Dragon Ball Super

[Shadow Skill]

So just anyone that complains about something on the internet is an SJW to you? Even if the sentiment being expressed is the exact opposite of what SJWs actually are?

Opposite how? They whine and complain that Broly is not Canon and are thinking Broly not being canon is unfair to fans of DBZ/Super. SJWs of anime pretty much who's feelers are hurt and going to be hurt after episode 100.

The only way I will accept Broly as canon is if they actually bring him in to the anime with an actual broly story/arc. I just can't accept Broly's name being mentioned in passing in one episode one time as proof that "OMFGWTFBBQROPFLCOPTER1337s0rz BROLY IS CANON NOW YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!" I just can't accept Broly being made Canon in that way.

[DarthEnderX]

Opposite how? They whine and complain that Broly is not Canon and are thinking Broly not being canon is unfair to fans of DBZ/Super.

What does ANY of that have to do with social justice?

SJWs of anime

That's not even a thing!

You're using the term wrong. Please look it up. Calling people SJWs already warrants an eyeroll. Using it wrong is worth a full-on double facepalm.

[Shadow Skill]

What does ANY of that have to do with social justice?

That's not even a thing!

You're using the term wrong. Please look it up. Calling people SJWs already warrants an eyeroll. Using it wrong is worth a full-on double facepalm.

Not using it wrong. You're the one that obviously does not like being told the truth, just like any true SJW. SJW does not = Super Jehoveh Witness. It stands for Social Justice Warriors. They are whiners and cry-=babies, much like broly fans who think Toriyama is unfair to them for not making Broly Canon. As I said, SJWs of anime. Whether you like it or not, Broly will not be made canon. Whining won't change that.

I am going to enjoy the delicious salty tears next week when all the so-called fans quit DBS over two reasons. One is Broly not being made canon. The other is Caulifla achieving SSB (She may not but I have dreams) lol. SJWs of anime will be out in full force on youtube, twitter and probably facebook and forums like this one to post their disgust. Just imagining the saltiness to come is just too thrilling.

[UChessmaster]

Bardock was mentioned to Goku by Vegeta first and then by Frieza, right in the manga/anime?

Nop, no sir.

[DarthEnderX]

Not using it wrong.

You absolutely ARE. I even gave you a goddamn link explaining how.

It stands for Social Justice Warriors. They are whiners and cry-=babies

They are whiners/crybabies about specific things. Specifically, social justice things. More specifically, only one side of social justice things. People complaining about things that have nothing to do with social justice aren't SJWs.

Like someone whining on the internet about how the new Spider-man is black is not a fucking SJW. They're the exact opposite of an SJW.

The canon status of Broly is not a fucking social justice issue. Except the people who are mad at him being replaced by Kale because she's a women. And those people...ARE THE OPPOSITE OF SJWs!

[Shadow Skill]

You absolutely ARE. I even gave you a goddamn link explaining how.

They are whiners/crybabies about specific things. Specifically, social justice things. More specifically, only one side of social justice things. People complaining about things that have nothing to do with social justice aren't SJWs.

Like someone whining on the internet about how the new Spider-man is black is not a fucking SJW. They're the exact opposite of an SJW.

The canon status of Broly is not a fucking social justice issue. Except the people who are mad at him being replaced by Kale because she's a women. And those people...ARE THE OPPOSITE OF SJWs!

Clearly you do not understand what a SJW is. Those whining about Broly not being canon and hoping he will get a mention so he can be canon, much like you, are SJWs. The ones threatening to stop watching DBS if brolly is not made canon and if Caulifla gets SSB are exhibiting the exact same actions as SJWs. They speak the same way and threaten when things don't go there way. SJWs of anime or DBS if you want to be technical. You're half - assery of understanding of what a SJW is, will not change the facts on what they really are.

So... when Vegeta was was telling Goku his dad created the energy ball that mimics a full moon and that his daddy was one of planet Vegeta's greatest scientists(This is the English dubs though of DBZ), that does not make his daddy canon?

[MFauli]

Calling people SJWs already warrants an eyeroll.

Why would that cause an eyeroll? Calling SJW SJW is a-ok.

Anyway. Shadow Kill clearly doesn´t know what a SJW is. I hate SJWs as much as any sane person, but any argument over Broly being canon or not has NO relation to SJW-bs. That´s just dumb. Please stop thinking you´re in the right, Shadow Kill. You really are not.

[UChessmaster]

Clearly you do not understand what a SJW is. Those whining about Broly not being canon and hoping he will get a mention so he can be canon, much like you, are SJWs. The ones threatening to stop watching DBS if brolly is not made canon and if Caulifla gets SSB are exhibiting the exact same actions as SJWs. They speak the same way and threaten when things don't go there way. SJWs of anime or DBS if you want to be technical. You're half - assery of understanding of what a SJW is, will not change the facts on what they really are.

How many people are threatening to quit DBS if Broly is not made cannon? where are you getting this from? How many people do you realistically think are going to quit because the character that was always said to be non cannon is confirmed to be, as a matter of fact, non cannon? he`s been non cannon for the last 98 episodes and broly fans still watched the show even when there was 0, zero, ZERO mention of him. People that want broly cannon have absolutely nothing to lose, people that wants him out of continuity however, can lose.

Also, the SJW thing, I`ll just say this, you`re wrong, stop.

so·cial jus·tice war·ri·or
nouninformalderogatory
noun: social justice warrior; plural noun: social justice warriors
a person who expresses or promotes socially progressive views.

There`s nothing politically correct (or incorrect) about Broly`s cannonical status, NOTHING.

So... when Vegeta was was telling Goku his dad created the energy ball that mimics a full moon and that his daddy was one of planet Vegeta's greatest scientists(This is the English dubs though of DBZ), that does not make his daddy canon?

Is a 100% mistranslated piece of dialog that has been mocked for decades over how horribly wrong it was dubbed cannon? No, it is not.

"We Saiyans realized that we were at the mercy of the moonlight on whatever planet we were on, unable to control the length of day or night. It was completely unpredictable and held our power at a disadvantage... until we discovered a way to artificially create our own moonlight!"

[DarthEnderX]

Why would that cause an eyeroll? Calling SJW SJW is a-ok.

Eh, it's just a lazy insult. And like this thread proves, lots of people use it wrong.

[MFauli]

SJW is not an insult. It´s a descriptor for a certain kind of people.

[UChessmaster]

SJW is not an insult. It´s a descriptor for a certain kind of people.

Conservative nutjobs use it as an insult regardless of its meaning, which I kinda think is what he was trying to attempt here.

[MFauli]

Rational people use it, too, and they don´t use it as an insult.

Similarily, SJWs use "Gamergator" as an insult, when there´s noting bad about Gamergate.

[ForteCross]

Rational people use it, too, and they don´t use it as an insult.

Similarily, SJWs use "Gamergator" as an insult, when there´s noting bad about Gamergate.

SJW are most of the time the obnoxious people that cry at the first reason they can, because they choose to be triggered for the most mundane thing. they are called "warriors" sarcastically because they will start a fight at any chance they get.

that's why calling someone a SJW is an insult/degrading verb.

a SJW would cry foul about Kale not being her own character and just being a female version of broly instead of saying "oh wow, they finaly gave us a female SSJ AND the one and only Canon Legendary SSJ being female"

[shinta|hikari]

To be more accurate, the term SJW started out positive, but gradually became negative, normally referring to overly zealous and sensitive defense of social justice views.

[DarthEnderX]

Rational people use it, too, and they don´t use it as an insult.

I have literally NEVER heard a rational person use it before. I've only ever seen it used interchangeably with terms like "snowflake", "cuck", and "libtard".

Naturally, I just kind of tune out anyone that expresses their views that way.

[MFauli]

I have literally NEVER heard a rational person use it before. I've only ever seen it used interchangeably with terms like "snowflake", "cuck", and "libtard".

Then you´ve heard it now *raises hand*
I wouldn´t use "libtard" because I´m way more liberal than typical sjws. A cuck is something specifically different. And I don´t know about "snowflake" ... maybe people who like waki?

Naturally, I just kind of tune out anyone that expresses their views that way.

As opposed to not tuning out people that are obnoxious feminists or otherwise annoying, irrational social justice activists? I´m sorry, but I will forever fight idiots who support censorship in games just because they can´t differentiate between real and fictional girls. Or people that are outraged because Pokemon asks you "are you a boy or a girl?" and call Nintendo transphobic for it. Or hypocritical people that only want to apply their morals towards selected minorities and throw the same morals over boards when it comes to straight white men (aka the devil).

Sorry, it´s just that I have to deal with such idiots every single day, and I´m tired and angry when I hear someone say that those saying "sjws" are the bad ones ...

Dragon Ball!

[DarthEnderX]

As opposed to not tuning out people that are obnoxious feminists or otherwise annoying, irrational social justice activists?

No, I tune those out too.

There are just certain key phrases that when you hear someone use them in comments you immediately know "this person treats their politics like it's a team sport and reading any further is going to be a poor use of your time".

"SJWs are ruining [blank]" is generally one of those phases.

[MFauli]

Well, that´s unfortunate then, as I tend to use "sjw" as neutral denominator (although one with a negative inherent meaning). I generally hate how those people (and it´s not (only) the ones that use "sjw" in your manner, Darth) are extreme without any willingness to talk to each other and find a compromise. "You´re 100% for us or 100% against us" is the typical thought pattern of ... see, and I don´t know a better, more fitting word than "sjw" to use here ;> Someone recently told me he calls them "Neo-Puritans", maybe that´s better? However, I won´t call them "progressives" or "liberals", because that´s what I am, and I don´t associate with these extremists.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, that´s unfortunate then, as I tend to use "sjw" as neutral denominator (although one with a negative inherent meaning).

No, I get it. You're using it specifically against people complaining about objectification of women, and equating that with censorship.

As opposed to, say, the people who use the term every time a woman, racial minority, or LBGT person or character appears in something it wasn't in before.

For example, the people that are currently complaining about how "SJWs have ruined Dr. Who" because the new Doctor is a woman.

It's two completely different issues that get covered by the same umbrella "SJW" term. Because SJW, by it's nature, covers any social issue.

"You´re 100% for us or 100% against us" is the typical thought pattern of ... see, and I don´t know a better, more fitting word than "sjw" to use here

Yes, but it's just as typical a thought pattern on the opposite side.

As I said, it's treating political and social viewpoints like it's a team sport. Neither side cares about the actual repercussions to society. They just care about their "side" winning.

[MFauli]

As I said, it's treating political and social viewpoints like it's a team sport. Neither side cares about the actual repercussions to society. They just care about their "side" winning.

That´s the big problem. There is zero willingness to compromise, not even an attempt to understand differing opinions.

I remember how a certain other forum´s community went nuts after Hillary had established the term "deplorables". From then on, social justice activists would call all Trump-supporters "deplorables". As time went by, they didn´t stop there, but actively implied that it´d be better if all Trump-supporters were dead.
Now, I´m far from a Trump-supporter, but as a humanist, it just irks me to no end when ANYONE is wished death upon. Especially when there are real reason behind anything. Rural America isn´t racist because they enjoy being racist. But social justice activists had decided that these people´s feelings and lives didn´t matter. It´s at that point where I question a movement that so vocally support blacklivesmatters, homosexuals or any other group: You want to make more people happy? Then don´t fucking exclude anyone! sigh
Yeah, talking with racists is difficult. But you will never be in the right if your solution is to simply kill all racists to achieve peace. By the same metric, we could simply kill all minorities and have peace, too ...

Aaanyway, this is getting to long a post now. I´m simply tired and frustrated by ... everything that´s going on, especially the American side of the globe. It´s like everybody has become an idiot and it doesn´t matter who you take a look at.

PS: I criticized the female Doctor Who, simply because I always hate it when established characters are changed on a whim. Would hate it just as much a if female character was turned male, or a black one white, etc.. But instantly, I was mocked as a right-wing women hater. :/