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    I really liked Yume and Haru's scene.

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    I don't get how declining the gold was a smart move. That could've made them a lot safer with new gear and less urgency to hunt, giving them more time to get better. Renji wasn't even being an ass about it.
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    Pride wouldn't let him. 'Just lost a friend/leader and now you are giving us gold as compensation. We don't need your pity!'

    Think that was his mindset.

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    It's the wrong kind of pride. It's the kind that gets people killed.

    The funny thing is, that scene was setup so that viewers are supposed to root for his decision to decline it. It's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    It's the wrong kind of pride. It's the kind that gets people killed.

    The funny thing is, that scene was setup so that viewers are supposed to root for his decision to decline it. It's ridiculous.
    It's not such a simple situation. Generally speaking giving money to people who are wallowing in self-pity and drowning their sorrows in alcohol in a bar isn't necessarily a smart move. They would just keep drinking all the more and longer instead of being forced to sort out their problems. I don't think Renji had any such thoughts but was just genuinely feeling sorry for them, but this time it seems like the incident served as a wake-up call for those dudes. Their pride told them that they still need to keep pushing forward just like they had before the death. Or all the more so with Manato the overachiever dead.

    If Renji really wants to help them despite everything, he might consider simply creating a mission for them and giving a really good (but not blatantly crazy) reward for pulling it off. But then again, maybe he doesn't need to do anything anymore.

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    The right thing to do is grit your teeth, accept the money, feel mortified by doing so, and use that to get back on your feet and get better.

    Pride is a good thing, just not when it exposes you to needless danger and gets you killed. Everything has limits, as well as a time and place. I'd feel a lot more respect for Haru if he went over to Renji and told him he was only borrowing the gold piece and will return it once he gets richer.

    The problem is, if these guys were that smart, they'd be in Renji's group already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I'd feel a lot more respect for Haru if he went over to Renji and told him he was only borrowing the gold piece and will return it once he gets richer.
    Agreed.

    Sorry if I asked that already, but: Is this a 12 episode-only anime or will there be a second cour?

    i guess the thief will become their new leader, but itīs not looking good right now.

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    He's the best bet they have. Everyone else is just an herbivore or self interested.
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    1. "A herbivore, not "an".

    2.) LOL, Iīve never heard that term being used as an insult. Will keep it in mind

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    It depends on how you pronounce the word.

    And that's not how you quote properly.

    I fixed it for you:
    "A herbivore," not "an."

    It's a Japanese insult for men (people?) who are not sufficiently assertive.
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    Really, thatīs a Japanese insult? Can you post the Japanese translation? Iīd like to learn it. Just came back from my first Japanese test at uni an hour ago. Time to learn something new lol

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    It's a modern term. Based on this article, it seems limited to men, so I can't really call the two useless girls herbivores, though that distinction in itself is a bit sexist. Even women could use more assertiveness depending on the person and situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I'd feel a lot more respect for Haru if he went over to Renji and told him he was only borrowing the gold piece and will return it once he gets richer.
    Yeah, that would have been quite a good solution to it. Looking at the amount of empty mugs on the table, I'm not sure if it could have been possible, though. People aren't exactly getting smarter the more they drink.

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    The problem is, if these guys were that smart, they'd be in Renji's group already.
    They aren't in Renji's group because Renji picked all the good ones. These are the bottom of the barrel types. In Renji's group they would be long dead, every single one of them. It would actually be interesting to know what sort of monsters Renji's bunch kills for work, but it must be at least the bigger and meaner goblins that made short work of the MC group, if not something still more dangerous.

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    That's what I meant.
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    I actually enjoyed both bar scenes and the pace they are taking with adjusting to the loss of a member. Minato was mentioned probably more times than when he was alive, and I could feel a gravity with his passing because they took the time to have a prolonged after struggle. Its ironic that he seems to have gotten a better send off episode than most better developed characters in other series ever do.

    I hope they warm up to the new cleric.

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    Despite the number of times he was mentioned and how you liked those scenes, you still misspelled Manato's name.


    /jk
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    If only he had used his hiraishin no jutsu

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    Oops, forgive my negligent fact checking. I might as well mention that it is nice that they touched on clerics generally not being vanguard material. Is Mary being unreasonable/uncooperative or just conforming to the meta standards of this world?

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    Mary is perfectly logical (and hot). Their party is the unreasonable one.
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    Ep 6 is out.

    And ya know what. I really like the show.

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