GATE: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri

[shinta|hikari]

@Mom - Watch it again. All the knights were in front of the vehicles, and Itami had vehicles right beside and behind him. If he ran while shouting for retreat and entered a vehicle, they would've been able to escape, especially because those knights seem to have incredibly slow reaction times.

And remember, the knights didn't even flinch when he turned around and started shouting, causing the vehicles to suddenly move around. Running away is not much different and actually gets him out of danger. The moment he enters a vehicle, it's a done deal. It's definitely safer than becoming a hostage.

In any case, I wasn't arguing that he should run. I was illustrating how badly the animated scenario was done. It's like the makers knew what had to happen but didn't care about how it should happen. If you read my alternative scenario, this could all have happened in a better way but result in the same thing.

[Buffalobiian]

I do agree that his "run!" didn't sound 100% convincing, a bit like bad acting.

[Kraco]

I do agree that his "run!" didn't sound 100% convincing, a bit like bad acting.

Because it was bad acting. As soon as Itami saw the cadre of beauties, he made the decision, yet it wasn't so much time he could have turned himself into a great actor in the little time.

His actions would have actually made sense if the setting would have been quite different. Such as that they had encountered a friendly check point that had stopped them for an inspection or another reason. Then he naturally wouldn't have much hesitated to get out of the car and generally try to ignore the bared weapons of the other side. But this isn't such a setting. They were stopped by obvious hostiles. In fact that whole world is full of nothing but potential hostiles. Like we learned during the terms negotiations of the Japanese leaving the city they saved, it's an old world where there's little hospitality and general civilized behavior like we are used to in our world, at least within the Western sphere of influence. The alien world in this series is full of backstabbing lords and wannabe lords eyeing for higher positions and not hesitating to rob anyone weak enough to be robbed.

It's quite a problem for the Japanese side if their officers suddenly start to think it's a great idea to offer themselves as hostages. I have no doubt this will end well since the princess, if she has any wits in her pretty head, will treat Itami royally and quickly have him returned (and whip her subordinates for good measure). She has seen that her side has much more to lose than the other side should another battle happen. She also has an unfortunate personality that prevents her from sacrificing a city or two in order to keep Itami for torture and information (not that the Japanese would destroy cities, but I don't think she would yet realise that).

[neflight86]

I'm in the 'little bit off' camp as far as this encounter went, but I'm not vested enough in the realism of this show to find it detrimental to my overall experience. At least bloodshed was avoided, which was Itami's intent, though it put himself at a strategic disadvantage. However, even as a hostage he remains dangerous unless he is stripped of his equipment.

[KrayZ33]

I can't believe we are still discussing that scene... it's so unimportant in terms of immersion and realism, I don't know how this scene could throw anyone off that sees this show as entertainment and not as an attempted documentary

*shrug*

but we have people here that (would probably) complain about the Ride of the Valkyries song playing when the choppers move out...so there is that, oh well.

[shinta|hikari]

I don't think anyone complaining really thinks it's that big of a deal, including me. It's just me asking why they couldn't have done it better when it's so easy to do so.

And you're probably very tolerant in general, which is a good thing.

[KrayZ33]

Well, I've to say that it felt "awkward" when he shouted "RUN" all of a sudden because I expected something more serious to happen first. (Maybe Itami getting tackled to the ground or something like that)

But that "A soldier wouldn't do that" discussion we have is really just odd to have.
I mean, if we were to count all the things a soldier wouldn't do in real life, we'd have no end to it. Starting from EP1.

[Kraco]

But that "A soldier wouldn't do that" discussion we have is really just odd to have.
I mean, if we were to count all the things a soldier wouldn't do in real life, we'd have no end to it. Starting from EP1.

Sure, this is an overall silly series, but this situation is a bit fuzzier. It's going above the threshold of not feeling like the usual foolishness anymore but instead it feels scipted, something that the story artificially made happen so that something else can later happen. That's always annoying.

[Edort4]

but we have people here that (would probably) complain about the Ride of the Valkyries song playing when the choppers move out...so there is that, oh well.

Well.... to play music during a raid when you are close makes sense: you instil fear (its like a signature, they know what is coming) in the enemy and is part of the phsycological war. To do it lots kms away from the battle (giving your position away), I know that time in anime is special but since they play it until they shoot the first bullets its quite time in the episode, isnt very clever and this is the first time in this world they see chopers and hear the Ride so they have 0 knowledge of what it is, there hasnt been another raids/Rides, this mission wasnt exactly a raid (more of a support operation), and they arent inmersed in an atrittion war, so not much phsycological war there.

Pump morale? When you only had 2 battles, totally crushed the enemy, suffered no casualties, and have been deployed a month... I hope they dont find any real oposition cause that army is gona flew on low morale in minute one if they are already like this.

I know that it is some kind of tribute and in sync with the "sense of humor" (pina colada... sigh) but no much sense in there... and I love to criticize :P

[Ryllharu]

but we have people here that (would probably) complain about the Ride of the Valkyries song playing when the choppers move out...so there is that, oh well.

I certainly did, but thankfully, the base commander within the series itself also commented that their choice of music was inappropriate and referred to the bloodthirsty character in Apocalypse Now.

[Kraco]

It was ludicrous, but I'd say well within the scope of this show's sense of humour, which is somewhat low in sophistication. Since it was a reference to another piece of fiction, not some gruesome RL event (not to say shit wouldn't have happened in Vietnam), it's not so bad in my opinion.

[MFauli]

episode 7 is out
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wow, nothing at all happened. 20 minutes of nothingness. fantastic.

i just hope somebody told Rory that she mustnt severely hurt or even kill people on the other side of the gate no matter what.

Also hating how there´s already such a huge female-only crowd surround Itami. Giving me bad SAO-vibes.


Something in general: Some people in this thread defended the various shortcomings of this anime by saying "it´s just an anime, don´t take it too seriously." I heavily disagree. This show´s whole appeal stems from the clash between reality and fantasy. Take that away and you´re left with what´s increasingly a generic harem anime. We have hundreds of those already. Consequently, I hate the bitch that is the leader of the princess´ knights. It´s like she doesn´t give a shit about her Empire and its people. Not only should "giving away her body" not provoke such a reaction when it is to save a whole nation from doom that SHE would have caused. But also did she proceed with hurting the same guy AGAIN, and why? Cause of her personal honor/feeling shame. Words cannot express how much of a bitch this girl is and to see her go unpunished is infurating.

Also Itami ... undressing the mage girl? Really? Yeah, sleeping with clothes on isn´t ideal, but you don´t go about undressing a strange girl without her consent. sigh

[Buffalobiian]

Words cannot express how much of a bitch this girl is and to see her go unpunished is infurating.

Also Itami ... undressing the mage girl? Really? Yeah, sleeping with clothes on isn´t ideal, but you don´t go about undressing a strange girl without her consent. sigh

This, is why MFauli will never be as awesome as Itami.

[MFauli]

This, is why MFauli will never be as awesome as Itami.

True, I´m sorry that my skills as a creepy wannabe-rapist aren´t as highly evolved as those of Itami´s.

:|

[Buffalobiian]

I'm unconvinced.

The girls should have taken the hint and said Itami was being a pervert. They could have excused themselves, then made up to him in their own ways befitting of their culture.

[shinta|hikari]

@Buff - OMG LOL @ Mfauli's sig screenshot. Especially because I made it and the text is a bastardized derivative of my own original.

[Kraco]

Itami is so unlucky. If his squad hadn't appeared that fast, he could have spent the night with the female knight. Nobody could have even blamed him as he would have had the perfect excuse of not daring to refuse in order to avoid making the unknown situation any worse. As big a bitch as the knight was, she was still a real bishoujo with a nice body. So unfortunate.

A good explanation of guns. Gunpowder was labelled magic as chemistry and alchemy were the same things in the old times, and alchemy was magic, after a fashion. The mage girl is really sharp, all in all.

I have a feeling the next ep, and possibly the one after, will be somewhat wasted by being located in Japan. No doubt it's going to be the cheapest sort of savages brought into modern civilization "entertainment". Of course I wouldn't mind being proven wrong.

[David75]

And they can use the winter convention setting to excuse the rather exotic outfits or even ears the girls have...

[MFauli]

That´s´also dumb ... why is Itami so fixated on the Comike? He´s finally in a world where all otaku-fantasies are real.

[shinta|hikari]

That... actually makes sense.

Except 2d>3d.