Boku no Hero Academia

[Buffalobiian]

Mineta peeking is like self defence.

I'm done, lol.

[MFauli]

Mineta peeking is like self defence.

I'm done, lol.

I kinda liked that idea :P

[shinta|hikari]

An analogy would be killing someone because you chose to, and killing someone in self-defense.

You just won the internet for 7.2 days.

[DarthEnderX]

Also as for Darths nothing - murder, not sure if I got it but it seemed like Mfauli misunderstood, it's not that it's nothing or everything rather you either are a murder or you aren't. The spectrum is there just that it was an extreme example to show you either are or aren't something. So in terms of respecting women you either do or don't, you don't just respect them sometimes and at other times don't respect them.

That's pretty much the gist.

What you´re saying is that I´m as bad as all those other people who harass, rape, discriminate, and so on.

No, I'm saying neither of you respect women. They are obviously much worse than you, but the fact that you don't respect women still applies.

Again, to go back to the "stealing from a register and robbing a bank" example. Both of them are "thieves", but obviously the bank robber is a much worse version of a thief.

What you are saying is basically, "I don't rob banks, I don't rob convenience stores, I don't steal cars, I don't take people's wallets. I DO take fruit from fruit stands, but I'm not a thief." You ARE a thief though, because it only takes ONE of those things to make you a thief. You aren't NOT a thief just because you don't do MOST of those things.

Disagree, simply because I don´t see Mineta having committed a crime on the level of murder in any way whatsoever.

And nobody is saying he did. Do you not know what the fuck an analogy is?

[MFauli]

No, I'm saying neither of you respect women. They are obviously much worse than you, but the fact that you don't respect women still applies.

And I still won´t accept this generalization. I think accidental peeping isn´t that bad. And because of this ONE thing, I´m supposed to disrespect women? Disrespect them in general, in any situation? Yeah, no.

Again, to go back to the "stealing from a register and robbing a bank" example. Both of them are "thieves", but obviously the bank robber is a much worse version of a thief.

Within that analogy, I´d be closer to someone buying groceries who had his bag open on the ground, then some product fell into the bag, which I only notice when I´m already back home.

And nobody is saying he did. Do you not know what the fuck an analogy is?

I refuse any analogy that somehow attaches murder to what Mineta did. That´s the kind of nonsensical escalation you´re also attempting when you label me is "disrespecting women".

[Kraco]

You should rewatch the episode. There was nothing accidental whatsoever in what Mineta was attempting to do. It's about as accidental as, using your grocery store example, you saw some ADHD brats wantonly throwing and kicking products around and you opened your bag to "accidentally" catch a few of the items, supposedly not noticing how they mysteriously landed straight in your bag.

[Munsu]

"Accidental peeping" LOL. That's still your description of that scene? Man you're fucking delusional. Which is sad.

[shinta|hikari]

Another sad thing is people are still compelled to continue this "discussion" when clearly one side refuses to even consider changing his mind, regardless of what happens. Talking to a wall should've gotten old fast.

[Munsu]

Well, sad as well calling a discussion sad (which it is) while at the same time prolonging said discussion.

Anyways, I don't care about changing his mind, he can think what he wants. I do care about how he's misrepresenting the FACTS of the scene which are clear as day... but what can I say, hard to talk to obtuse blind people.

But 2-3 short posts from myself requires little energy expenditure.

(I feel the beginning of another 'sad' tangent discussion starting lol, I already spent more energy in this post than all the ones prior to this).

[MFauli]

@Munsu: I explained that. Ofc there was intent. But only after Mineta accidentally found out about the hole. Which I feel is very different from knowing about the hole before entering the room and being dead set on peeping. Agreed? And stop being sad. Nobody´s sad

Another sad thing is people are still compelled to continue this "discussion" when clearly one side refuses to even consider changing his mind, regardless of what happens. Talking to a wall should've gotten old fast.

I "refuse to change my mind" as much as you do, don´t you think?

[Buffalobiian]

Don't you guys get it? It was self-defence

Jiro's earphone jack that is

[Kraco]

But only after Mineta accidentally found out about the hole. Which I feel is very different from knowing about the hole before entering the room and being dead set on peeping. Agreed?

Not agreed. There's no difference whatsoever. If he was the one who drilled the whole, there would be the difference of being guilty of damaging school property as well, but that's it. Unless you live in Russia, China, or equivalent, intention alone doesn't mean anything (there are no thought crimes), so it's pointless to ponder when the intention exactly started. I kind of doubt if somebody was found in possession of detailed plans of how to conduct peeping, he would be criminally charged (in the West), unlike planning terrorism, murder, or such.

[MFauli]

Not agreed. There's no difference whatsoever.

Then the debate is officially over. See ya on Saturday.

[DarthEnderX]

I feel like at this point, he's just trying to avoid self-reflection. Everyone else here has told him that at the very least the "intent" part of his argument is total bullshit.

But 2-3 short posts from myself requires little energy expenditure.

I expend ALL OF THE ENERGY!!!

[MFauli]

I feel like at this point, he's just trying to avoid self-reflection. Everyone else here has told him that at the very least the "intent" part of his argument is total bullshit.

See, that´s typical SJW bs. Claiming that "everyone" did something. No. You. Just you called me "disrespecting women" for defending the coincidental peeping. And I won´t accept that. I respect women in every other context. I just don´t find this kind of peeping condemn-worthy. By calling me "disrespecting women" for just that, you´re putting me in the same basket as true misogynists that hate women and have truly horrible views. I don´t.

Do you realize that distinction? Probably not ...

[DarthEnderX]

Edit: Double post

[DarthEnderX]

Everyone else here has told him that at the very least the "intent" part of his argument is total bullshit.

See, that´s typical SJW bs. Claiming that "everyone" did something. No. You.

Yep...

Apparently this wasn't obvious.

11:50 - "Next door is, you know.. The girl's locker room."
11:59 - /rips off poster to enable better peeking.
12:00 - "boobs'
12:02 - /peeks.

He knows. Then he peeks. That's fucking INTENT.

He very much premeditated looking into it KNOWING full well what he'd see through it. Sorry, but this attempt of yours to make it into a "Hey look a random hole, I'm curious about what I can see through it" ridiculousness is quite daft.

You should rewatch the episode. There was nothing accidental whatsoever in what Mineta was attempting to do.

...just me.

[shinta|hikari]

That's not everyone though. I never commented on the issue! Ha!

[MFauli]

Yo, Darth, and when you´ve got no more argument to use, you go ad hominem with a quote dump. Already got the SJW-behavior internalized, huh?

Btw. just so this can end, because I don´t see it progressing anywhere: I think that finding an unplanned peeping is not that bad and it definitely doesn´t make you a misogynist. That´s as dumb as saying "You´re an alt-right supporter", because I don´t support transgender people, yet support all other minorities. Stop it with the "100% for us or 100% against us" mentality. I can find fun in some harmless peeping AND respect women.

[DarthEnderX]

Yo, Darth, and when you´ve got no more argument to use, you go ad hominem with a quote dump.

It's not ad hominem, it's literally evidence that proves your statement false. Close your yourlogicalfallacyis.com tab, because you're doing it wrong.