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    Ah still going I see. It is still entertaining though kinda hard to stay invested since you're all just rehashing the same points that were made 17 pages ago. Anyway Mfauli. I am just curious about something. In talking about the origins of Saitama's strength you used the words reasonable and ridiculous and I wonder if you are actually serious because my initial response was laugher. You talk about Goku and Superman or DF as if their origins are reasonable and not ludicrous and absurd like Saitama's. I'm just wondering how much you thought about that before you posted it because regardless of the source of their power. Whether it is DBZ or One Piece or Bleach or Naruto or Darker than Black or Black Cat or Trigun it is all absurd. The idea that somehow, "I did a lot of push ups" is ludicrous and absurd but I am an alien from another planet or my daddy sealed a demon inside of me is reasonable, is hilariously warped really.

    Anyway let me try to make an actual point before I lose my train of thought. Shinta said it, the origin of his power is completely irrelevant and would make no damn difference. You just seem to have this delusion that having some long convoluted backstory with flashbacks and training montages and tons of meaningless exposition would somehow make this all better, see Naruto. When the issue you have is one of dramatic tension. There are many many shows that go out of their way to create a false sense of suspense by creating some arbitrary barrier for the MC to overcome. Whether you call it super saiyan, SS2, SS3, SSGod. One tail, four, six, eight, sage mode, Bankai or whatever the hell. When it makes no damned bit of difference because we know for a fact that no matter how difficult or impossible it is supposed to be the MC is going to do it anyway. The shonen-power up trope can get really annoying and one of the best things about OPM is that there is not even the pretense that any opponent has even the slightest chance of defeating Saitama. He is Steven Seagal in every Steven Seagal movie. Why you insist that it should be otherwise I still don't understand. If training arcs and constant shonen powerups is what you want then watch Yuyu Hakusho. Or if you want a protag who is at a constant disadvantage and has to continually jump through hoops to have a chance to face his enemies only to discover that there are yet more hoops to jump through then go for Inuyasha. Arguing about this is pointless. Also don't attempt to justify it by saying this all needs to be explained in order to provide an opponent who can be a threat to Saitama just to satisfy your need for dramatic tension. Regardless of how strong the opponent is supposed to be and however reasonable or absurd their backstory we know how it is going to end. It is in the title.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula View Post
    Ah still going I see. It is still entertaining though kinda hard to stay invested since you're all just rehashing the same points that were made 17 pages ago. Anyway Mfauli. I am just curious about something. In talking about the origins of Saitama's strength you used the words reasonable and ridiculous and I wonder if you are actually serious because my initial response was laugher. You talk about Goku and Superman or DF as if their origins are reasonable and not ludicrous and absurd like Saitama's. I'm just wondering how much you thought about that before you posted it because regardless of the source of their power. Whether it is DBZ or One Piece or Bleach or Naruto or Darker than Black or Black Cat or Trigun it is all absurd. The idea that somehow, "I did a lot of push ups" is ludicrous and absurd but I am an alien from another planet or my daddy sealed a demon inside of me is reasonable, is hilariously warped really.
    That is where I stopped reading, because youīre completely wrong here. Itīs actually astounding that you failed to realize that yourself.

    OF COURSE, it is completely reasonable when Gokuīs power is explained by being member of a different species (well, race, considering they can impregnate human girls). I donīt know how I could even begin to explain why becoming the most powerful being by doing some push-ups is ridiculous and all the other franchises you named are not. Goku is an alie. Ichigo becomes a shinigami. Ruffy ate a devil fruit.
    Saitama ... did what millions of people do, too. Thatīs the difference between reasonable and ridiculous. If there were thousands or other Saitamaīs on earth, then it would be a reasonable explanation.

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