GATE: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri

[MFauli]

I can't express how much I have to cringe whenever I read your posts Mfauli.

"I WANT THEM TO PHUUUK"

Why are you being a douche? Don´t you see the significance between just teasing and going through with it?

Right now, Rory is bland fan-service, a walking trope. Basically, the worst of otaku culture.
Now if her character actually went on to have sex with one of the soldiers, say Itami, it would change the whole situation. She would no longer be this walking carrot stick for a virtual audience, but a defined, logical-in-herself person that behaves the way she does because of the actions and events she enjoys resulting from her persona.

Seriously, I could just search for h-pics, if all I cared about was echii scenes lol. That´s not what my postings are about.

[KrayZ33]

this is your run of a mill, girl tries to seduce MC but MC is scared situation.

So in the end you ask for Itami to do his move and not the other way around, or are you suggesting she should just go and rape him?

[MFauli]

this is your run of a mill, girl tries to seduce MC but MC is scared situation.

So in the end you ask for Itami to do his move and not the other way around, or are you suggesting she should just go and rape him?

How is this true?! We had one scene of her sitting on his lap, which obviously made him feel uncomfortable. There was no othere scene that displayed any sort of uneasiness being around Rory.

[shinta|hikari]

What you have to understand is:

If the author makes one of the leading ladies not a virgin, the fans will rape the author. See Kannagi.

[Ryllharu]

If the author makes one of the leading ladies not a virgin, the fans will rape the author. See Kannagi.

Depends entirely on the genre. Plenty of non-virgins in seinen, shoujo and josei.

[shinta|hikari]

Oh yeah. Correction: In the shounen genre...

[KrayZ33]

How is this true?! We had one scene of her sitting on his lap, which obviously made him feel uncomfortable. There was no othere scene that displayed any sort of uneasiness being around Rory.

I forgot, it's your first anime.

[MFauli]

I forgot, it's your first anime.

I´m judging each new anime on its own, not on what older anime did before.

[Edort4]

At first sight this show reminded me about Sengoku jieitai. I thought they would be going alone into that new world but I liked the idea of setting a foothold, permanent base, ressuplying and specially that its a constant connection between worlds. Sadly is an anime for teens so we dont get to see the "interesting" parts about this kind of two-worlds clash and it ignores all the real daily life consequences.

Still nice show I guess it will fall a bit more on fantasy as it progresses. Also it reminded me about a sci-fi short novel about how another species developed warp technology and tried to invade/raid earth. Sadly for them they were advanced in spacetravel but not in warfare and earth beat them mercileslly (thanks to the prowess mankind had learning how to kill each other). Then mankind steals warp technology and finds a "peaceful" (not so good/advanced at killing) galaxy to feed on.

[Kraco]

Episode 5 - HS




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This episode felt quite short, probably due to the fact it was missing most of the previous problems and, on the other hand, it had a clear, and interesting, destination the plot was obviously heading to. Not being a fan of flashbacks, I thought at first the origin of the princess and the order of the knights would annoy me, but in fact it was enlightening. The earlier scene where the rotten Emperor sent the princess on her way now made much more sense. I'd almost like to think the author did this on purpose, to make the princess a more plausible collaborator for the foreign forces. She wasn't beyond using the Japanese for her own purposes, but on the other hand she's willingly fighting for the town, risking her own life (or chastity, like she puts it herself). So, she's concerned about her country and its people, yet is a realistic pragmatist, even if a bit too green for the real deal. I don't see why the Japanese couldn't work with her easily enough.

The show finally decided it had enough of the language barrier. I don't particularly mind. While the inability to communicate was realistic, it was also a big hindrance to any meaningful character interaction.

The preview shows one of the newest Japanese military helicopters. What happened to sending only old technology to the other world, huh? Not that I'd really complain. It was stupid to begin with.

[Munsu]

Princess Piña Colada? Not sure the point of giving the character that name.

Anyways, not much tot this episode... next one should be much better.

[shinta|hikari]

Princess Piña Colada? Not sure the point of giving the character that name.

The same reason the loli was named Rory. This confirms that the author was intentionally joking around with the names.

Princess is by far the best girl. Aside from being the most developed (which begs the question why the 3 main heroines are paper figures at episode 5), she has the best waki. That uniform should become standard in their entire world. So is her sleeping posture.

[Munsu]

The same reason the loli was named Rory. This confirms that the author was intentionally joking around with the names.

Princess is by far the best girl. Aside from being the most developed (which begs the question why the 3 main heroines are paper figures at episode 5), she has the best waki. That uniform should become standard in their entire world. So is her sleeping posture.

Joking around aside (which I think it's unnecessary), Rory was more acceptable to me (really a non-issue) than Piña Colada that seems completely out of place. So not sure if it'll be tied to something later on (which I doubt).

I don't know, it stuck out like a sore thumb when I saw it, it hints at previous world interaction which I'm doubting is the case. But who knows.

[shinta|hikari]

You do know that if you're Japanese, Rory is Loli written in katakana, right? And this show (and the original LN) was written for a Japanese audience. In the same way that Loli is a non-issue to you, Pina Colada is likely a non-issue to most Japanese, who are used to drinking shochu, umeshu, and biru.

[Munsu]

You do know that if you're Japanese, Rory is Loli written in katakana, right? And this show (and the original LN) was written for a Japanese audience. In the same way that Loli is a non-issue to you, Pina Colada is likely a non-issue to most Japanese, who are used to drinking shochu, umeshu, and biru.

Yeah, that has nothing to do with anything I'm saying. It's much easier to suspend my disbelief that someone was named Rory in some parallel world than finding someone named Piña Colada.

[shinta|hikari]

If you mean it's a completely personal thing to you, then okay. My point was that Japanese people would see it the opposite way, and they are the target audience.

[Munsu]

If you mean it's a completely personal thing to you, then okay. My point was that Japanese people would see it the opposite way, and they are the target audience.

This has nothing to do with target audience. It's more about a parallel world and the chances of person named "Rory/Loli" vs. a person existing with a name like "Piña Colada". That's my point in all of this, from an angle of suspension of disbelief of the existence of that name at all in that world in particular in combination with each other.

Hope that clarifies it for you.

And not wanting to deviate from where I want to focus of what I'm saying, but if Japanese is the intended audience as you say, so with your argument that his name wouldn't stick out for them, then even less reason to introduce it I'd say no?

Anyways, this has more to do with suspension of disbelief of that type of name existing at all in that world than a word that's merely a four letter combination (two syllables, or two phonetic sounds).

Yes, there's the whole what a coincidence that this Gothic Lolita is named like that, but "coincidences" I can handle... just the other seems out of place in that world as it pertains the chances of it ever having natural origins.

I'll grant you this though, for the Japanese audience (and I'm not sure how aware Japanese people are of the drink Piña Colada, which is very popular around the world as it is), it might not break their suspension of disbelief as easy as it happened to me.

I still remain with the question of why? Why did the author find it necessary to use this name if it didn't serve a purpose? If it's for the pure fun of it, though I'd still find it unnecessary, I can roll with that. There's a good mix of fun and serious moments in this anime, but this one in particular might end up being a miss for me.

Anyways, much of a fuzz as I'm apparently making over it... it's really not that big of deal. Just a questionable choice, for now, by the author in my opinion. Nothing much more than that. I can live with it.

[Kraco]

Uhhuh... Suspension of disbelief was the first thing you should have left behind when watching this show. The author is no better writer than Terry Goodkind, yet unlike Goodkind, he somehow imagines he has a sense of humour. I bet he simply thought it would be terribly funny to name the princess Pina Colada, and that's it. It never must have visited his mind just how stupid it would look. But then again, seeing how the Emperor treated the poor girl, sending her and her knights on a likely suicide mission, I'd personally like to think the Emperor gave her a stupid name on purpose (ignoring the fact it's an alien world and also historically kind of too early for fancy, named drinks).

That being said, it didn't bother me overly much. If I let such a tiny thing bother me, I couldn't keep watching this for all the bigger problems.

[Edort4]

Great (and limited) minds think alike. Mediocre author writes a pun that works with mediocre audience. Dont read much more into it. So far is the worst I have seen in the show and thats an unexpected surprise. Gotta make do with what we have.

[MFauli]

We sure Rory is written "rori" in Japanese? From how Itami pronounces her name, I´d be inclined to write it "rouri" in Japanese (since the ro was drawn out, not as quickly pronounced as a "rori" would have me say).

Anyway, speaking of her, Rory was super hot this episode. Sucks that this isn´t the kind of show where the hero would ignore the obvious choice (the elf girl) and go for the self-aware, crazy goth loli. :>

Not sure why Itami didn´t just order 5 of his men to each gate. Then shoot the bandits (their shields won´t help) and throw a few grenade to round up things. Was a bit silly having to listen to his "we´re only 12" talk, when we know how much stronger the real world´s military is compared to some medieval guys.

Also, I hate that the enemy mage girl will somehow be spared and become an ally. That´s just my firm believe btw, not a spoiler. It´s just a bit predictable how every single cute girl with an elaborate design joins the hero. sigh