There are many kinds of reputations and images a person can have among their peers. A pervert is one I wouldn't desire to be, and I think the same goes for many characters in this show. Even a mad dog like Bakugo is better; people might be wary or scared of him, but at least they don't look down on him.Originally Posted by MFauli
I donīt see how people would look down on someone for peeping. "Look at this swine. Heīs interested in girls!!1"
On the contrary, Iīd use that situation to my advantage, like, say, Froppy complains about my peeping, I tell her that I just think sheīs so beautiful and that Iīd like to date her. Even if she declines, it establishes me as someone with serious ambitions instead of just some pervert.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Depends on the people who catch you, and who you are peeping on.
Peeping on Putin in the Kremlin and getting caught by his guards? Bad.
Peeping on a slutty grandma who poses nudes on Tumblr and getting caught by the neighborhood kids? Safe.
Peace.
Wtf kind of examples are that? both make me barf
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
He didn't, but that's barely relevant.
"Buff, I hereby prosecute you for attempted murder"
"Oh, but did I know about the knife before I got in the room?"
-_-
Look at this guy, he thinks with his dick and shows no moral restraint from it.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Why are you only interested in girls if you commit a crime towards them?
"Well, he raped that girl. But at least it proves he's interested in them!"
You can be interested in girls AND respect their privacy.
...you're lucky it's this year. Or else I'd totally disagree with you.
It's actually still not. Despite the president, it's paradise compared to places like the Philippines or Russia.
Peace.
And both me and Mineta (in this episode) do. Nobody went out of their way invade any girlsī privacy.
Even before, the USA had no general healthcare for everyone, had guns for everyone, and kept shooting black people for no good reason. On top of that you now have an immense SJW-crisis where people feel offended by just about anything....you're lucky it's this year. Or else I'd totally disagree with you.
Yeah, Iīd have been right any year of the past decade.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
He absolutely did. And it's sad that you think otherwise.
It's really weird that you consider those first three things negatives, but then also consider SJW's a negative, when those first 3 things are exactly the kinds of things SJWs are against.
This is why you come off as such a creep. You like free healthcare, gun control, are against racism, but for some reason have no respect for women. It's like this weird blind spot you have in an otherwise progressive world view.
He entered a changing room for boys, had no idea about the hole, and then happened to find out about it. No premediated action takes place.
Itīs almost like Iīm an individual and not part of the USAīs childish "two sides"-system.It's really weird that you consider those first three things negatives, but then also consider SJW's a negative, when those first 3 things are exactly the kinds of things SJWs are against.
I donīt think unplanned peeping is evil and makes you Hitler-reincarnate. Thatīs really all. No idea why this makes me lack respect women in every aspect.This is why you come off as such a creep. You like free healthcare, gun control, are against racism, but for some reason have no respect for women. It's like this weird blind spot you have in an otherwise progressive world view.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
He very much premeditated looking into it KNOWING full well what he'd see through it. Sorry, but this attempt of yours to make it into a "Hey look a random hole, I'm curious about what I can see through it" ridiculousness is quite daft.
If he had respect for women, and not only lust, he would have shouted through the hole to the girls to somehow patch it from the other end. Or he would have kept silent about it right then (and obviously not looked through) and contacted the maintenance later. That way the girls wouldn't have even needed to suspect any violations, knowing nothing about it.
No matter how this case is twisted, it won't turn ok. It's not like a mixed gender sauna at a pool female classmates could knowingly enter.
From the beginning, my point was the way that Mineta attempted to look through the hole was the least bad/evil you could possibly imagine. Whereas others fit an outrage about what a scummy, monstrous person he is because of the attempt. I never disagreed that in legal terms, peeping is criminal and holds consequences if caught by the police.
However, morally speaking, peeping on girls through a small hole is on the lower end of the spectrum (rape and then murder would be on the other end). I cannot accept the generalization that someone who uses a coincidential circumstance to peep on girls doesnīt respect women. Simply because the crime/moral wrongdoing here is so incredibly insignificant that itīs - really - nothing.
Take the last episode Youkoso Jitsuryoku for a different example. A significantly more severe one. Here, several boys PLAN from start to end the peeping on girls. AND they want to make photos/videos of them being naked. That is something Iīd condemn, because it takes great effort, planning and risks the spreading of the material, thus really hurting the girls. THAT is "not respecting women".
I can not change your mind if you want to mark me as a creep who doesnīt respect women, because I defend the unintended peeping through a small hole. But thatīs what Iīve gotta live with then. Because no matter how hard I think about it, I cannot see the severity in all of it. Imagine Mineta had kept quiet, watched the girls change, the end. What would have happened? Mineta being happy and ...? Nah, I donīt see the "disrespecting women" here.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
No one is arguing that peeping is terribly high on the spectrum on this forum.
What we are arguing is that it is on the spectrum. By repeatedly saying that it's okay or coincidental is to say it is not on the spectrum, which is false. To say his peeping was unintended is also false.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
How can it be unintended when HE ANNOUNCED WHAT HE WAS DOING AND WHY HE WAS DOING IT BEFORE HE EVEN DID IT?!
What you're describing here is the difference between grabbing money out of a cash register, and committing armed robbery of a bank.
They're both different degrees of severity of the same issue. Just because you COULD be robbing a bank, and aren't, doesn't make it okay to swipe money from a register.
We know you don't...
Difference being that I think there is a certain leeway on the spectrum of terribleness that is justifiable, because it registers so lowly/insignificantly on said spectrum. Other examples would be speeding 5 km/h over the official speed limit, or pirating anime online - both of which, however, are worse than an unintentional peep.
And how can it not be unintended? I feel weīre going in circles here. Mineta didnīt know about the hole before entering the room. He happened to find it. Then tried to look through it. Thatīs it. Intent would have been there had he known about the hole.
@Darth: You can try all you want to paint me as misogyinist here, it wonīt make it true.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I don't have to.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Mon, 08-28-2017 at 03:10 AM.
So let me ask: Respecting women in literally any other regard, but thinking that unintentional peeping through a small hole is okay, makes me a misogynist? So Iīm on the same level as someone who believes woman should stay at home with the kids and do the cooking?
Pardon me, but I think youīre ridiculous, Darth. And youīre doing exactly the kind of shit that SJWs do: "Youīre either 100% for us or 100% against us". Except, ya know, Iīm in-between. Like most people.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I wonder if this discussion would have went on for as long as it is if the roles were reversed. If a girl peeped and got caught.
As far as I can remember the ep, it did not go this way: "Huh, what is this hole in the wall? Does it lead to the next room or something? Was there a cable here before? Hmm... Holy shit, it's the girls' changing room!"
It went this way: "Hey, guys, I found there's a hole in this wall and on the other side of the wall must be the girls' fricking changing room! Let's look through this and check which chick has the most fabulous body!"
That's as intentional and intended as it could ever need to be. Check out one of your famous German detective stories on TV, MFauli. Quite often the murder victim is killed simply with something that happened to be readily at hand, not with a gun purchased just for the purpose.
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