Well, like Shadow Skill suggested, you might only need one person in the fusion to be Kaioshin to make the fusion permanent. Since I don't think Kibito was a full Kaioshin either.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
You know technically, Zamasu should have a time limit too since it's Goku's body fused with a God.
Yeah, even I am getting bothered by writing inconsistencies and pointless retcons, it`s as if they were actively trying to prevent gogeta from becoming cannon, story be damned.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Kibito was part of the god race.
Also, if one kaioshin is enough for a permanent potara fusion, then one immortal should be enough to keep the immortality running, wouldn´t you think so? ;P Yadadadada!
The retcons are really shitty. Potara fusion being temporary for non-Kaioshins was super disappointing. We clearly knew from Boo that Vegeto was only dissolved because of the weird environment within Boo. No bs about time limits.
That said, the animation was FANTASTIC. Seriously, this was the first truly well animated fighting sequence in DBS. The hand to hand combat between Vegeto and Zamasu felt so impactful, it was truly exciting. Such wild, raw fighting power.
Ofc power levels are effed up beyond repair. Goku could damage Zamasu when Vegeta and Trunks together couldnt. Vegeto wasnt that much stronger than Goku just moments before. And Trunks was on par with Zamasu because ... BECAUSE. And then deus ex machina, a sword-turned genkidama outta nowhere. Okay.
But it was fun to watch. Cant complain too much.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Yeah, think you only need one Kai for the fusion to be permanent. After all...that old Kai is still stuck in his fused form with that witch.
I have another problem with this arc in general. It squanders all of the potential that was created when they first introduced the idea of there being twelve universes.
Zamasu was a powerful enough villain to destroy every god in every one of those universes. And the good guys still beat him. So already, any other threat those universes pose is going to end up being lesser to a villain they've already surpassed. If Trunks can kill Fusion Zamasu, what's threat anyone in the upcoming tournament supposed to pose to the main characters?
I think that the next one would be just the tournament. So no actual danger or anything. After all...the King did say he'd want one as well.
And we still don't know wtf happened with Trunk. I mean his combi of blue and SSJ Ki. Since he is a half breed, does that mean he gets God Ki from both races? If that is a thing then there is a slight chance of Gohan jumping back into the fray but I think DBS has pretty much put him down as a normal person these days.
But yeah, wasted potential. But..maybe, they killed those Gods recently in the future timeline. Also...we don't know if there are other types of Gods. Like previous God's of Destruction that are sealed away or something. Hell maybe even the previous King of All as a foe.
It looked like the people made a Spirit Bomb for him(or he made one subconsciously), and then instead of hitting Zamasu with it, he channeled it through his ki sword.
well it was planned all along for him to actually be the one to save his world, thats why he got all those power ups from nowhere... from a writing point it works... he is the savior of his world, and with the spirit bomb its not like he got to god like level powers but only temporary with the power of everyone...
the final fight was a bit anti climatic, he got to a new final form! and then died....
Zamasu's final form really sucked. It was clearly only partial anyway. I was expecting his body to change completely after getting hit with the Final Kamehameha.
Next arc: We find out that the first of the time rings got created when the original rulers of the universe, the "God Rulers", sent themselves back in time and had their memories wiped. This was because the lesser gods resented the God Rulors and started to believe that they´d never be able to get into their current position of power if it wasn´t for the natural advantage of having been there first.
Therefore, the "Saiyajin" came to be, the original form of the God Rulers. The entire DB story is actually about the return of the most powerful gods in all the 12 universes, slowly but surely finding back to their original power. In the course, we find out that Beerus, who lead Freezer to destroy planet Vegeta, was actually ordered himself by the remaining gods, in order to eradicate the God Rulers for all time.
Obviously, this is all in great irony to Zamasu´s "fuck ningen, gods are da best!" attitude.
Damn, it´s fun to write silly DBS fanfic!
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
We know they can get stronger by powering up lol, of course they can lower once they're at maximum, what I believe they cannot do is say, actually decrease (decrease not hide) their level from their base point (which is why a base level exist in the first place) to Satans level or whatever.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
They can absolutely do that, because all of them can decrease their power till a scouter can no longer pick them up. Which means they can lower their power to lower than that of a normal human being.
Well if yelling makes you more powerful, shutting up makes you weaker. I think that makes perfect sense.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
You just solved all the power level debates in all of anime history.
Peace.
They can HIDE it, at no point is goku as weak as farmer with shotgun. If I have a gun, don't want you to know so i hide it in my pocket, do i not have a gun because you can't see it?
Last edited by UChessmaster; Thu, 11-17-2016 at 12:07 PM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
dude they hide it by lowering the ki level to that of a human being, so if someone is scanning for them will not find them because they will simply disregard that ki level as just some weakling, how is that so hard to understand?
you are actually saying that they hide their ki by "hiding their ki", it makes zero sense. the "hiding a gun" analogy doesnt work because one thing is a physical thing you can actually see and touch, the other one is not a physical thing that can be seen or touch (at low levels)
if there are in the middle of a fight there are no reason to actually lower your ki, but if you are on the run (like trunks at the begining of this saga, or krillin + gohan in namek) you dont "hide" your ki, you just lower it enough to match a low level human/namek and then if someone is looking for you in a scouter they will just see "low level/namek's ki level" and continue on
base levels were a thing that vegeta and nappa were using in their arc, and then it went all to the trash when they discovered that the Z fighters can lower and power up their ki as they will
Is that your criteria? What about Goku's body mass and physical strength, is that not physical? How can he lower that so that it matches satan's? So you actually believe goku can somehow make himself weaker than farmer with shotgun? Ok
Last edited by UChessmaster; Thu, 11-17-2016 at 04:01 PM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
There's no indication that he would need to. None of the descriptions of the requirements for the Fusion Dance mention those things.
And even if it was, have you never seen Trunks or Master Roshi bulk up their bodies instantly? Obviously it's possible to do with physical mass what you can do with ki.
Up not down.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
goku and vegeta can literally use the dragon balls from their current time to ask for immortality and then go to trunk's future, fuse using the earrings and beat both zamasus.
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