GATE: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri

[shinta|hikari]

Angel people? Aren't they bird people?

[Kraco]

This prince is the evil emperor's favourite for succession. Thus it makes sense he's as bad as his old man. Apparently the other prince might not be, but I can't remember him at all from the first season. The emperor and at least this prince are people corrupted by power, so good sides could be hard to find. At least he didn't kill the bunny. Our jolly princess has personally experienced poor treatment in her life, which is probably what made her the more reasonable person she is. Though on the other hand she had previously little power and influence, so perhaps she now views this as an opportunity to turn the tables using the unbeatable might of the Japanese to crack the empire's old power structure for her own benefit.

[Ryllharu]

Angel people? Aren't they bird people?

There are other, more obvious bird people, aren't there? The green-haired girl in the JSDF town is like a harpy or something. She actually has bird feet.

The angel people are more like Utawarerumono's. So...also bird people, but we can't call them Onkamiyamukai, can we?

After this episode, I'm starting to think the beastgirls might be the best part of Gate. Japan needs to import a bunch of them. Take in all the oppressed people, like the abused bunny-girl's. Better than seismometers! Their collective nervousness in the clinic was so adorable.

I'm also glad that Kurokawa is getting a bigger role. I like her VA and she barely registered last season, but even with the little we saw of her, she was much better than Butch psychopath-chan that got all the screen time. With the gag of her freaking out about Itami's military competence starting to get stale, she's really no use anymore.

[David75]

So there's racism. Not too surprising.
Regarding the earthquake, it should show the locals the JSDF isn't almighty. Which should allow some resistance to start using their wits and sting the jsdf a bit.

[shinta|hikari]

There are other, more obvious bird people, aren't there? The green-haired girl in the JSDF town is like a harpy or something. She actually has bird feet.

The angel people are more like Utawarerumono's. So...also bird people, but we can't call them Onkamiyamukai, can we?

I was trying to point out that Mfauli's expectation that these winged creatures should be more noble or whatever is completely unfounded in what has been shown so far.

[MFauli]

I was trying to point out that Mfauli's expectation that these winged creatures should be more noble or whatever is completely unfounded in what has been shown so far.

It´s a legit assumption, though. Especially since we have those harpy-girls, already.


Also, shinta, PLEEEEEASE make me a new sig :/
Maybe featuring the raped bunny girl? :P

[shinta|hikari]

It's an assumption with no real basis (as of yet). It's a world with beast people, so having wings doesn't necessarily mean angels. That's like saying because we have cat-eared people, rabbit-eared ones aren't mammals. There can be more than one winged beastmen race.

[Buffalobiian]

Should the SDF try to intervene in this sort of stuff, it´d lead to a GIGANTIC debate over morales and such. And it´d be weird and shitty tbh if the people of this fantasy world just accepted the "greater morales" of Japan/our world.

This is how I interpretted the scene:

Please don't!
Yeah!
No!
(pulls curtain down, that's their safe word)
You didn't last.

There's a power difference, but it was sort of consensual.

Also: What exactly was that angel whore´s solution to unwanted pregnancy prior to getting the pill from the SDF?

Go through with it, or use some form of traumatic abortion method.

[shinta|hikari]

Massaged the fetus to death.

[neflight86]

Something to be said for consistency, this one picked up right where it left off.

[Ryllharu]

As a member of an imperial nation that's pretending not to be...

It's never the conquest where the moral quandaries arise, it's the occupation. Guess what phase Japan just entered in Magic World?

It's a cute thing the author and anime staff do and one of the nicest parts of this franchise. Japan loves to pretend they have the moral high ground when the conquer some place, and while the upper echelons of the military and the civilian populace still follow the idea that they are righteous in their mission, they're insulated from where the nasty business happens.

GATE plays the concept so straight, that it isn't really obvious where the harsh criticisms are hidden until you look at them a second time, or parallel to a real world example and realize how critical it is. Not all of it is aimed at Japan either.

The scene about STDs and not allowing the JSDF to participate at the brothels isn't because they're honorably not allowing them to do so under the guise that they might catch something. It's very much a strike at comfort women practices from WWII.

[MFauli]

The scene about STDs and not allowing the JSDF to participate at the brothels isn't because they're honorably not allowing them to do so under the guise that they might catch something. It's very much a strike at comfort women practices from WWII.

I think youre overthinking and giving the author too much credit here. The STDs are there so we have an explanation (read: excuse) as for why there aren´t hundreds of Japanese soldiers banging all those smoking hot animal girls, elves, angel girls and so on. Because let´s be real: That would SO happen otherwise.

[MasterOfMoogles]

Dude, wouldn't you be afraid of contracting who knows what, though?

[MFauli]

Dude, wouldn't you be afraid of contracting who knows what, though?

There´s a smoking hot bunny girl in front of you, perfect female human proportions, with the added benefit of exciting, exotic animal parts. Would you: 1.) tap; 2.) not tap?

And these are soldiers of the military, those aren´t the most refined gentlemen.

Personally, I wouldn´t care one bit about STD in that scenario. Especially when we have both real world-medicine and fantasy-world magic at hand. Would be weird if there wasn´t a way to cure whatever. :P

[shinta|hikari]

And that, my friends, is why STDs are still around even in the real world.

[oyabun]

Personally, I wouldn´t care one bit about STD in that scenario. Especially when we have both real world-medicine and fantasy-world magic at hand. Would be weird if there wasn´t a way to cure whatever. :P

I do not know what to say.

[MFauli]

And that, my friends, is why STDs are still around even in the real world.

lol ;P

I wouldn´t fuck any hot girl irl. But a bunny girl? Come on!!1

Imagine those three girls in your sig lying on your bed, waiting for you. What´d you do? Stare?

[shinta|hikari]

If they likely have mysterious STDs, yes.

[Kraco]

I didn't think of the comfort women issue when watching the ep, but I'd bet Ryll is at least partially correct. It's been a big deal, which finally led somewhere just recently with Japan apologizing and paying money (once again) to the victims. It's of course natural not to avoid this topic, especially since they decided to show the slums, but as far as I'm concerned, I think the author found a good way out of it. Considering the political situation in Japan in RL and in this show, as we have seen, I think the brass would also want to avoid giving the opposition a tool in the form of suggesting the troops in the other world are taking advantage of impoverished women.

I'd like to see some Japanese soldier or military contractee wanting to properly marry an animal ears girl, though. I don't think such a thing could be forbidden by any law or regulation, so it would simply cause a headache for someone in charge.

[KrayZ33]

I'm with MFauli on this one, only because this isn't realistic though.

If it were, we'd be looking at girls who live and walk between feces and piss with black and missing teeth. Middle Ages yo! These ones here however are all clean, beautiful and healthy, so go for it!

Somewhat offtopic:
I have a love/hate realationship with this issue. I want them to portray the middle ages in movies/games/anime more realistically, but I don't want to think "ewwwww" whenever I'm watching something like that either.

The Witcher found a good middle ground imho.