an upgrade path of actual 64-bit processors (and they are very reasonably priced compared to other 64-Bit processors. Socket 754 is going to be relegated to low-end 32-Bit solutions, and Socket 940 will remain as a workstation/server solution. Obviously the best choice for someone investing in 64-Bit would be Socket 939, but we have to wait a few more weeks for that option. Socket 940 is much better than socket 754, AMD made a huge blunder by releasing a single-channel interface for a high-end core.

As far as socket 754 being overpriced.. YES IT IS&#33; You&#39;re using Intel&#39;s high-end pricing as an excuse, when in reality it&#39;s just the same. It&#39;s just as bad buying a P4 3.2Ghz at &#036;320 as it is to spend &#036;250+ on a 64/3200. Price/performance? The &#036;90 2500+ with a decent heatsink/fan will hit 2.2Ghz(3200+) on a Nforce2 mobo. Combine with better components with the &#036;160-&#036;230 you just saved, and you are a big winner. Socket 462 is basically dead in upgrade path, but so is Socket 754 except for value parts. Socket 478 for Intel has a few things coming, but nothing that will last as long as the Socket 939/940, so it doesn&#39;t make sense to buy high-end P4 at this time. Although the best high-end solution is 2.4/2.6C overclocked to 3.4+Ghz. Very fast and much cheaper than AMD64. Still not as good a deal as 2500+ though.

Unless you are really bleeding &#036;&#036;&#036;, stick with Barton XPs + Nforce2 until Socket 939 matures next spring. If you have to have high-end RIGHT NOW, get Socket 940+Opteron/FX. If you want a middle-ground solution, look at the low-end 800FSB P4s.