Amaama to Inazuma

[shinta|hikari]

They actually do. Food burns really fast in hot oil. Turns really dark in seconds.

If you start with really hot oil and drop the food in already, there's very little you can do to fix it. Removing the pan from the heat won't cool the oil fast enough, so the food will still burn. Taking the food out is only an option for some things. Panko breaded dishes don't take well to doing that. The grease gets absorbed too much while you're waiting for your pan to cool.

No matter how many times they flipped that donut, it was gonna burn anyway. If they take it out before that happens, the inside will be raw. The grease on the half cooked donut will soak in while waiting for the oil to cool if they wanna do a retake, basically resulting in a greasy double fried donut. You double fry french fries and korean fried chicken wings, not donuts lol.

[Ryllharu]

BUT: If we´re now openly talking about the two of them maybe becoming a couple, you gotta give it to me that it WAS/is weird indeed!!1 Dunno who said it, but: Would you still be okay with a teacher meeting in private with your daughter, if you knew he´s romantically interested in her? Huh? Huh?! :P

No, we don't have to give you anything. He didn't even know she was his student until he was already there. She invited them. She invited a father and his daughter. That he's her teacher is incidental, they "met" at the park.

BTW, tempura, again, is very hard to under cook on the inside, especially if you use seafood and thinly sliced veggies (as you should). Bone in fried chicken is probably one of the harder ones to cook right.

Speak for yourself. Southern Fried Chicken has exactly four steps: Bread. Put in cast-iron skillet. Don't turn over until color changes. Let drain on a rack.

You don't have to worry about the temp of the batter, the oil doesn't have to be nuclear hot, and there's really no technique to it.

[shinta|hikari]

You don't have to worry about the temp of the batter, the oil doesn't have to be nuclear hot, and there's really no technique to it.

I meant that from the perspective of an absolute beginner. First, they need to know that the oil mustn't be too hot, then they need to know to use a cast iron skillet to sustain the oil temperature (not non stick ones). Those are "techniques" that beginners wouldn't know at all. Also, I meant that comment specifically about under cooking the inside while burning the outside.

[MFauli]

No, we don't have to give you anything. He didn't even know she was his student until he was already there. She invited them. She invited a father and his daughter. That he's her teacher is incidental, they "met" at the park.

He knew that she was a young girl, a student, his or anyone´s. If a 15 year old girl invites you to come home with her, would you? (no reply from shinta pls, lol)

And I agree with Ryll, burning something with oil is hard. Especially with small stuff like doughnuts. Heat the oil, check with a wooden toll if it starts blubbering when you put it in, then throw in whatever you want to fry. Watch its color. Done. If it´s chicken with bone (called "Backhendl" here in Bavaria), you turn it around as many times as needed. It swims on the surface, so one side will not be in contact with the oil.

Sure, a TOTAL beginner who cannot even name the tools and ingredients might have some trouble. But I honestly cannot imagine somebody not knowing how to fry some meat or pancakes or whatever. That´s basic survival stuff.

[shinta|hikari]

Many people are like that lol. Three of my friends can't cook at all. They don't even understand that you need to heat the oil first before dropping stuff in.

[MFauli]

Many people are like that lol. Three of my friends can't cook at all. They don't even understand that you need to heat the oil first before dropping stuff in.

You don´t need to. Depends on the food. When I make fishsticks, I put in the oild, put in fishsticks, turn on the stove. Makes no difference. Of course, you wouldn´t do it with a steak, omg.

[shinta|hikari]

What. The fish sticks would soak up all the oil and become greasy if you put it in cold oil. If you are pan frying them, they may even stick, unless you used a good non-stick pan. Cold oil french fries are another story.

[MFauli]

So you´ve never actually tried putting in fishsticks before the oil is hot, I assume? Less following recipes, more experimenting, shinta. cooking is fun.

[shinta|hikari]

But that's basic cooking know how. When you do that, the fish sticks boil in the oil, not fry. Maybe you just can't taste the difference. That might also explain how you can't imagine people enjoying food as much as the people in this show. And that also might explain why you even consider frying fish sticks something to brag about...

[Kraco]

He knew that she was a young girl, a student, his or anyone´s. If a 15 year old girl invites you to come home with her, would you? (no reply from shinta pls, lol)

They were both invited to her mother's restaurant initially to eat something good. Afterwards they were, again, invited to the restaurant where the mother was supposed to be present as well. As far as I'm concerned, he's doing everything very properly. If Kotori tried to hit on him and he wouldn't cut the meetings until she has graduated, then we could start to discuss about his morals.

[Ryllharu]

I meant that from the perspective of an absolute beginner. First, they need to know that the oil mustn't be too hot, then they need to know to use a cast iron skillet to sustain the oil temperature (not non stick ones). Those are "techniques" that beginners wouldn't know at all. Also, I meant that comment specifically about under cooking the inside while burning the outside.

You misread what I wrote. "oil doesn't have to be nuclear hot" = the oil doesn't have to be hot as fuck like with tempura (260C+). You have to know that tempura is done on high heat, with specific oils that don't catch on fire at 250C, because, surprise, a lot of them do.

Many oils you use with fried chicken have a much lower flash point, and it isn't nearly as heat dependent. You can fry chicken on a lower temp too. It works fine for beginners.

Southern fried chicken. You're doing it in a cast iron skillet. That's the only skillet you fry in. That might be the only fry pan you have. This is like going to SE Asia, and asking someone what they'd stir fry in. It's gonna be a wok, because that's all they have.

[shinta|hikari]

You misread what I wrote. I meant that beginners often burn the skin/breading of fried chicken or take them out nicely browned outside but with raw meat, especially near the bone because the oil is too hot. This part had nothing to do with tempura.

A cast iron skillet is great for keeping heat constant, which is ideal when frying. Too low, you get greasier chicken, too high, you burn stuff. Regardless of your financial status or tool availability, a cast iron skillet is a great tool for this purpose. This is especially true for fried chicken because dropping in large pieces, even if you avoid overcrowding the pan, still decreases the temperature of the oil a lot.

I didn't say that tempura was easier to make than fried chicken. I said it's harder to make under cooked tempura than under cooked bone in fried chicken. By under cooked, I mean the outside is cooked well, but the inside is still raw.

I said that because Mfauli seems to think it's impossible to burn things in oil, which is kinda ridiculous because most things in the kitchen burn in exactly that, especially for people who don't even know how to hold a knife right.

[MFauli]

Everybody misreading everybody. Yay!

Also Kraco basically giving me permission to meet with his hypothetical underage daughter, nice.

[shinta|hikari]

You sick bastard. Stay away from real kids.

[Kraco]

Everybody misreading everybody. Yay!

Also Kraco basically giving me permission to meet with his hypothetical underage daughter, nice.

The teacher in this show has shown zilch interest in dating a student. Tsumugi is the only person he thinks about. You, however, have stated in this very thread you'd like to get together with an underage person. That's why I said earlier the mother shouldn't have missed the meeting. She ought to have checked out personally the man her daughter intends to teach isn't some slavering beast.

[shinta|hikari]

Before people start throwing torches at each other, I'd like to say my previous post about Mfauli being a sick bastard was just a joke.

[MFauli]

I assume it was, shinta, no worries.

The teacher in this show has shown zilch interest in dating a student. Tsumugi is the only person he thinks about. You, however, have stated in this very thread you'd like to get together with an underage person. That's why I said earlier the mother shouldn't have missed the meeting. She ought to have checked out personally the man her daughter intends to teach isn't some slavering beast.

You on the other hand need to lighten up :P
I have no interest in underage girls, 16 is fine with me ;D
Anyway, the point is, that meeting with the mother never happened. Also, you´d be an idiot if you only judged a guy after his outter appearance in terms of "risk" for your daughter. I have serious doubts that you´d be as ok with this situation as you are with it in anime.

[shinta|hikari]

Wait, is the chef mother widowed? I don't remember if they mentioned it in the story. Wouldn't it be absolutely epic of Kotori gets NTRd by her own mother when she finally meets Kouhei!?

[Ryllharu]

I thought they were divorced. They've said it, but it wasn't really important. What mattered was Kotori has no one at home in the evenings or weekends, but her mother is still there to provide her recipes that our trio can read without struggling too much.

I feel like Kouhei would be quite a bit more wary of a milf in cosplay putting the moves on him, as opposed to slowly getting seduced by Kotori as she continues to insert herself into their family unit.

[shinta|hikari]

What if her seduction works against her favor, locking her down in the friend daughter zone?