I've been on this fourm for a few years now and have rarely posted but felt like I should right now. More of a whim than anything . Iron Blooded Orphans is not just one the best Gundam series, it's one of the best stories I've ever herd. Mikazuki Augus, I think I'll remember that name years from now. I've already forgotten SEED, almost completely.
Definitely one of the best Gundam shows. The best for me.
Yeah, it was a good show.
I'm not entirely sure what to think of this ending. It's annoyingly realistic. I'm okay with the MCs dying, especially when Mika left behind a kid, and I'm certainly happy Iok and Nobliss died, but otherwise this simply gave the feeling that in the world the strong win, regardless of who is right or whose actions are justified. Rustal didn't found a military dictatorship, which is of course good, but otherwise he was a totally moralless and unscrupulous person, so seeing him as the first leader of the new order, even if it was more democratic than the old one, still feels the same as how the Eastern Europe was left to be raped by the Soviet Union after the WW2. Thus we had Kuudelia shaking hands with the man who ordered Mikazuki killed by using illegal weapons. There was absolutely nobody left who could have stopped Rustal anymore, so he could do whatever he wanted, like make himself the biggest hero. It would have been good if Kuudelia at least had erected a nice monument to Tekkadan in a public place. If Mars gained independence, it would be just the kind of thing they would do in reality. It's bullshit most of Mars would have bought Rustal's propaganda too deeply. A newly independent nation would need their own heroes.
history isnt wrote by who was right, only by those who where left...Originally Posted by Kraco
we all know that kudalia is just making the best of the situation, she knows that rustal ordered mikas execution but at the same time she know that this is the best deal she can get to mika's cause, in the end he fought for a new future and if kudelia thrown it away it would be meaningless.
this is by far the best possible ending in a gundam show, its not an heroic ending by the main characters where they conquer evil, but by standing to their own principals and dying for it they opened the way for a better future generation. they were the rebels that didnt got the chance to be corrupted by power and thus stayed true to their own purpose which is, like some people said already, more realistic.
akihiro is still one of the most developed side characters in a gundam show i ever saw, he looked like a generic muscle guy for the whole time but was rewared one the the most satisfying deaths in all time, killing iok by his own hands in the last second!
seems like the most devoted to tekkadan are still running in the shadows, under taiwaz wing maybe i hope?
anyone knows if we will be blessed with a new gundam movie ala gundam 00?
Idk why you all like this series so much. It was okay but not amazing. The ending of "everything went absolutely wrong and not the way it's supposed to at all, but hey the douche villain actually made everything just the way the main characters wanted" seems a bit too much of a Deus Ex Machina for me.
Although that ending definitely felt a bit rushed, I like how realistic it was. On the one hand, it's a bummer our protagonists didn't 'win', but on the other hand, any happily ever after would have been a cop out. A bittersweet ending for sure.
It was a bit odd that Rustal basically did what McGillis wanted to. There seemed to be nothing to hint he would do so--wasn't he a supporter of the status quo? A few more episodes to flesh out the events after the battle would have been nice.
One last thing: Ride totally gave me Setsuna flashbacks when I first saw him at the end there.
"You can never know everything, and part of what you know is always wrong. Perhaps even the most important part. A portion of wisdom lies in knowing that. A portion of courage lies in going on anyways."
I absolutely loved the realism of it. There wasn't a happy ending for everyone. Because not everyone from Tekkadan would accept what happened. Sure I would have loved to see a happy ending for all but there just wasn't one for Mika. Fighting has been al he has ever known. Only fitting for him to go out like that.
I'm okay without a happy ending, but I just don't see Rustal handing Mars over to Kudelia. Rustal is now the strongest man in the known universe, and has led the status quo of using media manipulation to hide the mass murder of civilians and using illegal weapons. There was nothing in the story to ever suggest him doing anything that does not continue effective oppression of the people.
No, I think Rustal doing this was logical enough. If you look at him, he was a man with no principles. It's kind of funny he wasn't that different from McGillis, he even told Julietta that he's one of the bad old men. However, there was one huge difference, which was keeping his head cool and not believing in ideals but believing in using ideals to his advantage. That's exactly like terrorist leaders can use ideals to make people kill themselves in suicide attacks for whatever reason, be it nationalism, political system, or religion. Rustal wanted two things: The restore Gjallarhorn to their place as the heroes of the Solar System (they had become that originally by defeating the faction that created the mobile armors), but over time they became corrupt through and through. As opposed to that, McGillis pretty much wanted to destroy Gjallarhorn. Rustal's second objective, of course, was to make himself the biggest hero of the new, reformed Gjallarhorn. For this reason he also needed big villains, which role McGillis and Tekkadan filled.
I never said Kuudelia isn't doing well now, even to the point of dealing with that scumbag Rustal. She's certainly doing her everything to build a better Mars and being successful at that. I just wish she had had the guts to give Tekkadan the honour and recognition those guys deserved. They fought and died for the same thing Kuudelia is now making better, after all. It's pitiful if the official truth even on Mars teaches Tekkadan was a bunch of opportunistic criminals. Tekkadan are the guys that saved a whole Martian city from a mobile armor that idiot Iok of Gjallarhorn carelessly woke up. Surely they are teaching that to children at Martian schools!
I wanted Rustal to die, preferably by an assassination planned by Kudelia, and for Julietta to succeed him and make a better world than one ruled by a corrupt, conniving old man.
I wanted Julietta to be beat up badly by Barbatos before Mika eventually succumbs to his wounds, or spares Julietta after realizing that he has already arrived at the destination with Orga.
I wanted a better ending than this.
Peace.
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