But doesn't that inherently mean she doesn't understand what love and friendliness actually is? She knows what she thought was affection, but the first time she experienced it genuinely, it was from Adlet.
She knows what insincere, fake affection looks like.
That's why Hans is getting confused. She's showing friendliness that he reads as false, because that's the only kind of affection Flamie knows.
This makes my brain hurt.
I.. don't think you can call signs of affections as fake or whatever based on those signs in and of themselves. I don't get your last part Ryll. You either show friendliness because you mean it, or you show friendliness because of secondary gains. The reason behind it doesn't affect how well done your friendliness is.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Listen to Hans' lines again as Adlet walks away to go meet Flamie.
Figure the rest out yourself. I'm not explaining it again.
The real trick is that there's no barrier.
Had completely forgotten the scene in which they check if they're trapped.
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I don't think it looked insincere and fake back when she was still living it. That's why she can't trust anything anymore. It's not a matter of recognizing something as real or fake, it's a matter of recognizing everything (erroneously) as deceit, which also includes Adlet for now. She can't trust him yet, just like she said. However, I'm happy it looks like she's giving Adlet a chance here. That means she still misses the happy times, even if she knows they were ultimately false back then. She must still possess hope that the real deal could happen. As expected from someone as cute as Flamie!Originally Posted by Ryllharu
Also, I don't care about Hans' lines. Why would he know anything about Flamie? He's just thinking she's the same as he is, but that's not obviously true.
HS - Episode 10
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Jumping onto the Flamie train now. Fuck mentally unstable chicks.
I'm sure Adlet being the strongest average man in the world would be able to turn her around, but I'm scarred already.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I'm really beginning to wonder how this bunch was supposed to defeat the demon king in the first place. You only needed to lock 'em up, and in a day they are ready to kill each other. Even if we forget Maura who's even more hell bent on seeing corpses than a homicidal lunatics like Hans or Chamot. The fiend we saw in the flashback visiting Adlet's village was more civilized than this bunch.
Despite everything I'm happy about the development between Adlet and Flamie. Hans was totally wrong about Flamie, it seems, which is something I expected. He hadn't spent any time with her, so what would he know? Looking at this bunch of braves, I'd say Flamie wasn't even scarred by the period when she was hunting brave candidates. If they were all as crazy as the group we see now, it was akin to hunting criminals, which doesn't necessarily mar a person so much.
I wonder if the previous generations of heroes were as emotionally unstable as this bunch, or if the true mastery of the Demon God's planning is that the poor Goddess has to scrape the bottom of the barrel this time around, finding bloodthirsty killers, psychopaths, and silver-tongued manipulators. When the most sane and rational person on your team is a contract assassin, something's clearly wrong.
I guess Goldov hasn't been kotowing to Bunny-hime purely out of loyalty. Apparently much of that is actually fear.
Maura's lines of dialogue were beautifully constructed. Her accusation to Adlet still neither confirms or absolves her of being the Seventh. She legitimately believes that even she will start to fall for Adlet's words if he's allowed to continue speaking long enough. You can take that line both ways!
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Man...bunny-hime is unstable as fuck.
Flamie got conquered.
Uh, did Adlet really say I love you? I'm thinking he said "I like you" and Flamie misunderstood, or maybe he did say that and Flamie misunderstood the other way.
Peace.
See, I don't know if he actually lied about that or not, because if the truth comes out that he actually likes Yan-bunny or something, shit would go crazy all over again.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
From what we know so far:
Adlet, Hans, and Flamie are the only one that we can for sure rule out right?
Anyways, I still think that the biggest trick that's making these people look like morons is the existence of a barrier at all. I mean, has any of them bothered to check if they're actually trapped?
@Buff:
If you think about it, Flamie would definitely be the one of the two he actually likes/loves.
- All Bunny-hime has ever done is lie to him and trick him. He knows surprisingly little about her despite how much they've talked. The only things she's "admitted" are the things everyone in her kingdom knows about her. The first time they met she was deceiving him.
- On the other hand, despite how much she claimed not to trust people anymore, despite her protestations that she doesn't care about anything anymore, Flamie has been nothing but forthcoming and honest about her past, her thoughts, her fears, etc. He's never really had to pry, he's honest with her and she talks to him back.
Flamie and Adlet are similar, both have lost everything and declared they would live for revenge. Adlet just told her now that that is a foolhardy purpose and not worth it. Going with his viewpoint of always smiling no matter how tough things are and being honest, he trusts her when no one else will and so far she's reciprocated.
Bunny-hime has done nothing but deceive or doubt Adlet in response. She's claimed she's not that experienced fighting (outright lie and he knows it), leaves out information left and right, didn't trust and support him when asked when he stated firmly that Flamie was innocent, and so on.
@Munsu:
Hans and Adlet both tested it extensively in an earlier episode. Any direction they run, they are turned back onto themselves.
I completely forgot about that scene honestly. I recall that at the time I wasn't sure what they were trying to do, so didn't pay much attention to it. But yeah, had completely forgotten about that.
It does seems a bit strange how quickly they managed to check the full extent of the barrier, yet the travelling that occurred during the Adlet chase seems to indicate that the territory is more expansive. Whatever, moving on.
Edit: Just noticed that ANIDB is listing this series as 12 episodes long, so 2 more episodes it seems if that's correct. Seems like we won't go beyond solving this mystery unless it gets a sequel or such.
Not sure how much of the source material this covers though.
So it seems we have 1 episode of Nachetanya going berserk and another episode of resolution left with figuring out the culprit (which might be Nachetanya herself, but who knows).
I think in the end it'll either have to be Nachetanya or Goldov, since that's the only drama I see working from an allegiance perspective. Maura to me seems like pure misdirection at this point. But we'll see. It's one of those 3 in my opinion.
Personally I'd love to see one of these three scenarios:
1) A hero gets killed after being mistaken as the fake.
2) There's no fake, yet someone suffers for it.
3) There's a fake, but character is unaware of it... hence not an enemy.
Not sure if it'll go that way.
By the way, who was the character that suggested that once a Brave gets killed a petal disappears? Is this an accepted truth, or are they simply working under the assumption that the person who said that is being upfront?
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I'm expecting:
4) They find a way to lift the barrier and continue towards the demon god's territory without knowing who the fake is.
5) Adlet gives up on killing the demon god because his allies are such crazies and dipshits and takes Flamie on a honeymoon trip around the world.
Peace.
If they weren't all so bloodthirsty maniacs, aside from Adlet, that's what they would have tried to do already. Following Hans, Maura, Chamot, and others, they would have killed who they believed was the Seventh (Adlet), then the next one, and the next one, but likely would have stopped at some point finally finding it pointless. Then the remaining braves would have sit inside the barrier till they died of old age, all self-satisfied.
I'm still thinking the goddess could be the seventh but isn't aware she is.I counted the petals on Flamie's hat, but only,five... She would be a nice candidate.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Episode 11 - HS
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I feel like a bit stronger foreshadowing would have benefitted this. I didn't even remember there was a sun saint. Plus more than "luck is a skill and the strongest man in the world has maxed all the skills". It sounds quite hollow when said by a man on the verge of death. Although on the other hand when it's said by a weak idiot, it does sounds believable because he isn't quite dead yet. There must have been a better way than to just guess the location of the corpse perfectly. The area wasn't that small. If the corpse had been tossed into a hole in the ground and covered, they would have never found it. This was too convenient, even after the fancy theory. I have no problems with the fog itself. That was a good move.
Adlet made a good choice with the girls. Flamie might be a kuudere (actually that's only a good thing), but the bunny princess is crazy.
Too many things for the sake of convenience occurred, particularly with the body. It was a bit ridiculous. The fog theory was alright by me, but I'm with you... some more foreshadowing would've been prudent. Hans and Chamot running around instead of sticking to the temple I'm not sure what that was all about...
And then when Adlet made it to the temple, before he made any realization, he suddenly started running away from it for no good reason. Nachetanya was going to get to him one way or another, so curious why he didn't search for Hans in that area harder.
Nachetanya was very very poorly handled in the last few episodes, the way she went overboard crazy just doesn't quite make sense. But whatever. Action was solid and entertaining as always.
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