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    @shinta:
    She's an expert at Empire garden party politics and love because she's a princess of the Empire. That's her area of expertise, despite having the Rose Knights and all that. They're not really good fighters, but are good at riding around on horses.

    She's dumb about pretty much everything else.

    @MFauli:
    No, he's not. Zolzal only cares about honor and pride, the same way Pina does. Except he doesn't want to make peace with Japan, he wants to make them leave by being annoying. He's the equivalent to Middle East insurgencies. Pina is the equivalent to something like post-war Japan.

    He's an idiot, has no clue what's going on, and doesn't realize that Japan will break them economically either. He's being convinced by Tyuule that the insurgency strategy is good so she can accomplish her own ends.

    Only the Emperor started to realize what Japan could do to them. He already used them to ensure the Empire was back on a level playing field with their equivalents. He doesn't want peace, but knows he has little choice. The difference is that he realized their kind of politics can put them on even ground with Japan at the negotiating table, since they can't compete on the war table.

    - Zolzal is too stupid to understand what his father said.
    - Tyuule understood it perfectly.
    - Pina is too innocent to understand it fully.

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    I was thinking that was the case as I was writing that. She really is just a poser.
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    I disagree with Zolzal being an idiot. Not being as smart as somebody else doesnīt account for being an idiot. Iīve explained multiple times why he is not an idiot.

    Tyuule is certainly a lot smarter than him. But she is caught up in her fruitless revenge fantasy and pretty much powerless.

    It all comes down to: What kinda world do we (people of the Empire) want to live in? The one we created, or the one those new outsiders are forcing upon us?

    Zolzal is proud, yes, and with good reason. But he is smart enough to realize that fighting wonīt get him anywhere.

    Weīre missing the following facts to make further conclusions:

    - will those plans work or not? pretending to be part of the JSDF and murder villagers)
    - is Delilah an even weaker bitch than expected and rattet out everything about Tyuule to the JSDF?
    - is Tyuule dead-set on revenge, or has she some emotion left for her people, for reason?

    Once we know the answer to those questions, further speculations make sense.

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    MFauli your entire argument relies on Tyuule havin somewhat equal power as Zolzal in this alliance. That's simply not true. Her power is directly proportional to how well she can suck cock (and other little tactical bonuses). If the empire wins, she's either a Queen if Zolzal is nice, or she's back to being slave bunny. Either way she's not his equal and is at the mercy of his whim. The only way she can secure power is if she births a new prince and kills Zolzal with that sneaky orc of hers.

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    Iīm sure Tyuule would come up with a plan to secure her power as the queen, once sheīs in. And you name one option yourself, although Iīd like to keep the Zolzal-killing out of it :>

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    The only way she can secure power is if she births a new prince .
    Tbh, I think Zolzal has never been in a situation where he had to think or show empathy before in his life. He has the small group of men that he cares for, but we donīt know to what extent he cares about them. But now that the JSDF has the upperhand, an unimaginable occurrence to Zolzal, heīs forced to change his attitude. He has changed slightly already, but heīs also far from having grown up, as his carefree reaction to the plans that his men proposed to him, proves.

    If he manages not get himself killed from some careless action for another 1-2 times, he might reach the level where he can work something out. Ideally in cooperation with Tyuule.

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    Zolzal needs to die. That's the only way she can keep in power. Without a prince, the throne line would just go back to the older brother. She needs a baby maintain influence as Queen.

    Even then I'm not confident Zolzal would even make her queen. Racism is pretty evident in the Empire. Humping bunny girl in your own castle is one thing. Having her by your side for all the Empire to see is another.

    Furry arms aren't that nice anyway.

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    Furry underarms. Ew.
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    A child would get Tyuule nowhere either.

    First of all, they'd have to be in an official relationship/ have married for the child to be recognized. If Zolzal dies after she bears his child, she'd have to wait 12+ years for it to become the ruler. In the meantime, all kind of things could happen to both her and the child.
    And in these 12 years, she's probably not in control either, because the child will have an appointed guardian, and that is most likely not Tyuule.

    But this should be irrelevant either way, because she clearly says that she wants to see the Empire burn.

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    Well, in most past kingdoms, a queen would take reign over the realm in the absence of a king, so I donīt see why that would be a problem. However, when I talk about Zolzal and Tyuule teaming up, I mean a truly honest relationship. I know that youīre gonna deny that thought, but I canīt help but feel that theyīd make a great couple - they just donīt know it. Itīs like when you had Vegeta, a cruel Saiyan prince, thinking about nothing but fighting, and Bulma, a pretty girl thatīs a genius scientist. They couldnīt have been further from each other, yet somehow they ended up together. Granted, Toriyama might not be the best source to show how reasonable coupling works, but still ...

    Itīs going back in circle, which is why Iīd like to wait for next episode before continuing this discussion, but as Iīve said before: Itīs all about coming up with an idea that has the Empire winning and the JSDF losing. And not necessarily in military opposition. Thatīs why I came up with Zolzal+Tyuule. If you have another idea how the Empire could get the JSDF to retreat, Iīd love to hear them!

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    I'm sure Vegeta just banged a son out of Bulma so he could compete with Goku on the 2nd-gen level. We all know Vegeta x Goku = best couple.

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    Why are we talking about Dragon Ball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Why are we talking about Dragon Ball?
    Better than talking about waki, i guess

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    No, waki is actually on topic. Speaking of which, there is a severe lack of it in this show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    No, waki is actually on topic. Speaking of which, there is a severe lack of it in this show.
    Even Itami doesn't dress Rambo style despite being spec ops, so he can't provide you with waki shots either.

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    I'm only interested in smooth, female loli waki. Rory needs to take Kuroneko's lead and wear a sleeveless shirt from time to time. I have to wonder when these girls do their laundry. They wear the same thing every single episode.
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    I have the same shirt 3 times too, don't judge me you bastard.

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    You mean you have 3 shirts that are exactly identical, and you wear them alternately everyday?
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    serious question @pervy shinta: does it count as waki when a girl is 100% naked?

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    You have to actually see the waki, but yes.

    Though it is more attractive if the exposure is inadvertent and not too blatant.
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    episode 20 is out
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    Just when you think this show couldnīt get any braindeader. And Iīd wish I was talking about "Captain Knight Beefeater".

    First of all, the death of both of her parents were meaningless. At least one of them could have gone with her. At first I thought theyīre both staying to pretend that everything is normal, but the cleaners found the secret passage anyway and drew the right assumption. And none of it was necessary, because the cleaners werenīt there to murder, but capture them.

    But thatīs not what this episode was about:

    SCREW international political relationships, BECAUSE PEDOPHILIA RULES!

    Fucking L O L!
    I donīt even know what to say about it. Just because Sugawara-hentai said heīd wait until she turns 16 doesnīt make it okay. Thatīs called "grooming". Anybody who approaches a 12 yo girl in our western society and tells the parents/police "but Iīm waiting till her 16th birthday, I swear!" will end up hospitalized or at least imprisoned.
    It is SO dumb. So dumb. Wah, I cannot express how dumb it was.
    When he first said "as a diplomat I cannot let personal feelings disrupt my duty", I expected him to tell that woman "I quit my job, please name a new diplomat!" and try to run away with Sherry. Still creepy, but slightly less creepy and immensely less irresponsible.

    So now, when the war beings, the reason for history text books will be: Because a Japanese guy wanted to bone a 12yo princess.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    Donīt even wanna go on about all the other shit, like, why did Sherry ever think itīd be difficulty to go inside the guarded area? Sheīs highsociety and they all know her. And wanna bet that NONE of those pretty ladyknights will die in battle? sigh.
    Oh well. Iīll leave it to Kraco and Shinta to defend this. Ok, Shinta doesnīt need to defend this, itīs his life dream come true, lol.

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