Hai to Gensou no Grimgar

[Kraco]

I thought she had lost her whole team, but I guess it's a bit more realistic it wasn't all of them. This way it makes more sense she got away alive, rather than managing to escape all alone. But then again, I wonder if that dude was so right with his analysis. If she was thinking like that, then she wouldn't have joined the MC party all. No doubt she has some hesitation, but I think her current personality is explained by two things: She doesn't want to make the same mistake again, so she won't overexert herself nor make the whole team go beyond their abilities thinking the healer can fix everything, and on the other hand she doesn't want to become friends with the new team so that even if some of them die, she won't be as sad as she was when losing her good friends in the original team. It would be more like losing business associates; a regrettable thing, but it happens.

Considering her old personality, it's only a matter of time, though. Not to mention sitting alone at home doing nothing but feeling regret in the darkness isn't all that fun. Every time she gets emotional, whether it's annoyed or just a little bit satisfied, she's losing her detachment.

And yeah, I also think they are normal sized. Must be only the company she's keeping that might make them look smaller, but only relatively.

[NeoCybercoin]

Though I think in the end Ranta will be the one to break her out of her shell since he tries to hold back against her but just can't.

[shinta|hikari]

I just want Ranta to die already.

Shihoru I'm sick of. Without waki, she is absolutely nothing, even in combat. Chippai for the win.

Haru is making good progress with Mary. Anyone familiar with VN kuudere routes understands this fact. And don't forget that Manato, Mary's male version, had the hots for Haru. It's inevitable Mary falls for him too

What isn't making good progress is this fucking story. Did they really need to repeat Mary's attitude problem again in this episode? That flashback could have ended halfway and placed around midway of the episode. Did they really need to add that spiritual Manato scene? We already know he wanted Haru as the next leader two episodes ago. We already know Haru doesn't want that since episode 1. WE ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THIS EPISODE EXCEPT FOR THE FUCKING FLASHBACK.

They are really milking their content here.

[Kraco]

Oh, the LN this is based on actually has 7 volumes out. I was looking at the manga situation earlier, which was of no consequence obviously. They truly are stretching this for no good reason. Unless the novels are as terrible and we have actually been "speeding" though half of them already.

Ranta annoys me as well, but it's fine. This show is so lethargic even an idiot is welcome...

[MFauli]

Disregarding the god-aweful pacing:

- WHY cannot they communicate properly with with each other? All of what´s currently going on is a non-problem. Mary being a stuck-up emo-cunt who refuses to tell them her reasons ("I´m not healing every little scratch, so I have enough MP left for when we´re in real trouble." - "Oh, that´s so responsible of you, Mary. We never even thought of that!"; "I´m sorry that I´m this distant, but my previous party was killed so ..." - "It´s okay, Mary, we get it"), and our heroes snitching around Mary´s back about her past - which is bound to raise more drama ("HOW COULD YOU INVESTIGE MY PAST! THAT´S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU! I HATE YOU ALL!"). It is so dumb. Especially since this anime invests so much time on portraying everything sorta realistic. But it goes full-anime in these regards. sigh

- I kinda like Ranta on a conceptional level. He kinda behaves the most realistic. Not like some pseudo-adult that none of them are. They´re teenagers. And Ranta acts like one, so I like that. He´s not the perfect moral entitity that our thief-leader is. BUT: Him asking so loudly and vehemently about ... what happened between thief and bow girl was too embarrassing. And too unrealistic. Seriously, nobody does that. Nobody. If it was just the boys sitting together, then it´d have made somewhat sense. But going all "OMG, TELL ME, TELL ME, EVERY DETAIL! So you grabbed her body - I mean the girl sitting right next to us - and then what? WHAT? DEED YOO FUCK?!"

:|

[Kraco]

They aren't sporting a light music club here. Their very lives depend on their every action and decision, just like they painfully learned. They can't fully rely on a person who doesn't want to communicate with them or give her own opinions on their tactics, other than saying "such a scratch won't kill you, deal with it". If it's like that, they at least need to know why she's like that to be able judge how they should act to make the most out of her. They learned a lot by listening to that story, not only about Mary but also about being adventurers (or whatever volunteer soldiers they are called). Sure, it might be awkward if/when she learns they went to learn it behind her back, but in the end it's her own fault for not talking about anything. Like I said, they aren't in some harmless school club. It's deadly serious business and she was falling short. She might have done better like this in some group of badasses, but these weaklings either need to work together or die.

[MFauli]

Yeah, and now she´s gonna distrust them, if not simply leave. Of course, this is a shitty anime, so she´ll forgive them.

[Kraco]

It seemed to you like she was trusting them to begin with? She's obviously going along for her share of the spoils in order to feed herself. Who knows how long she spent sitting in the dark loneliness of her room brooding the past regrets, spending all the money she earned with her old group until she had no choice left. Honestly, with her attitude she wouldn't have gone adventuring anymore if she could get away without.

Of course that's going to change. Considering how her old personality was, she can't help but become friendly with this new group as time goes by. People don't change that easily.

[lelouch]

This is like the story of SAO but from the perspective of the goons who weren't all-stars like Kirito.

[shinta|hikari]

Only in SAO, they had the option of not hunting and living in town. Here, you starve if you don't kill em innocent goblins.

[lelouch]

I prefer strong / OP mcs, makes shit more exciting. If they combined a strong MC with the realism of killing npcs in this show, it would be on point

[MFauli]

Episode 7


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Man, I feel sorry for Moguzo. Yeah, yeah, they´re all chipping together so he can have good armor ... but only, because they intend to throw him at the biggest, most dangerous monsters :/

It´s also so weird when they talk about "levels". We never get to see any game-y systems, yet they´re clearly there, somehow.

And I´d also like to know how exactly the damage system here works. Fighting that wolf monster that killed Mary´s group looks like getting hit once means "you´re dead". You either dodge an attack or that´s it. So I wonder what worth it has to be a "high level character" in that context. Would someone like that still get ohko´ed or can he take several otherwise lethal blows to his body?

[NeoCybercoin]

Good to see results of their grinding Goblins. More skills and armor. Mary slowly opening up.
I am guessing Haru is experiencing Critical hits if such a system is in place.

[shinta|hikari]

I'm thinking that lethal blows are still lethal, but higher levels mean more experience and a stronger body, lowering the chance of incurring lethal blows in the first place.

[Kraco]

You'd think higher level would also equal to more loot and thus better equipment in practice. If they have magic equipment (or some strange metals), it could make all the difference in the world. Big monsters have their natural defence and offence capabilities, humans need to rely on external ones (unless it's a Chinese kung fu story).

I'm glad Mary starts to get better along with them. It's also absolutely true what they said about the unnecessary lines. An occasional joke is a different thing compared to insulting somebody every day, especially considering these guys aren't childhood friends or anything.

[shinta|hikari]

Ranta needs his tongue cut off and fed to goblins, assuming they even wanna eat it.

[MFauli]

Ranta is the only good character in this show. He´s portrayed in a realistic manner unlike all the others. The thief guy is way too empathic. Moguzo needs to find his balls. Shihoru is mentally ill and thinks she doesn´t have big boobs. Bow girl is total yandere.

Ranta is the only guy that says it like it is, while at the same time obviously trying his best not to break down from all the weight that this cruel world continuously puts on him. If the remaining episodes give it enough room, I´d bet that Ranta is the first to have a real emotional outburst, since he´s not a walking trope like all the others in his group.

[shinta|hikari]

Ranta and realistic should not be in the same sentence. A real person who acts like that would get kicked out of any social group immediately.

[Kraco]

I don't remember ever seeing a person quite like Ranta in my life. Perhaps some rude jackasses have got somewhere in the vicinity but not all the way there. The other people are more realistic in that sense. I don't feel like Haruhiro's growth into leadership was unrealistic at all (not counting Manato's bloody ghost). People who have no interest in leadership but are forced into it by circumstances are a dime a dozen. You can hardly call him overly empathetic considering he so slowly started to realise what unity means for a group of weaklings and why Manato destroyed thing by trying too much. Shihoru would be quite realistic if she wasn't so anime beautiful but more plain. Depressed shy girls not happy with their bodies are hardly unheard of.

But then again, this is entertainment so it can't ever be too realistic, lest it loses its entertainment factor.

[MFauli]

Ranta and realistic should not be in the same sentence. A real person who acts like that would get kicked out of any social group immediately.

Yes, but that´s the point. Ranta is a real character who´d see real consequences. All the others are anime tropes. And lol @shy girls not happy with their bodies. Shihoru is a beauty by any standard, so that´s not realistic at all.

Meanwhile, Ranta is like that obnoxious brat you´ve seen somewhere and always hated. That´s how real he is.