Plot Summary: "Objects" are powerful, massive weapons that change the course of warfare and are manned by Elite Object pilots. An odd Elite girl named Milinda meets Quenser, a student who aims to become a Object mechanic, with the soldier-in-training Heivia on a snowy battlefield.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...e.php?id=16322
Episode 1 from Horriblesubs:
http://nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=739939
I was not charmed or anything by that season opening.
It might be it gets better after that, of course there's that ep2 preview. But the subject, those big spheres and the characters were all pretty boring in that first ep.
Also, planes were rather awful in design, even if useless in the story.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
This felt very strange as a world setting. I have come to accept mecha somewhat over the years as tools of war in anime, but this is still much worse. Not to mention the fact that somehow those blobs supposedly changed the whole world, society and politics, practically ending wars, save battles of one Object agaisnt another. We know even nukes, which have the capability to end the human civilization more or less, didn't achieve that. Nuclear weapons simply weren't used ever in a war again. Yet these stupid looking things did it? Yeah, right. Leave it to the Japanese to come up with something like this. As hilarious as Gate was, it still beats this show in believability, har har.
I didn't particularly like the characters, either. As an introduction we have two dudes shoveling snow meaninglessly. If the people can build a giant ball of metal and polymers that moves at very high speeds, you'd think they still remembered how to build bloody tractors, huh? Then we learn one of them has high aspirations as a technician/engineer. Yet he's neglecting his dreams (and the duty he accepted) in favour of shoveling snow and fishing... Hello?
It didn't help the show began with unrealistic military maneuvers (not even counting the ball), but those you have to forgive since the Japanese know nothing of warfare anymore.
The most obvious ridiculous thing is that nukes don't work. But if you give the show that concession, the rest of it kind of makes sense. At least a little bit.
The objects are massive death balls that you can't even get close to. They make every piece of current conventional warfare obsolete. If someone rolls an Object into your country, the only thing you can do is surrender, or fight back with your own Object.
It's kind of like in Gundam, where if you don't have your own Gundam (or tech stolen from Gundams) then you don't even stand a chance.
Production values seem good, so I'm hoping there's a cool battle in the second episode. The author is the same as A Certain Magical Index, so you should keep that in mind when setting your expectations for the plot.
-> shows picture of pilots being cute girls and young boys. Okay.Objects" are powerful, massive weapons that change the course of warfare and are manned by Elite Object pilots.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Unless my monitor has Vaseline on it, I don't think we were watching the same series. Heavy Object's animation is remarkably shitty for a series in 2005, much less 2015. I can't even blame this on Funimation's awful stream quality.Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles
J.C. Staff is well known for half-assing things, but this was like stepping back in time.
I'm not seeing a single positive reason to keep watching this. Conceptually it is okay, but there are plenty of other series that have done the, "warfare has forever changed because of _________ combat system," idea a whole lot better than this first episode.
This is basically Mai-Otome, without the charm, school setting, or Kajiura Yuki's music. I'll try to think of a better comparison, but that's a pretty accurate summary of the concept and delivery so far. It's also like a bad Gundam 00, and that's saying something.
Overpowering weapon (Heavy Object, Otome) with each country only owning a few at most, eccentric female domineering headmistress/commander, bright-eyed protagonist (male/female), stoic female co-lead, etc.
edit 2:
And no, I don't mean the CGI looks bad. I mean the animation looks low-quality for even 10 years ago. The CGI isn't that bad, but everything else is.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Sat, 10-03-2015 at 06:30 AM. Reason: typos and edit 2
Nukes barely work but laser cannons do. Right.
And now everyone making this because Japan taught them to?
I don't even know.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
First episode was terrible. Last scene was a bit promising at least, but that's all there is to it so far. Whole episode was boring.
I have to admit, I didn't watch this yet and only the preview so far but...
WHO COMES UP WITH SUCH A HORRIBLE MECHA DESIGN?
Really? That totally looks like something I drew when I was 8 years old or something, guns wherever they could possibly fit and each one of them is pooping missles out like they don't need to reload.
I can't believe that this isn't an endboss from Castle Crashers. Who...no, HOW does this even sell a single copy? It's just... Japan is so freaking weird man. Their definition of "interesting" or "cool" is completely out of this world.
effort:
pretty sure the author stole that design from me when he saw me drawing it all the way back in kindergarten.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 10-03-2015 at 04:08 PM.
Honestly, it is a lot more realistic than any other mecha anime design.
The Objects are basically just tanks blown up to ridiculous scale. What do you expect something with enough armor to withstand a nuke to look like?
Once it is that big, you might as well put as many guns on it as you can. What else are you going to do with the space?
This doesn't happen.
Last edited by MasterOfMoogles; Sat, 10-03-2015 at 05:10 PM.
I'm not sure about realistic or not, but yeah... I'd say this is more of a tank than anything mecha. I wouldn't go overboard over a design.
You can always go with the generic mecha found in all other mecha shows:
Of everything there is to criticize, mecha design should be the least of it.
Humanoid gundam-style robots are ridiculously stupid and impractical.
A specialized tank or plane would almost certainly be better suited for any task.
I actually really appreciate that the Objects don't try to look "cool".
A building sized machine is as stupid as anything imaginable for everything but mining coal. Such a thing can't avoid anything and it's visible far beyond the horizon. It's just a giant sitting duck. There hasn't been a single moment in the human history when an armour wouldn't have been shortly after penetrated by a new weapon. That's why tank warfare in general isn't favoured in the West these days, even if the Russians still love it (because it's such a mighty phallic symbol for a macho culture). A multimillion tank will be destroyed by a weapon costing only tens of thousands at max. We even saw in this same episode that the weapons the objects carry can easily destroy other objects. Those weapons are much smaller than the object itself. This means you can install such a weapon on a much smaller platform and destroy a hulking enemy object before its operator had any idea what hit it. That's how warfare goes anywhere else but in the minds of Japanese authors.
And yeah, human shaped mecha are also ridiculous realistically speaking, but much less so than these things.
eh... no, just no.Honestly, it is a lot more realistic than any other mecha anime design.
yeah, because like absolutely *every* mecha show has bipedal mechas in it, right?You can always go with the generic mecha found in all other mecha shows
There are more than enough versions that don't function and look like Gundams.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 10-03-2015 at 05:55 PM.
The concept here is that it doesn't matter that you can see it or shoot it from miles away. They can detect you from miles away and kill you first, or they can just ignore you because of their armor.
Or they can just shoot down any projectiles with lasers.
Long-range planes and missiles are almost completely useless.
How powerful are nukes anyway? Would it be possible to defend against it with a thick enough metal barrier, assuming you have some form of fictional EMP shielding?
Peace.
No, shit just melts if you actually manage to hit it directly
In trying to search for estimates on what it would take to withstand a nuke, I came across this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_279
I feel like Kamachi HAD to have read this before writing this story.
That read was hilarious. I had to check the page-history section to make sure someone didn't create this page post-anime just to troll us.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I wish you had even read my post before replying to it.
There's no reason to assume that blob has some supernatural sensors as impervious to damage as it otherwise seems to be. Does it has superman superzoom cameras that see through the armor or something? No, I don't think so. It only sees stuff from its limited viewpoint and relies on the single operator to react to the information gathered. Also, it has no way of hiding itself, unlike a smarter opponent. I also said, which you ignored, that since an object can destroy another object, there obviously are weapons that can destroy objects, the weapons we see installed on the objects. They are much smaller than the object itself. Take one of those weapons, install it on a platform of an actually usable size, and you can move and hide it at your leisure. Distract the enemy object from beyond the horizon or with mines and such, and while it's distracted, destroy it with the previously hidden weapon. Very cheap and very efficient.
Unlike the beginning of the episode would have you believe, modern warfare isn't the same as 200 hundred years ago: The heavy weaponry doesn't assume you must be within a line of sight of the target. When you attack something with fighters and bombers, you don't fly right next to the target. The same goes for ships.
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