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    I bet the boss gundam's power is to shut down other gundams...
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    Mika has a lot more experience fighting difficult opponents and Barbatos has mobile armour components integrated. Mobile armours were the ultimate enemy. Whom exactly did Ein and Vidar fight to get so good? I still think Mika should be better. At least this show is one where the pilot's skills matter, unlike some other, lesser Gundam shows where its all about the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neocyber
    Guess we'll see later. It seems McGillis said something bout a similar research being done because of Ein? So perhaps he too has something like that.
    Yeah, I'm not sure. I listened to that line again and the subs seemed wrong. I agree with you that it was something like:

    -I used Ein to develop a system
    -You two are now using said similar system
    -Oh, fate!

    The fact that final boss Gundam has the "soul" of the original fellow suggests that McGillis will do something similar as well. Mika will just solo this shit like he normally does. Maybe what'll happen is that he becomes fully integrated into Barbatos, such that he'll die if he disconnects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Wasn't Ein the dude from Mars (or at least the Mars branch of Gjallarhorn) whom McGillis took with him, outwardly as an ally and to help him advance in the ranks, but in reality he needed a tool he could use in experiements (Ein ended up more a machine, less a man towards the end of the first season) and sacrifice. Vidar was his bro in the new family, the other brat in the flashbacks (Gaelio). He didn't view kindly slaying that fool Carta Issue, among other things. I don't actually exactly remember what happened to him at the end of the first season. Was he just allowed to flee or something?
    ohhhhhhhh right right, ein was the simple dude from mars that his superior was killed by mika on the first/second episode episode that ended being just a machine because he was paralyzed or something.

    gaelio was the other dude that came to save carta and ended up blowing with her or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Mika has a lot more experience fighting difficult opponents and Barbatos has mobile armour components integrated. Mobile armours were the ultimate enemy. Whom exactly did Ein and Vidar fight to get so good? I still think Mika should be better. At least this show is one where the pilot's skills matter, unlike some other, lesser Gundam shows where its all about the frame.
    I guess it's just that much faster and has better reaction speed and maneuverability.
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    Episode 44



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    I feel a bit sorry for McGillis's loli bride. I can't feel fully sorry for her because in the end she was born and grew up in a Gjallarhorn top family, which is the most exlusive and privileged position imaginable in that universe, and thus it has to have its downsides as well. Kind of like a dictator's family has to live knowing that one day an angry mob can summarily execute them, if given a chance.

    Not much to say about this ep. It was very much a in-between episode, with the real deal starting next. It was good that Orga got pissed off to the point of punching McGillis. Clearly McGillis hadn't bothered to keep Orga entirely updated, nor to reveal to him alternate scenarios. I hope McGillis won't try to betray Tekkadan, at the very least.

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    As a build up episode this was done nicely (as opposed to being a drawn-out, "wait till next week" episode).
    They've set up for Orga to finally step down or share responsibility amongst Tekkadan, and cleared up exactly the position and desires of each party.

    It seemed rather flimsy of McGillis to rely on a symbol to draw loyalty from other prominent members. None of them were first generation g'horners. They don't personally owe loyalty to the Founder.

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    Symbols are everything to McGillis. Especially symbols of power and authority. Thought it was a bit stupid that he didn't think that others might not share that belief. Not all the way anyway since they are remaining neutral in this matter instead of blindly following him.

    Pretty sure he will be the end boss. I mean he'd take over Gjallarhorn but that would place Tekkadan as the rulers of Mars. Guess he'd try and take them down to 'prevent' corruption.

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    Wait, you guys really think McGillis was surprised this didn't work? Of course he understood it likely wouldn't. Why else would he employ Tekkadan as a private army? He is just pretending for Orga's benefit.
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    He accepted a pretty high risk to obtain that machine, due to the surgery needed. Surgery performed on an adult only once before, at least in their time, and even with children it often fails, leaving behind a cripple. I don't think he did it only for the sake of getting a nice Gundam frame since in this show there's less Gundam worship than in most Gundam shows (that I've seen, anyway). Whilst it's true he might have suspected the other leaders might not blindly follow him, he still needed some symbol for claiming the supreme leadership. After all, he wouldn't have otherwise had any grounds for this little coup. Now this is equivalent to some usurper claiming he's in fact the bastard son of a king and thus entitled to the crown.

    He already needed Tekkadan even before the upcoming big battle. He needed to seize key positions on Earth and secure the orbit. His own troops weren't enough.

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    Wasn't all the experiments he did for the sake of raising the success rate of his own surgery so he can pilot that gundam? I don't think a schemer like him would just randomly entrust his life to a shoddy procedure.
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    He intends to take over the world. I'd say he's willing to risk something. A single (successful) experiment doesn't seem like much to me.

    He indeed did it only to be able to pilot that Gundam, that's not what I meant. I meant that particular Gundam stands for more than just its capability in a fight. Even if it's symbolic, it's still the vehicle of the leader of Gjallarhorn. That's why it was worth it to risk the surgery. He wouldn't likely have risked it for some random, noname Gundam equipped with the neural interface system. Even now he did at least succeed at making those couple of geezers neutral.

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    Well of course he wanted, even needed, a symbol. He said it himself.

    What I was arguing is that he isn't really surprised that not everyone just suddenly supported him. He knew and was okay with the backlash. Now he just needs to win this battle and he can become king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Symbols are everything to McGillis. Especially symbols of power and authority. Thought it was a bit stupid that he didn't think that others might not share that belief. Not all the way anyway since they are remaining neutral in this matter instead of blindly following him.
    I get that McGillis want's a symbol. What I'm saying is exactly what you're saying - that he thought others would follow him just because of said symbol seemed stupid of him.

    @shinta: he is genuinely surprised that people are defying Bael. See 13mins into the ep or so. He knows he just has to show Bael's military might to remind them, but he didn't expect to actually have to do it.

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    He was pissed it didn't go according to the best case scenario, but it's hard to believe someone who planned all that can't foresee this neutrality stance. It might even be an act to imply to the other stars just how absurd going against Bael is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    that he thought others would follow him just because of said symbol seemed stupid of him.
    It's an organisation that allowed a blistering idiot like Iok to command a fleet of ships, just because he happened to be born the heir of the family. So, it's not altogether impossible someone managing to obtain the sceptre of the king would be allowed to assume the throne. However, it was naturally balanced by the other leaders' personal greed and hunger for power. I'd indeed say McGillis was acting a lot of his great surprise. He would have needed for Tekkadan's sake alone, since fighting against Gjallarhorn's greatest armada wasn't a part of the deal originally. Plus in order to justify his coup, he at least needs to look like he himself believes simply possessing Bael grants the position of supreme leadership.

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    Episode 45


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    First time during this long show, but I'm disappointed in Mika. How come he can't get rid of that one brainwashed bitch? The dude who more or less singlehandedly defeated the mobile armor, yet he can't win against a person not even using the Alaja-Vijanana system. That's just pure bullshit, and it's only happening so that the plot can keep Mika away from the battle. Quite weak, quite weak indeed.

    Rustal is a funny guy: He knows he's going to be the dictator if he wins the war, so he goes all out with the forbidden weapons. After all, he can shut any mouths after the war. It's a huge pity McGillis didn't seem to have any contingency plans whatsoever. I totally expected him to have some aces up his sleeve when he couldn't win everyone on his side with the symbol of power, but it turns out he was just an idiot, despite all his plotting. After all, if he still did possess some kind of a Plan B, he should have used it before things got this bad. Unless his plan is to have everybody die...

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    is it just me or does orga's plans are allways the same?

    full head on with the decoy ship in the front and the real target on the back?

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    They should've added one more unit to fight Mika to make this believable. This episode was executed badly compared to the rest so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    First time during this long show, but I'm disappointed in Mika. How come he can't get rid of that one brainwashed bitch? The dude who more or less singlehandedly defeated the mobile armor, yet he can't win against a person not even using the Alaja-Vijanana system. That's just pure bullshit, and it's only happening so that the plot can keep Mika away from the battle. Quite weak, quite weak indeed.
    Yes. This.

    Like.. what the actual fuck? Mike has no equal right now besides Galileo and Bael. If you really want to pin Mika down without those two units, your only other option is to barrage him with railguns.

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