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    Won't be very shocking though if you catch my drift.

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    I liked that Ikta outright announces that his foe is his polar opposite, acknowledging the cliché meta aspect of it.

    When this arc is over he can sleep with Megumin Nana again and all will be well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I liked that Ikta outright announces that his foe is his polar opposite, acknowledging the cliché meta aspect of it.

    When this arc is over he can sleep with Megumin Nana again and all will be well.
    I feel ashamed. I didn't even recognize her voice lol. Heck she was even Kaon in Comet Lucifer. Yet I recognized her voice in Re Zero, wtf. I'm so bad.

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    Episode 11 - HS


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    Not overly much to say about this episode, apart from it sucking real hard to fight a war with a significant number deficiency compared to the opponent. But at least they are all turning into veterans from greenhorns.

    I wonder if Yatori would really do it if the order didn't seem 110% legit and meaningful. Although that being said, she might not find it so easy anyway considering Ikta seems like a man who would disappear very successfully if he wanted to.

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    She said she would, so she would. Yatori is not the type to put on airs or act tsundere. She is tsun to the core. However, her affection for Ikta would require her to destroy herself first. That was such an amazing reply, and so was Ikta's. I understand why the exchange brought tears to Boobies eyes.

    I hope Suya dies in the next episode. I don't really hate her. I just want her gone so we can move on from the repeating trope of her complaining about Ikta. At least Nana has waki going for her.

    I'm expecting to see Nana and her Sinack crew redeem themselves in the coming fight.

    One thing that made no sense though is how the secretary girl protected the enemy strategist from return fire. She herself admitted to not knowing about the enemy having air rifles seconds after she protected him. That doesn't add up. Why would she think he was in danger if he was clearly out of range of normal air guns?

    And it's funny how air "guns" and rifles look practically the same in this story but behave so differently lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    One thing that made no sense though is how the secretary girl protected the enemy strategist from return fire. She herself admitted to not knowing about the enemy having air rifles seconds after she protected him. That doesn't add up. Why would she think he was in danger if he was clearly out of range of normal air guns?
    You don't have seconds in such a situation. Perhaps the secretary's main role is to keep the strategist alive. She might have seen such a glimpse of the enemy that it for one reason or another unsettled her and instinctively thought they were standing too close to the battle, without analysing at that moment whether the enemy in fact has any way to reach them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    She said she would, so she would. Yatori is not the type to put on airs or act tsundere. She is tsun to the core. However, her affection for Ikta would require her to destroy herself first. That was such an amazing reply, and so was Ikta's. I understand why the exchange brought tears to Boobies eyes.

    I hope Suya dies in the next episode. I don't really hate her. I just want her gone so we can move on from the repeating trope of her complaining about Ikta. At least Nana has waki going for her.

    I'm expecting to see Nana and her Sinack crew redeem themselves in the coming fight.

    One thing that made no sense though is how the secretary girl protected the enemy strategist from return fire. She herself admitted to not knowing about the enemy having air rifles seconds after she protected him. That doesn't add up. Why would she think he was in danger if he was clearly out of range of normal air guns?

    And it's funny how air "guns" and rifles look practically the same in this story but behave so differently lol.
    The difference beetween sniper rifle and conventionnal rifle really is those helix carvings in the barrel.
    The bullet's rotation along its trajectory axis is an incredible technical step that tremendously improves precision.
    D'Artagnan died because of that improvement that is already almost unnoticeable 3 meters away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    The difference beetween sniper rifle and conventionnal rifle really is those helix carvings in the barrel.
    The bullet's rotation along its trajectory axis is an incredible technical step that tremendously improves precision.
    You can't really say that considering the English name for the weapon rifle comes from that very rifling in the barrel. So, by definition, a rifle should have a rifled barrel. Muskets and other smoothbores were the predecessors. These days rifling was only removed from some specific high calibre guns for the sake of special ammunition (mainly in MBTs).

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    So the main difference between the gun and rifle versions are the barrel grooves? That makes sense. I just wish they mentioned that. Not everyone is a military geek.
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    My lack of knowledge in english didn't make the link beetween rifle and groove... And I do not have a passion for weapons either.
    But that specific technical aspect did get my attention. And the D'Artagnan trivia was linked thanks to a lecture I was attenting to for work.
    But yes, that detail greatly improves precision and distance a bit thanks to a better aero position of the bullet on the trajectory, for same mass/size of bullet/powder. I guess the need for better manufacturing probably also had a role for distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    So the main difference between the gun and rifle versions are the barrel grooves? That makes sense. I just wish they mentioned that. Not everyone is a military geek.
    They did mention it. In episode 8. 15:14.

    You have to interpret by the line that the regular air "rifles" are smoothbore. Prior to that line, you'd have no idea.

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    They did. I stand corrected.
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    Episode 12 - HS



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    I guess we are getting something in the way of explanations for the weird science emphasis and also why the society seems developed in one way but backwards in another. It could be all related to the dominant religion, which is arbitrarily forbidding things (never would have expected that from a religion, haha). However, as expected that strict dominance is breaking. No matter what the priests preach, countries can't ignore crucial advances in warfare if the neighbours aren't ignoring them as well. When it then happens in the military technology (or ideology), it will leak elsewhere.

    Other than that, quite pleasant warring in this episode. Both sides managed to surprise the other. I wonder why the invader doesn't really want to press forward. They have lost all of the surprise already. It seems more like their foreign expert strategist is more interested in testing his tactics and new technological innovations than progress the offensive. Kind of like the Germans went to Spain to test their weapons pre-WW2.

    Another scene between Ikta and Yatori deepening their relationship. It's getting more and more interesting. I really wonder if he ever tried to hit on her or if she's the only woman he would never approach frivolously. Do they both understand they will never be a couple or is the opposite?

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    Yatori is special to Ikta and vice versa. Sleeping with her trivializes that, and thus it won't happen. Sex isn't the only identifier for closeness and mutual value.

    Ikta failed this episode. The moment they said that items were being carried over, I knew they were cannons, because, what else would they be??? He DOHd this time. This is especially blame-worthy because he knew of the tech beforehand. I hope he redeems himself in the final episode.
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    I wouldn't be so hard on Ikta. While he knew they exist theoretically, they had never been used in any war before. It's like the terrorists automatically thinking the USA brought a railgun or laser cannons to the field when they spied some big machine in the distance. Furthermore, apparently the theocracy hates all technological advances (or maybe everything powered by the spirits), so despite seeing the blimp earlier, his instincts still worked against him.

    It proves nothing you, and I, immediately realised they must be cannons.

    And I wasn't thinking about simply sex, rather a marriage and a family. However, the fact Yatori thinks nothing of Ikta's numerous dalliances certainly speaks against it. But why would Ikta then promise to stay with Yatori? That makes no sense. When a man or woman marries someone, they primarely will stay with that person and the forthcoming children. Is Ikta basically saying that neither of them will ever get married and instead they will just hang around as buddies for no particular reason for all eternity? I'd imagine the Igsem family would want heirs from Yatori. It's a centuries old noble family or something. They wouldn't want it to end. Is Yatori going to tell her future husband that by marrying her, he will also marry this lazy dude Ikta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    It proves nothing you, and I, immediately realised they must be cannons.
    Yes it does. This story revolves around Ikta surprising everyone, including the audience, with his tactics and sage-like prediction abilities. When the audience one-ups him, the entertainment value drops. Think The Mentalist.

    As you said, Ikta already saw the enemy using "forbidden" balloons. Obviously, they aren't gonna suddenly shy away from using forbidden tech that could turn the tide of battle. His mistake would be more understandable without that. But alas.

    Ikta and Yatori are best friends without benefits. Getting married to some dude out of obligation won't change that. Ikta will obviously never marry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Ikta will obviously never marry.
    Why is that obvious? He seems like a decent man despite his eccentricity.

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    Because he wants to, and actually can, sleep around. Marriage is full of responsibilities he would never want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Because he wants to, and actually can, sleep around. Marriage is full of responsibilities he would never want.
    He's been doing a remarkably thorough job of looking after people he's responsible for, during these episodes, for a man who, according to your analysis, would hit the road after he has knocked up a woman, leaving the poor new mother to deal with the social stigma of a bastard child and the burden of proving for a child alone.

    I think not. He's scienfically lazy and wants to live an easy life, but he's a man enough to bear the consequences of his actions and see things through. There's no way Yatori would remain his friend otherwise.

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    Ever heard of contraception? I'm pretty sure the scientific Ikta, who by the way slept with a married woman (so much for being responsible), is smart enough not to sow his seed all over the place.

    Ikta is only taking responsibility for the army because he has no other choice. Marriage is generally something you do by choice.
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