Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

[DarthEnderX]

So does Garfiel think everyone else is stupid for trusting Subaru then, or what? His beloved Ram, Roswal, all falling for Subaru's trick?

I mean, it's not like magic that alters people's minds exists in this world or anything.

Oh wait...

So instead of talking it out when you clearly have enough power to ask for surrender, you just start slaughtering them. Surrender is also different from discussion, just to make sure no one conflates the two.

He TRIED a nonviolence by imprisoning him first. Subs stays locked up till Amelia finishes. Nobody gets hurt. But then he broke out, his non-violent solution failed. Now it's time to violence.

He is a selfish evil bastard. Just because you have reasons to do something evil doesn't mean you aren't evil.

I'm not saying he's a good guy. He's a Bakugo-ass character. He's violent and rash. He is literally a caged animal. And his actions are in keeping with that kind of character.

The witch of greed did give him that right, but they don't know that.

They also don't know what did do it. He's not supposed to be able to take it.

You're acting like the test is some kind of benevolent spirit, and that they should be treating him being able to take it as confirmation that he's a good and worthy person. But it's not, it's a magic trap thing that he is somehow able to circumvent the rules of. That's suspicious, not reassuring.

After the trial the witch scent got a lot stronger though and that is what bothered Garf as far as I understood it.

What I don't get is that in one life, he is like "please try and do the trial" and in the next he doesn't want him to do the trial and starts being extremely hostile.

I feel like you already stated the solution.

He took the first trial, and came out smelling way more evil. Therefor, letting Subaru take the trials must be evil.

[shinta|hikari]

He TRIED a nonviolence by imprisoning him first. Subs stays locked up till Amelia finishes. Nobody gets hurt. But then he broke out, his non-violent solution failed. Now it's time to violence.

I think all of Subaru's deaths seemed to have warped your idea of what violence is. Knocking him out IS violence. Imprisoning him all tied up like a pig and blindfolded IS violence. He broke out because he was imprisoned unjustly (and meaninglessly in his POV), not knowing what they will do to him.

How the heck did you come up with "the non-violent solution has failed" from all that, I have no idea.

Ram took a fighting stance because Garfiel clearly gave an ultimatum (using that idiom) of surrender or get attacked (and clearly as we've seen, getting attacked means death).

Also, asking someone to surrender (and get imprisoned again) under the threat of violence is NOT a discussion. It's coercion. And that is not okay.

As for Subaru being suspicious, I absolutely agree. But suspicion doesn't warrant what Garfiel did. Remember, Subaru hasn't done anything harmful to them or anyone at all. They should've just questioned him more to know more, not lock him up and leave him alone without trying to learn anything.

[KrayZ33]

I feel like you already stated the solution.

He took the first trial, and came out smelling way more evil. Therefor, letting Subaru take the trials must be evil.

but he said that before he cleared the first trial as far as I remember.

It was when he went back to the mansion for the first time - and then Garf said the exact opposite in the next loop.

No witch scent involved... or at least the scent shouldn't be different? Unless it gets thicker each time he dies? Which I think is what happens if I remember the past loops? So I guess that explains his change in attitude?

Even if Subaru does the same things each loop, his scent will change and thus creatures sensitive to it will react differently? That it?

I really don't know, it already confused me when it happened 3 episodes ago and now it's even more confusing to me because the characters are A in one loop and then B in another without anyone interacting with them.