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    I think if Bakugo was going to become a villain on his own, he'd have done it already.

    If you pay attention, a lot of the villains seems to have a problem with what they deem the oppressiveness of society. A lot of them are simply nonconformists.

    I think if ANYTHING was going to make Bakugo become a villain, it'd be trying to tell him how he can and can't act.

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    He doesn't have to become a villain to become a pest to society. Bakugo is so volatile, he's like a kid with an AK47. Remember his outburst just from Shoto not using his other hand? Teachers had to chain him down. What if there was no one strong enough nearby to stop him? How many civilians can he hurt or kill by accident because of his temper tantrums? Remember how he went nuts during the cavalry battle and ignored his teammates? How can he even work together with other heroes with how he behaves?

    He needs to learn patience and humility. That's all part of becoming an adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    He needs to learn patience and humility.
    Different people learn things in different ways. Something tells me trying Bakugo down and tying to force a lesson into him isn't going to work very well.

    Bakugo is already a completely different person than he was at the start of the series. And he did that just by adapting to his circumstances. Not because All Might or Eraser Head tied him up and told him to behave.

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    Completely different how? He still goes batshit insane and thinks he is the best and whatnot.

    The guy needs to be kicked in the teeth. You can't baby asshat bullies like him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Completely different how? He still goes batshit insane and thinks he is the best and whatnot.

    The guy needs to be kicked in the teeth. You can't baby asshat bullies like him.
    Because he used to be the guy worshiped by everyone around him. He used to be the center of attention. But that's not the case anymore. NOBODY in his new class treats him the way people in his old class treated him. He's not the superstar to any of them. He's just the loud agro guy.

    And he WAS kicked in the teeth. When he lost to Deku. It's completely changed his character. His personality APPEARS the same, but it's not. He's all bark and no bite now. And he hasn't bullied anyone since then.

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    Then he has to change his appearance for it to be a complete change. Looking and acting like a dick bully, even if he doesn't mean harm, isn't gonna help anyone, much less him.

    I'm actually surprised people are tolerating someone like him. In any other scenario, he'd be disciplined/gang-bullied severely from the start. That time simply came now. He's like Ranta, only with no excuse for acting like a fool.
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    Question, was that letter implying that Mei made Deku's new costume, or just that people in support must all have Mei's same mindset?

    Also, I just rewatched the entire series recently and just now realized that "that's my starting line"
    is this series' "that's my ninja way".
    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Then he has to change his appearance for it to be a complete change. Looking and acting like a dick bully, even if he doesn't mean harm, isn't gonna help anyone, much less him.
    Perhaps. But then he wouldn't be entertaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I'm actually surprised people are tolerating someone like him. In any other scenario, he'd be disciplined/gang-bullied severely from the start.
    Well, again, being a superhero is kind of a profession that encourages you to be a diva. Most of his negative characteristics can also be found in various members of the school staff even.
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    While I think that some people do find Bakugo entertaining as he is, my point was he being disciplined is going to be good for him and his world in the long run. Even if his bad qualities can be found in mature heroes, the extent of his attitude is a little too much for an upstart. Just imagine how he'd behave in the future if left unchecked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEX
    Question, was that letter implying that Mei made Deku's new costume, or just that people in support must all have Mei's same mindset?
    They must all have Mei's mindset. If Mei did the costume then there's no reason to assume everyone else is like her.

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    So they said in this episode that Deku is the 9th user of One For All.

    The quirk supposedly lets you transfer your abilities to someone else. I wonder if that included their quirks. Because I get that All Might it strong, but he seems a hell of a lot stronger than just 8 people strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    So they said in this episode that Deku is the 9th user of One For All.

    The quirk supposedly lets you transfer your abilities to someone else. I wonder if that included their quirks. Because I get that All Might it strong, but he seems a hell of a lot stronger than just 8 people strong.
    Not sure why you're drawing a correlation from "a lot stronger than just 8 people strong" with transferring including their quirks. Quirks doesn't equal strength. So, not sure why you're seemingly discounting the intrinsic strength of the One For All itself.

    Now, I'm not saying that transferring may not be doing just that as you mention with the Quirk, but so far there has been no evidence to lead one to believe that's the case. All Might being incredibly strong is not a good enough justification to believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    Not sure why you're drawing a correlation from "a lot stronger than just 8 people strong" with transferring including their quirks. Quirks doesn't equal strength.
    It does if one of those 8 people had super strength as a Quirk.

    All Might said that he was Quirkless, but that the person who had One For All before him wasn't. So it is possible to have other Quirks in addition to having One For All. If one of those other 7 people had a Super Strength Quirk, and Quirks got passed on along with everything else with One For All, then it would explain why All Might has the strength of, like 100 people, when he should only have the strength of 8.

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    I doubt it. That would mean Izuki now has several powers aside from All Might's super speed and strength, unless all that came before him are quirkless, a detail that would've been mentioned when All Might spoke about himself being quirkless.

    Also, All Might never showed different quirks even in desperate battles, so I think One for All is just incredibly enhanced physical abilities. I also think the latent power of the transferable quirk was already very high from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    a detail that would've been mentioned when All Might spoke about himself being quirkless.
    Why would it have been mentioned? He didn't even tell Deku how many people before him there WERE. Much less what each of their quirk status' was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    It does if one of those 8 people had super strength as a Quirk.

    All Might said that he was Quirkless, but that the person who had One For All before him wasn't. So it is possible to have other Quirks in addition to having One For All. If one of those other 7 people had a Super Strength Quirk, and Quirks got passed on along with everything else with One For All, then it would explain why All Might has the strength of, like 100 people, when he should only have the strength of 8.
    Erm, no. All Might having all that strength is already explained by One for All intrinsic characteristics as it is. That the series at some point might want to come up with some alternate idea on how One for All works, so be it. But to this point there's nothing needed to explain why All Might is incredibly strong beyond simply that's what One for All does.

    Not sure where you're getting the "should only have the strength of eight" bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    Erm, no. All Might having all that strength is already explained by One for All intrinsic characteristics as it is. That the series at some point might want to come up with some alternate idea on how One for All works, so be it. But to this point there's nothing needed to explain why All Might is incredibly strong beyond simply that's what One for All does.
    But...that's NOT what they said One For All does.

    He specifically said that the One For All allows a person to cultivate their power, and then pass that power on to another person. That's how he described it. At no point did he say "One For All makes me super strong".

    The way it's described, you receive the power of the people who possessed it before you, then you add your own power to it, so that the next person that receives it is even stronger than you.

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    From memory, I believe it was mentioned that One for All is indeed a skill that is built up as it is passed on, but they also never said that it wasn't powerful from the get go. So I think it was strong from the start and gets stronger with more successors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    From memory, I believe it was mentioned that One for All is indeed a skill that is built up as it is passed on, but they also never said that it wasn't powerful from the get go. So I think it was strong from the start and gets stronger with more successors.
    This is how I see it as well. At some when this Quirk manifested I would assume it was damn strong intrinsically, and successors from then on have been making it even stronger.

    Edit: Maybe this can make some sense and make it more palatable for you, and it could "explain" a lot of it as you say. Maybe even if we consider All for One having great intrinsic strength, maybe if one already has a Quirk in possession it gives more "strength" to All for One than a Quirkless owner would. So maybe it isn't about transferring Quirks, but more about how much All for One's strength increase process gets exacerbated.

    Would a theory in that direction make more sense?
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    Don't you think it possible it could have a drawback mechanism included as well? So, if a person inheriting One for All doesn't train and master it all, and then passes it on to the next person, it might actually get weaker? This would also make perfect sense in my opinion. A stylish Lamarckistic power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Don't you think it possible it could have a drawback mechanism included as well? So, if a person inheriting One for All doesn't train and master it all, and then passes it on to the next person, it might actually get weaker? This would also make perfect sense in my opinion. A stylish Lamarckistic power.
    Maybe? Who knows. It might as well simply be kinda like a passive characteristic that absorbs what it can get and move on.

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