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    Agreed with Kray, those guys having been against Tekkadan from the start and now are trying to crush them. Nothing to gain? Hell, if Jasley goes then the old man would no problems giving Orga more power within Teiwaz. At least that's how I see it.

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    Thatīs where you keep hiding the Gundam-topic, sigh ;>

    Itīs shit that Lafter died. Really wanted to see Akihiro getting that girl ;/ Then again ... he made me furious in how he talked to Lafter during their "date". How dense can you be? The way Lafter was killed was good, though, it felt "heavy" because of how casually that assassin shot her.

    On the other hand, I think last episode was lackluster in its presentation. I feel like this anime has had much better dramatic scenes, but here Naze and his wife go out in a fashion and ... it just didnīt feel that dramatic. It IS dramatic in terms of its contents and plotwise, but the pure presentation of it felt too low-key. Dunno. I wanted more shouting, more tears, more bombast music, and stuff.

    Oh, and I still hate Mikazuki. The autist boy gets to have his own harem and girls asking him to impregnate them. Go die in a fire, chosen one ...

    Addendum: I really have to wonder what the end game for Tekkadan is. You guys called this the "anti-romance Gundam", and itīs kinda true. But itīs even worse: When so many heroes have their loved ones be taken away, it doesnīt just (literally) kill romance, it also create a grave, depp bitterness/sadness for those characters. How are they supposed to continue life, once all is said and done? My prime suspect for this seasonīs most dramatic death is Atra btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    They're going against Jasley and whoever sides with him, and there appears to be a few higher powers. It's also logically a shitty move because there's nothing to gain from it besides revenge. The cost of said revenge will be x number of lives, as well as their relationship and benefits within Teiwaz. At least they could have saved Naze when they gambled on the previous mission.

    The only real thing to gain is morale.

    Jasley is pulling in Iok, and Orga knows that too. That's why he's calling McGillis for help.

    I just imagined them tying up Jasley at the bridge, then having Tekkadan all punch him one at a time, followed probably by Turbines. Not that they all got a turn, but whatever.
    not only are they gaining the freedom of the turbines, which right now ARE part of the family. they might also win some ranks in taiwaz if they prove that jasley was the one that betrayed naze and are plotting of getting rid of the old man...

    also even if they dont stay under teiwaz anymore they are on the way to become kings of mars so both gjhalahorn and teiwaz should be interested on having tekkadan on their good side (god damn with those names >.>)

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    How are they supposed to continue life, once all is said and done? My prime suspect for this seasonīs most dramatic death is Atra btw.
    pls no! kill mikazuki before... its not like he is walking his way out anyway... even orga told him to "go all the away" against jasley, i believe mikazuki was asking how much power should he drain from the gundam thus making himself more crippled and orga mistook it as asking if he should or should not kill jasley's goons
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteCross View Post
    pls no! kill mikazuki before... its not like he is walking his way out anyway... even orga told him to "go all the away" against jasley, i believe mikazuki was asking how much power should he drain from the gundam thus making himself more crippled and orga mistook it as asking if he should or should not kill jasley's goons
    There's not much difference. If this is again the good old Orga, he won't go all weepy begging Mikazuki to take it easy. With all the deaths and one crisis after another, these guys should realise already that they are fighting for the next generation, not for themselves. They'll be lucky to have tombstones for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    They know Jasley got rid of Naze, and now it's their turn. Following your logic they would just observe from the side as Jasley assassinates all the girls who were in contact with Tekkadan, and then begins to work on the Tekkadan itself and their associates in the same manner. Kuudelia might be pretty high on the list. You'd have them do nothing?
    Depends on what you mean by "nothing". Now many Teiwaz members do you think can get assassinated before the old man does something? They're still under his care. One girl he might let slide. Now that he's clued in, any more would affect his reputation personally. You can also theoretically just take in the Turbines into Tekkadan. Then you won't be able to pick them off without declaring war on the whole ship.

    Kudelia would be high on the list indeed. How much balls does Jasley need to go for a target like that though? If he could do that, he'd just start a fight against Tekkadan already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Hell, if Jasley goes then the old man would no problems giving Orga more power within Teiwaz.
    No, that's not what Orga said in this episode. He explicitly said that now that he's declaring ware on Jasley he won't have a spot in Teiwaz anymore, regardless of whether he wins or loses this fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forte
    also even if they dont stay under teiwaz anymore they are on the way to become kings of mars so both gjhalahorn and teiwaz should be interested on having tekkadan on their good side (god damn with those names >.>)
    "King of Mars" is a promile McGillis made to them, should he win his way to the top of gjhalahorn. Should he win. If he doesn't, they're king of nothing. They will be a paramilitary group that is somewhat larger than they started. They've now bailed out of earth following the Earth Branch issue, and now have bailed out of Teiwaz too.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    pls no! kill mikazuki before... its not like he is walking his way out anyway... even orga told him to "go all the away" against jasley, i believe mikazuki was asking how much power should he drain from the gundam thus making himself more crippled and orga mistook it as asking if he should or should not kill jasley's goons
    Mika is asking if he needs to show any mercy to Teiwaz since that's what Tekkadan used to be a part of. He's not clued in to how to handle things politically so he's checking in with Orga. Mika doesn't ask about tapping into Gundam's power. He does that on an as-needed basis regardless of other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kray
    This time, they can actually do it without facing annihilation. Because they are backed up by a fraction of the goverment... unlike before, which would've made them outlaws no matter what.
    The whole "without facing annihilation" argument makes the most sense. The funny thing is they actually engaged in combat last episode anyway, albeit behind a "smoke screen". Realistically speaking they should be outlaws now already after that debacle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Depends on what you mean by "nothing". Now many Teiwaz members do you think can get assassinated before the old man does something? They're still under his care. One girl he might let slide. Now that he's clued in, any more would affect his reputation personally. You can also theoretically just take in the Turbines into Tekkadan. Then you won't be able to pick them off without declaring war on the whole ship.

    Kudelia would be high on the list indeed. How much balls does Jasley need to go for a target like that though? If he could do that, he'd just start a fight against Tekkadan already.
    No, Jasley likes Teiwaz so much that he plans to get rid of the old man and take it all for himself. Thus he won't start the straightforward war against Tekkadan, not while Tekkadan is still officially a part of Teiwaz. However, the old man is showing signs of being a weak leader who does't mind the branches fighting each others silently, so Jasley would be free to continue the clandestine methods of pissing off Tekkadan, knowing Tekkadan will respond more aggressively, giving Jasley the justification. Who knows if the old man really is so senile or maybe he's designing a trap for Jasley.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    The whole "without facing annihilation" argument makes the most sense. The funny thing is they actually engaged in combat last episode anyway, albeit behind a "smoke screen". Realistically speaking they should be outlaws now already after that debacle.
    Iok can't prove anything (without at the same time officially announcing he was using the forbidden weapons), and probably wouldn't care to try anyway considering he's just waiting for a chance to attack Tekkadan anyway. If he had made things official after the Turbines battle, he might have risked losing his position to fight Tekkadan. By not saying anything, he still maintains such a position.

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    Episode 42


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    Jasley got his just punishment. It was made better by Orga accepting the video call only to insult Jasley. I hope Jasley realised before dying that he was a fool by trusting others to do his dirty work for him. If he wants to perform a coup, he has to do it himself, using his own power. It's a pity Iok wasn't there to share Jasley's fate, but he does pack some firepower commanding a whole fleet, so it might have resulted in some Tekkadan folks dying. Better fight them separately.

    I have been thinking so for a while, but it's kind of annoying the script write couldn't really come up with anything meaningful for Kuudelia to do ever since they left Earth. Of course this is concentrating to Tekkadan, so theoretically it could be possible Kuudelia has worked without sleep the same as everyone else, but we have seen none of it. Now we only see her when she's reacting to some Tekkadan stuff, yet she apparently won't ever play any real role in it. It would have been nice is she had orchestrated support for Tekkadan from Mars, or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
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    Jasley got his just punishment. It was made better by Orga accepting the video call only to insult Jasley. I hope Jasley realised before dying that he was a fool by trusting others to do his dirty work for him. If he wants to perform a coup, he has to do it himself, using his own power. It's a pity Iok wasn't there to share Jasley's fate, but he does pack some firepower commanding a whole fleet, so it might have resulted in some Tekkadan folks dying. Better fight them separately.

    I have been thinking so for a while, but it's kind of annoying the script write couldn't really come up with anything meaningful for Kuudelia to do ever since they left Earth. Of course this is concentrating to Tekkadan, so theoretically it could be possible Kuudelia has worked without sleep the same as everyone else, but we have seen none of it. Now we only see him when she's reacting to some Tekkadan stuff, yet she apparently won't ever play any real role in it. It would have been nice is she had orchestrated support for Tekkadan from Mars, or something.
    the episode was good, closing this mini arc and starting the next "level"...

    a small detail in the ending was mikazuki closing the other eye that orga does all the time to talk to him... was he trying to imitate him?

    by the way the repairs to the gundam... were parts of the gundam armor right? with the tail the claws...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    I have been thinking so for a while, but it's kind of annoying the script write couldn't really come up with anything meaningful for Kuudelia to do ever since they left Earth. Of course this is concentrating to Tekkadan, so theoretically it could be possible Kuudelia has worked without sleep the same as everyone else, but we have seen none of it. Now we only see him when she's reacting to some Tekkadan stuff, yet she apparently won't ever play any real role in it. It would have been nice is she had orchestrated support for Tekkadan from Mars, or something.
    She's playing an entirely different game altogether so I don't blame them. The entire last arc was about Tekkadan cutting ties with "unnecessary" organisations and finding themselves again as lone wolves, fighting for their own causes and non-other. Kudelia's been about reducing tariffs and making lives economically better for Martians (or something, I don't fully remember).

    I do think it's sad to see her off to the sidelines like this. With Gjallarhorn and Tekkadan performing revolution via arms though, there's no choice but for her to sit back and patch things up after they're done.

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    Unless McGillis is lying, Tekkadan should basically become the core of the armed forces of Mars. In that light it could have been nice if Kuudelia's role would have been to prepare Mars for that. Risky business, of course, considering Mars is under Gjallarhorn still, but why does Tekkadan need to be the one carrying all the risks? Kuudelia certainly wouldn't feel that's proper. We haven't really seen that deeply into the society on Mars, so would they give a single shit about who's the "King of Mars" as long as they can keep on living, but it would have given additional depth to the show.

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    So when Kudelia wants to renegotiate trade deals, she's a hero. But when Trump wants to do it, he's racist?

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    I like how Barbatos now has parts from the Mobile Armor. That battle took a lot from Mikazuki so it's only fair he'd take something back from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    I like how Barbatos now has parts from the Mobile Armor. That battle took a lot from Mikazuki so it's only fair he'd take something back from it.
    Not only that, but it ties with the theme about trading your humanity for further strength. Mika feels like he should have been born with a tail.

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    Episode 43


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    I wonder if McGillis really is obsessed with symbols of power far too much or if that new Gundam really is something super special. Remains to be seen. What comes to Vidar/Ein, I fail to see how a brain in a jar would be more safe from the backlash of the overdrive than a brain in a body. Or maybe they meant that Vidar's own brain won't suffer since only Ein's brain will slowly die, the more the system is used. Sounds like a system Iok would love: Huge benefits but someone else pays the price.

    The very last scene of the episode has McGillis's loli bride with blood on her hands. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what that's all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
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    I wonder if McGillis really is obsessed with symbols of power far too much or if that new Gundam really is something super special. Remains to be seen. What comes to Vidar/Ein, I fail to see how a brain in a jar would be more safe from the backlash of the overdrive than a brain in a body. Or maybe they meant that Vidar's own brain won't suffer since only Ein's brain will slowly die, the more the system is used. Sounds like a system Iok would love: Huge benefits but someone else pays the price.

    The very last scene of the episode has McGillis's loli bride with blood on her hands. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what that's all about.
    her killing his own father because she loves his husby...

    also did they suggested at child violation in this chapter? mcguillis was at a state of undress and all beaten up right next to a sleeping man that should be "his new daddy", wth?

    also i seem to be missing the point with vidar/ein... i remember ein getting beated to death by mcguillis, but the other one...? was he a new character who was also a brother of mcguillis? weird plot was weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteCross View Post
    also did they suggested at child violation in this chapter? mcguillis was at a state of undress and all beaten up right next to a sleeping man that should be "his new daddy", wth?
    It seems to me his whole earlier childhood was such: He was forced to sell himself to get something to eat, among other things, like killing people. His new daddy likely met him first due to such circumstances, or due to some gang connections, and ended up adopting him as a son with benefits disadvantages...

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteCross View Post
    also i seem to be missing the point with vidar/ein... i remember ein getting beated to death by mcguillis, but the other one...? was he a new character who was also a brother of mcguillis? weird plot was weird
    Wasn't Ein the dude from Mars (or at least the Mars branch of Gjallarhorn) whom McGillis took with him, outwardly as an ally and to help him advance in the ranks, but in reality he needed a tool he could use in experiements (Ein ended up more a machine, less a man towards the end of the first season) and sacrifice. Vidar was his bro in the new family, the other brat in the flashbacks (Gaelio). He didn't view kindly slaying that fool Carta Issue, among other things. I don't actually exactly remember what happened to him at the end of the first season. Was he just allowed to flee or something?

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    McGillis killed him, but let's face it, this is made by Sunrise.
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    Death in one season but a mysterious masked man in the next is kinda their thing. Gaelio using Ein to take most of the strain wasn't that bad of an idea. Maybe he's stronger than Mika because Mika still has a body that works. Well half of it unless hooked to the suit. Barbatos has already taken a bunch of space in order for Mika to be better. Ein over here IS a brain so that should give Gaelio full access. Guess we'll see later. It seems McGillis said something bout a similar research being done because of Ein? So perhaps he too has something like that.

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