Dragon Ball Super

[DarthEnderX]

PS: I criticized the female Doctor Who, simply because I always hate it when established characters are changed on a whim. Would hate it just as much a if female character was turned male, or a black one white, etc.. But instantly, I was mocked as a right-wing women hater. :/

To be fair, that argument is really stupid when applied to The Doctor. The Doctor is not just a new actor playing the same character. It's an alien that creates a brand new body for itself every time it's old one is killed. And it's never established that the new body has to be the same gender as the old one. And in fact other members of The Doctor's race have already done this, so it has been expressly established that this could totally happen.

So for anyone that actually knows and cares about the show and the character, there's literally no reason this doesn't make complete sense. So anyone complaining about this change comes off as someone who doesn't know anything about the show, and if they don't know anything about the show, the only reason they have to be complaining about it is because they thought it was an excuse to complain about men characters becoming women. Which makes them look like a right-wing woman hater.

[MFauli]

To be fair, that argument is really stupid when applied to The Doctor. The Doctor is not just a new actor playing the same character. It's an alien that creates a brand new body for itself every time it's old one is killed. And it's never established that the new body has to be the same gender as the old one. And in fact other members of The Doctor's race have already done this, so it has been expressly established that this could totally happen.

So for anyone that actually knows and cares about the show and the character, there's literally no reason this doesn't make complete sense. So anyone complaining about this change comes off as someone who doesn't know anything about the show, and if they don't know anything about the show, the only reason they have to be complaining about it is because they thought it was an excuse to complain about men characters becoming women. Which makes them look like a right-wing woman hater.

And yet the doctor has been male for ... how many decades? I call that "established". And no matter how you look at that, there´s nothing malicious about it. I´d be absolutely fine with a new Galifreyan female main character that took over the doctor´s place. But changing a character´s sex? Nah, I don´t like it. Doesn´t make me a right-wing women hater.

[DarthEnderX]

And yet the doctor has been male for ... how many decades? I call that "established".

And where was your disdain for when, after decades, that "established" character was a red head for the first time? Or when that established character was suddenly Scottish for the first time(which should actually bother you MORE, because his speech patterns changing makes less sense than his gender changing)?

The fact that you only complained about him changing when it was the change from man to woman...kinda makes it seem like you ARE that.

Unless you actually did complain about those other changes when they happened. Then disregard all that.

[redcat]

this thread right now

[DarthEnderX]

Episode 100 will fix it.

[MFauli]

And where was your disdain for when, after decades, that "established" character was a red head for the first time? Or when that established character was suddenly Scottish for the first time(which should actually bother you MORE, because his speech patterns changing makes less sense than his gender changing)?

The fact that you only complained about him changing when it was the change from man to woman...kinda makes it seem like you ARE that.

Unless you actually did complain about those other changes when they happened. Then disregard all that.

I didn´t know that there was a ginger-doctor, lol
But on a serious note, I think sex matters. It´s big part of one´s identity. I know because I can tell you with utmost certainty that I´d never want be a woman. Not because I hate women, but because one´s sex is that important. And I think the same is true for the vast majority of people on this planet.

It´s why it´s easier to accept when a character turns into an animal, too. Your attempt to ridicule the difference between sex and other, much less important superficial differences, however, makes *you* sound like you ARE that. ;>

[DarthEnderX]

I didn´t know that there was a ginger-doctor, lol

There's not(that I'm aware of, I don't actually know the hair colors of a lot of the earlier Doctors). The point is, every Doctor is different in some way from every Doctor that came before.

And I think the same is true for the vast majority of people on this planet.

He's not FROM this planet. The vast majority of people on this planet also aren't thousands of years old, don't time travel, and don't shapeshift into new bodies when they die.

Your attempt to ridicule the difference between sex and other, much less important superficial differences, however, makes *you* sound like you ARE that.

Nice tu quoque.

[MFauli]

There's not(that I'm aware of, I don't actually know the hair colors of a lot of the earlier Doctors). The point is, every Doctor is different in some way from every Doctor that came before.

He's not FROM this planet. The vast majority of people on this planet also aren't thousands of years old, don't time travel, and don't shapeshift into new bodies when they die.

And yet, the doctor HAS BEEN male for decades. Only now, when extremist feminists have reached their global high point, he suddenly turns into a woman. Dont pretend that´s a coincidence. And don´t claim that it simply wasn´t possible before due to "the times". Ever since the restart of Doctor Who they could have had a female doctor. But they gave us another half-dozen male incarnations.

Look, I don´t have a problem with female leads. I don´t even have that much of a problem with this female incarnation if it was truly always the case that Galifreyans could choose to become male or female, although I find it stupid, because when you keep incarnating as male for decades (centuries in-universe time), that´s gotta mean something. What I don´t like is the timing of it all. It gives fuel to the biggest idiots on the internet, the social justice activist-crowd who don´t even care about Doctor Who. They care about having another "win". It´s Ghostbusters 2016 all over again. Well, let´s hope Doctor Who won´t suck that mich. Doesn´t matter much to me, though, since I already stopped watching at the beginning of the Capaldi-episodes.

Nice tu quoque.

You kept poisining the well. After all, dubia in meliorem partem interpretari debent *shrugs*

[DarthEnderX]

Hah! I do believe this has run it's course.

[MFauli]

I´d also rather have the new DBS episode ;P

[shinta|hikari]

Why is it that people always want to have the last word?

[UChessmaster]

Why is it that people always want to have the last word?

*Six long paragraphs explaining why you`re wrong*

[shinta|hikari]

That has content. Last word posts don't.

[DarthEnderX]

100

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I shoulda liked this episode. But I didn't. For an episode with so much important stuff happening, it was really low budget looking.

We can safely say now that Super doesn't consider the movies to be canon.

Disappointed in Kale. They're basically redoing Broly, but not just the cool shit about Broly, all the lame shit about Broly as well, like how he's a mindless brute that can only scream Goku's name over and over.

Also kinda BS that she's even stronger than SSJ Blue. LSSJ is not a god form. It shouldn't be stronger than one.

Jiran was also kinda disappointing. Yeah, he one-shotted Kale, but it didn't look that cool.

[NeoCybercoin]

Well I for one loved the throw backs to the moves that Broly used.
Shrugging off attacks, grinding others through walls, stuff like that. I really liked that. They also stayed true to the berserk mindset of the LSSJ. But since the form is still different from what we saw before I am guessing that at the end of the next one, she's going to learn how to control it.

[MFauli]

Aaand Goku is back to being the biggest idiot in all the universes. Your existence is on the line and he starts teaching the opponent. Great. Just fucking great.

[DarthEnderX]

Aaand Goku is back to being the biggest idiot in all the universes. Your existence is on the line and he starts teaching the opponent. Great. Just fucking great.

I never for an instant thought Goku wouldn't take the opportunity to make his opponents stronger in order to get a better fight.

It's like one of the core aspects of his character.

[UChessmaster]

I shoulda liked this episode. But I didn't. For an episode with so much important stuff happening, it was really low budget looking.

I`ve been bitching about the horrendous animation since forever. Not a single fight looks good since they changed it.

[DarthEnderX]

I feel like they sometimes spend money on certain scenes.

Like, the recent scene where Golden Freeza wiped out those assassins that tried to kill them looked 10x better than anything in the Golden Freeza arc.

A lot of the Zamasu fight was noticeably higher budget than the rest of the series as well.

One would think, with episode 100, with fights between Saiyans and new LSSJs, and seeming primary antagonist Jiran fighting for the first time, they'd have wanted to splurge a little on this one.

[Shadow Skill]

Enjoyable episode 100 is. I guess I am wrong about the Yardrat, he was owned by Caulifla very easy. That sucks. Would still like to know how he got to Universe 2 was it?

Lol, Caulifla may get SSB yet lol. Next episode, just kidding. If that happened the western audience would still watch with eyes wide open full of stars and fireworks.