MSG Iron-Blooded Orphans - G-Tekketsu

[Kraco]

Episode 39



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Gjallarhorn really needs to be torn down. The fact someone like Iok can be in a high position is the best example of how rotten and corrupt that organisation is.

I'll be really sad if Lafter dies. There was a huge death flag hanging over the whole Turbines crew, so who can say what could happen. If Iok has poor Lafter killed, nothing else but the annihilation of Iok's whole clan will satisfy me. Somehow it has to be ensured those degenerate people can't produce another giant idiot like that.

It's always a pleasure to see Mika meeting anybody. He never gives a shit about anything. And, man, comparing a baby to a ham. It'd be hard to believe he wasn't trying to troll Atra, just a little bit.

I'd like to see Orga pull off a plan of his own this time. Of late he has mainly been reacting and following suggestions by other people. It would be the time for another big gamble.

[shinta|hikari]

Orga disobeying Naze's wishes yet still getting a win for both the Turbines and Tekkadan is the best resolution to this arc. If anyone has to die, I hope it is Naze's tanned bodyguard waifu.

[Buffalobiian]

Naze and hot wife will either live together or die together. As things stand now I think death is more likely.

What I don't get is why he "took" a banned weapon only to frame someone else with it. Certainly if he gets caught he'd be in much deeper shit since he knows exactly what it is.

[Kraco]

What I don't get is why he "took" a banned weapon only to frame someone else with it. Certainly if he gets caught he'd be in much deeper shit since he knows exactly what it is.

Hmm... I was going to write here a post badmouthing Iok, but I'm not anymore sure who you are talking about. You make it sound like you think Naze accepted a banned weapon (from Iok) and was planning to frame someone with it, huh.

[Buffalobiian]

Iok took something out of warehouse 4 (A banned weapon).
He caught Naze carrying the Tekkadan weapon (A banned weapon).

Why take out a banned weapon, to then apprehend someone else for carrying the same class of weapon?

It'd make sense if Iok was framing Naze by framing him but that wasn't necessary at all. Iok wasn't going into combat. Holding onto something illegal doesn't look good when you're calling out a civilian for doing the same thing.

[Kraco]

I thought Iok used the banned weapons he took from the warehouse to frame Naze. Was Naze still carrying more of those weapons he already delivered to Tekkadan? Especially considering the ammunition Tekkadan used apparently wasn't banned, which made the Tekkadan weapon to stay in the gray area. Kind of like having a big ballistic missile normally reserved for a nuclear warhead equipped with a conventional warhead. Naze, however, gave up because he reckoned there's nothing he could do to prove the weapons weren't originally his but were planted there by the very inspection team.

But I don't know. Maybe you are correct and I misunderstood the episode.

Maybe Orga could move in to arrest Iok in the name of the Mars regional government to charge him with the crime of trying to eradicate a civilian city on Mars using the Mobile Armor. That would be more than justified.

[shinta|hikari]

Do others (that would matter in this context) even know that Iok brought along a banned weapon?

[Kraco]

I suppose anyone would need to be keeping an eye on him to learn of it or something would need to happen to launch an inspection. Otherwise in the military you can't even get a pair of gloves without leaving a record, so certainly anyone with any significant power would learn of it if they had a reason to check. McGillis got to know it immediately, but that's probably because his people are observing an enemy, that is, Iok.

However, Gjallarhorn is corrupt through and through, so if something shitty happened, I wouldn't find it strange if someone altered the records to indicate those particular weapons had already been scrapped a year earlier.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 40

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Iok was funny maybe 5 episodes ago. Now he just needs to die.

Orga himself still looked pretty pathetic even if he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Mika likely hadn't heard about this secret operation of Akihiro's, but that was a look of doubt on his face if I ever saw it.

Mika forming his own ideas and growing independent would be kind of novel, but having the duo spearhead Tekkadan would still be the entertainment of choice. We don't need Mika forming ideas about Orga's suspect leadership. We just need Orga to pull his shit together. More often than not he should just do whatever he feels like, because that's how Tekkadan feels. Using his head actually disconnects him from his troops.

[NeoCybercoin]

Man, I really hope that fucker Iok is dead. I seriously have nothing but hate for those types of people. Just idiots. Despite being a heavy episode, ( for me anyway ) I did laugh at Akihiro's wondering why she would strangle him.

[KrayZ33]

Orga himself still looked pretty pathetic even if he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Mika likely hadn't heard about this secret operation of Akihiro's, but that was a look of doubt on his face if I ever saw it.

Mika forming his own ideas and growing independent would be kind of novel, but having the duo spearhead Tekkadan would still be the entertainment of choice. We don't need Mika forming ideas about Orga's suspect leadership. We just need Orga to pull his shit together. More often than not he should just do whatever he feels like, because that's how Tekkadan feels. Using his head actually disconnects him from his troops.

That's a super unfair thing to say, Orga and Tekkadan themselves never went against *insane* odds.

The Turbines, a group several 100 times larger (50k+ members) than themselves with more military power and supplies overall had to disband in hopes to not get crushed and wiped off entirely.
On top of that, just going for it would've meant forsaking all his allies because they wouldn't want to go to war with Gjallarhorn yet.

I mean, we can't point out/at "plot armor" whenever it shows up and then critizise MCs when they are not wearing it .

[shinta|hikari]

What they should've done is record the battle details and send it to the surviving members, thus giving the media fodder for Gjallarhjorn bashing news. Ignoring cease fire and surrender flares is like the height of inhumanity.

[ForteCross]

I suppose anyone would need to be keeping an eye on him to learn of it or something would need to happen to launch an inspection. Otherwise in the military you can't even get a pair of gloves without leaving a record, so certainly anyone with any significant power would learn of it if they had a reason to check. McGillis got to know it immediately, but that's probably because his people are observing an enemy, that is, Iok.

However, Gjallarhorn is corrupt through and through, so if something shitty happened, I wouldn't find it strange if someone altered the records to indicate those particular weapons had already been scrapped a year earlier.

this all depends on how much corrupt the organization is, and your ranking ofcourse... even in today standards the higher the rank the more you can make people look the other way... and from our understanding Gjallarhorn is not an army like the modern ones but more like an army from an imperialistic era where a rank is mostly given by your family name instead of your own merits, so most of the higher ranks are not more loyal and dont have more military experience, on the other hand they might have better education because of richer families...

Iok for example is a spoiled brat that has a higher rank because of his "family name" (and thats why he is so close minded in preserving his family name honor)

Episode 32

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"Good for you. Seems like you're decent."

That was the shit. The redemption played out like I had in mind. (just found out I stuffed up the naming in my previous posts. I should just stick with bro-kid and debris-kid).

Lafter x Akihiro is sorely needed. Maybe Turbine needs to die, as cool as he is. That's the only way for Orga / Lafter to move on since there's no way they'd betray him (In terms of Orga surpassing him politically, and Lafter going for someone else romantically).

welp, buffalo called it 2 months ago... now orga can get a higher rank on taiwaz and lafter can marry akihiro...

i too think that orga is losing his edge, maybe this will teach him to man up and be back on track. on the other hand akihiro and the other guy grown up as characters with this seemingly pacific strategic.

wishfully thinking:
1) the turbines get swollen up by tekkadan, orga growing in power and thus the plan of that traitor back fires in his face
2) the turbines dont get disbanded and a new leadership by both akihiro and lafter gets arranged

[Kraco]

Let's see what McGillis has in mind. It could be that Orga (and Mika) will have plenty of easy opportunities for a payback. Orga might simply be unable to operate when things are too orderly, right now when they can't afford to make big moves due to both Teiwaz and Gjallarhorn. He's not exactly well-schooled or experienced in working under formal situations. He's just a street kid. However, if things get more chaotic, I'm pretty sure Orga still has what it takes when he doesn't need to worry about complications.

I'm just happy Lafter survived, even if she's going to strangle Akihiro.

[Kraco]

Episode 41



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It's such a damn shame that it took Lafter's life for Orga to finally get over himself and return to what he used to be. Poor Akihiro. This is the most anti-romance Gundam I've seen so far. But of course that is doing fine job painting this Gundam's world in really desolate colours, as is appropriate for such a shitty place. It's hard to enjoy the funny scenes like Mika and Atra's conversation with Lafter dead. But then again, this is going to make watching that backstabbing Teiwaz member and Iok dying all the more satisfying. Only smuggling a couple of mobile armors to the Gjallarhorn HQ and waking them up there would be even more soothing.

[Buffalobiian]

Oh shit.

I didn't see that coming. Even when they announced their "plan" I thought it'd be to kidnap them. How naive of me.

Orga's decision was also unexpected. After all of this he chose to lash out at Jasley, seemingly going back on all that Naze tried to teach him about keeping his family safe.

I think he's basically chosen the worse decision so far.

That is, he should have jumped in last week to save Naze. Now that they've already incurred losses, what's one more Lafter? After all the lives you've lost to keep Tekkadan safe, you're going all in anyway.

Make no mistake, I'm all for Orga being true to himself and keeping up the "nobody fucks with us" attitude. But logically it's a shit move.




edit: also, logically, Atra should totally have Mika's baby. Like.. before he dies.

[Kraco]

It's not logically a shitty move. It's even far less ambiguous than would have been to go all out to help Naze. Naze was fighting against Gjallarhorn, now they will be fighting merely against a traitorous part of Teiwaz. You can't allow yourself to be pushed around among gangsters unless you want to become a gofer. Government is a totally different thing, one that should be avoided.

[Buffalobiian]

They're going against Jasley and whoever sides with him, and there appears to be a few higher powers. It's also logically a shitty move because there's nothing to gain from it besides revenge. The cost of said revenge will be x number of lives, as well as their relationship and benefits within Teiwaz. At least they could have saved Naze when they gambled on the previous mission.

The only real thing to gain is morale.

Jasley is pulling in Iok, and Orga knows that too. That's why he's calling McGillis for help.

I just imagined them tying up Jasley at the bridge, then having Tekkadan all punch him one at a time, followed probably by Turbines. Not that they all got a turn, but whatever.

[Kraco]

They know Jasley got rid of Naze, and now it's their turn. Following your logic they would just observe from the side as Jasley assassinates all the girls who were in contact with Tekkadan, and then begins to work on the Tekkadan itself and their associates in the same manner. Kuudelia might be pretty high on the list. You'd have them do nothing?

[KrayZ33]

How is there nothing to gain for Tekkadan, they are fighting the forces that try to keep them down.

This time, they can actually do it without facing annihilation. Because they are backed up by a fraction of the goverment... unlike before, which would've made them outlaws no matter what.