Maybe the little sister dies.
Maybe the little sister dies.
Peace.
I can't believe you'd compare especially Takaki to Orga. Altland compared to Mika might make some sense, save for one thing. But Orga as we know him has always been like he is now, from the beginning. He subscribed to the old wisdom of the importance of making decisions (even the wrong decision is better than no decision at all, which is why he looks like a gambler so often), plus he always knew what he wanted in spirit, even if not always concretely. Of course he was always supported in the unholy manner by Mika, giving the impression if Orga couldn't push forward anymore, Mika would put a bullet in Orga's head next. Takaki is nothing like Orga at the moment, who knows if he ever will be, and Altland is lacking the forward pushing role (if you can call it that) Mika has in his own weird manner, even if Altland is a straightforward fighter otherwise.Originally Posted by ForteCross
I don't think Orga will ever become an honest, clean leader of anything, which is why it's fine he joined the more or less criminal syndicate. Takaki, however, might make a good boss of an organization working properly in the open, assuming he learns from this huge mistake.
Episode 32
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"Good for you. Seems like you're decent."
That was the shit. The redemption played out like I had in mind. (just found out I stuffed up the naming in my previous posts. I should just stick with bro-kid and debris-kid).
Lafter x Akihiro is sorely needed. Maybe Turbine needs to die, as cool as he is. That's the only way for Orga / Lafter to move on since there's no way they'd betray him (In terms of Orga surpassing him politically, and Lafter going for someone else romantically).
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Mika makes such a jolly leader in Orga's absence. Is he the de facto second in command, even if Eugene is the official one? I have no idea. Mika doesn't really give a shit about much of anything, and thus he grabs the gun as the quick way out. However, if somebody wants to claim the problem for themselves instead, Mika doesn't bother to argue. More scenes with McGillis and Mika might be funny, with McGillis being aristocratic and civilised even if highly pragmatic and Mika being... Well, Mika. There's always a huge tension in the atmosphere when Orga is in McGillis's company, but Mika naturally doesn't care. He just keeps popping those dried fruits or whatever they are.
Do they need to betray him? Maybe we haven't seen Turbine enough to really judge his personality, but I wouldn't consider it impossible he might give Lafter's hand to Akihiro if they confronted him openly and honestly. I was under an impression he had picked up these girls and offered them a home when they had no other place to go, or at least any better place. He must like all of them, but if one from the edges wanted to form a family with some other man he knows, maybe he would let her go. Considering how much Lafter has been with Tekkadan and away from Turbine's crew, she probably isn't his number one waifu.
She definitely isn't his #1 wife. In fact, his only real wife seems to be the black girl.
They're only his wife in name as far as I'm concerned, but that's still a wife. Betray is a strong word, just like he prolly wouldn't mind Orga climbing higher than him. It's still the same as taking something from him however. It'd simply be easier if he died.
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We don't know enough about him to gauge if he would view it as stealing something from him or consider it like a father giving his daughter away to a decent man the daughter has fallen in love with. Do we even know if he has slept with all of the women? If he considers the likes of Lafter, who aren't bearing his children, only girls he is taking care of and looking after, it could be that he would be pleased if those girls found happiness and families of their own.
I hope the series would delve into this. I wouldn't mind if, for the sake of sealing the deal officially and to make sure nobody had any second thoughts, Turbine demanded some compensation from Tekkadan for allowing Lafter to permanently move from the Turbine crew to the Tekkadan crew. Kind of like football teams are sometimes paying money when players transfer.
No. Don't ask for compensation. That makes Lafter a commodity and that's just a shit direction to go in. It's the entire opposite of humanising Debris.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Episode 33
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Good transition episode. Mika's laying it on without even knowing it.
Tekkadan pulling out of Earth will weaken their position, but their functional numbers don't seem to be large, so perhaps this is for the best. As we've previously stated, there really isn't anyone who can make big-picture decisions aside from Orga. Even during this meeting, no one had a clue besides Orga about what they're about to get into (besides Kudelia / Merribit, but they're not truemalesTekkadan members. Still, more of a member than Radice every was.
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If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It will weaken their peace time position to withdraw from Earth, but they couldn't afford to have anything on Earth if shit hits the fan. The Earth base would be destroyed immediately. So, with McGillis predicting a war will soon happen, leaving Earth is the only viable choice for Tekkadan. It might also be politically correct under any circumstances as the general population might view them as outsider troublemakers after this incident.
I reckon things are proceeding too fast for Kuudelia, concerning the sovereign of Mars talk. I doubt she would be fearing Tekkadan would simply forget her and rule Mars on their own, but she must have had a more political way for the Mars independence in her mind. Merribit's office lady mentality left her even further behind in this talk, her connection to the syndicate making it even worse for her.
Lafter couldn't even deny it anymore. Poor girl.
Episode 34
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What the hell. During the first season I used to think Orga was destined to die at some suitable point to propel Mika forward, but I forgot that anticipation during this second season. However, now when we suddenly learned Merribit is dating the old mechanic, that expectation immediately returned to me. I reckon I just wished to see Orga and Merribit together, and that ship replaced my original idea. But now that the road is blocked, I don't again see any future for poor Orga. He has got nothing tying him to the world, unlike Mika who has got a girl in both hands, so Orga can only serve as a stepping stone for Mika to gain his independence.
At this point it would be exceptionally difficult to anymore introduce a new woman to pair with Orga, so I can't see it happening. He's quite an empty vessel. It might be said he's married to his creation, Tekkadan, but that's pretty hollow. In the end he has ambition but his dream is shapeless and ambiguous, aside from pushing up all the time. He doesn't really know where he wants to go next, he just knows he needs to be going somewhere all the time. That isn't really the kind of crystal clear goal that renders everything else unnecessary.
Damn, that was such a shock that I can't think much of anything else that happened in the ep.
Orga will last till the final stretch of the story. Naze will surely die for him should something happen. I agree that Orga will remain loyal to Tekkadan and remain a bachelor. In hindsight I suppose it was a bit of a stretch to put Orga on the same level as Merribit in terms of experience. Her counselling has always been so one-sided that there's no room to return the affection.
Poor Orga ends up sacrificing his life for Tekkadan despite being alive.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
well if you say that naze is going to give his life for orga, then there is plenty of women for him to be paired with
No, there isn't. Merribit is the only woman he was in any contact with, aside from the already reserved ones. Naze dying could really happen, in the big battle that's upcoming, as it would automatically free Lafter. The rest of the women could, perhaps, join Tekkadan naturally as they are going to need all the experienced people they can get if they are supposed to basically form the defense forces of Mars after the independence.
Man, I can't easily get over this. In my honest opinion Orga would be better off dead for the greater cause than to continue like this till the old age. It would be so meaningless with the other people probably settling down. It was even verified the farm really is personally important to Mika.
Settling back on the farm once they're old wouldn't be so bad for Orga. He'd finally have Mika off his back and can stop plotting near-suicide missions just to move forward in life.
Mika might have two girls by his side, but I don't actually expect them to bear any fruit. All bonds pale in comparison to Mika x Orga in this story.
Orga can't die until a decent successor comes up. Eugene's the closest and he's not even half-baked.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
The successor doesn't need to be as crazy as Orga. In fact it would be better if they weren't. Orga being like he is was necessary considering they started from absolutely nothing, no, in fact they started from the negative due to all the initial lethal danger and challenges they faced. However, the successor could afford to be a bit more steady diplomat, politician, and bureaucrat with a long vision instead of a high risk gambler. When the successor inherits the position, Tekkadan ought to be stable and with a solid mission and path forward.
In fact I have no idea what Orga is going to do if he's still alive when things become stable. He might turn out to be detrimental to the organisation at that point. I don't think he can change his ways, yet his ways won't necessarily be anymore what Tekkadan needs in the future. If Mika retires to the farm, Orga will lose the weird driving force, but that could as well cause his collapse. If he had a family, he would still have something super imporant when that happens, but as things stand, he would have nothing. It would be better to see Orga's respected grave than a bitter drunkard Orga.
Eugene doesn't need to be crazy, but he needs to be able to read people better, as well as leverage politics. Orga isn't crazy be default. I can see him enjoying an easy life afterwards. He should feel relief without Mika complaining about how long their journey is.
I don't see him being a bitter drunkard at all.
The other good thing about Orga is that I don't see a woman being his undoing. As for Eugene... *cough*
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OrgaXMika with a sprinkle of girls on the side.
Peace.
Episode 35
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Let's hope the Mobile Armor kills that Iok bastard in the next episode already. People like that who are in high positions but bereft of a functional brain are annoying. It might be nice to see him incarcerated, but considering the current state of the society, there's no chance of that happening even if the AI robot killed a million people on Mars. So, it's better if he simply dies helplessly like a loser.
Other than that, when there's a button, you just have to press it, right?
if McGillis really isn't in it for the Order of the Seven Stars I wonder why he went there so urgently. I believe him when he said they were mistaken, but there's no other way to gain from this.
I've enjoyed the lack of New-Type introduction thus far. Don't ruin it.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
just watched episode 36, gotta admit that most of gundam series get boring by this time... unlike this one!
tough masked guy is the most boring and bland character, we still dont have a main villain for S2. the kids still get most of the time and rightfully so. they are bad ass and full of flaws, even when they are trying to do good they are just uninformed and most of the time out handed by their enemies and they still keep fighting.
they dont blame themselves for trying to do good and fail, they get angry like any of us would do and thats why i actually admire them and think this is one of the most "realistic" gundam series i watched (although i didnt watched that many)
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