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    Antoher ep that felt way too short. I'm enjoying the show.

    Remember that the grimoire is the one the michievious middle age lady was choosing for Bell last ep. She's also the one responsible for the monsters' rampage. We don't know why yet, or who she is, but she set her eyes on Bell from ep 1 it seems.


    Now, is Syr an acomplice, or was the grimoire spelled so that no one but Bell would get it in the end ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Remember that the grimoire is the one the michievious middle age lady was choosing for Bell last ep. She's also the one responsible for the monsters' rampage. We don't know why yet, or who she is, but she set her eyes on Bell from ep 1 it seems.
    Oh, I had totally forgotten such a detail. That's a moot point, then, since it certainly was no coincidence in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Oh, I had totally forgotten such a detail. That's a moot point, then, since it certainly was no coincidence in that case.
    Middle aged lady? The Goddess of Sex/Beauty? When did this happen the episode before last? I only remember Bell's advisor choosing something at a shop before Bell settled for some armour.

    As for his spell, I think it the non-chanting thing was was partly due to the Grimore, but also due to his quick learning. The book chooses a magic that best suits the user, and a non-chanting assault spell was the result.

    MFauli is the only person to take that question seriously. Bell doesn't care. Bell just picks up chicks like a boss.

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    Bell doesn't pick girls, he's a chick magnet and tends to flee when they're too close unless said girl is Hestia and he induglges in some skinship

    As for the middle aged lady, she feels in her 20, but that's middle aged by anime standards...

    Check ep04 around 21'20" just before ED, same grimoire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    As for the middle aged lady, she feels in her 20, but that's middle aged by anime standards...
    And they talk about me and shinta... xD

    It does seem strange that no one else even opened up that book, but one can argue that the effects don't activate until one starts committing to learning.

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    Said woman seems to be a high level mage or even a high level Goddess. She was able to put to sleep lots of people and set last ep monster to target Bell.
    I think she's more than capable to either manipulate/spell Syr into giving the grimoire to Bell alone and/or cast a spell on the grimoire so that it only falls into Bell's hands in the end.
    Some kind of invisibility spell where an object feels useless or does not catch the interrest of anyone but the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Bell doesn't pick girls, he's a chick magnet and tends to flee when they're too close unless said girl is Hestia and he induglges in some skinship
    I don't think he has any active feelings for Hestia apart from worshipping her as his goddess. He might feel conscious of her feminity every now and then, but he's probably forcing himself to ignore her as a girl to respect her properly as a goddess. Hestia is such an airhead she doesn't realise it in order to fix it, causing her unnecessary grief and jealousy.

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    I know he's totally passive and unaware.
    But the status update Hestia performs counts as skinship to me

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    Episode 6 - HS




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    Yes, he's a moron, an idiot, and even a complete fool. Fortunately he's also a main character, so he can keep pulling off stupid stunts and still stay alive. And keep finding more oppai loli, it seems, as Lili seemed surprisingly racked. Still, at least it looks like he got his special knife back, so he doesn't need to raid the Soma family to crack some skulls, not that they wouldn't deserve it, but honestly I think Lili also deserved to lose her possessions and then some more for her treason.

    Hestia was rather nonchalant considering it's obvious Lili would have had no qualms about arranging the deaths of her targets, all things considered (since that's only all to natural in the dungeon and removes all evidence nicely). But then again, she put all the lipids in her boobs, leaving nothing for the glial cells in her brain, so she's not too smart either.

    I wonder why Lili was again hunting adventurers in front of the dungeon. Since the Soma family left her to die, I don't see how she could or would go back there anymore. It also looked otherwise like Bell was adopting her earlier.

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    You're correct. It doesn't make any sense to have "reset meeting" again. Those loose strings should have been wrapped up before they left that dungeon.

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    Lili actually cried herself to sleep, and Bell carried her out of the dungeon. She woke up at Bell's place but both Hestia and Bell were out, so she just left. After that, Bell returned finding her gone and went to look for her.

    That's why they met again at the fountain and formally established a contract. No, I didn't read the source. That was all just me filling in the blanks.

    I love Aiz's dress design. Wakiness. Lili also randomly raised an arm while waiting for her death just to display hers. The character designer and director of this show know what they are doing.
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    Aaand caught up! Watched all 6 episodes in one go Had to laugh out loud, when that recite of Bellīs grandfather in ep1 was basically what I parodied in my earlier posting in this thread, haha.

    Anyway, this is actually a nice medieval fantasy anime. Another twist on the whole mmorpg-anime genre.

    Now, what makes no sense at all is Bell himself. His main goal is to find a girl, that much was made clear. So ... whatīs he doing?! Heīs living with a hot girl that obviously likes him, too. Iīm still waiting for a "itīs impossible to have a relationship with a goddess" explanation, but from an earlier episode, it seems that that isnt even forbidden. So ... what?!
    Then he meets Syr girl, a super cute maid, who openly tells him she likes him. And again, he doesnīt pick up anything.
    I really have to question his motives. And itīs not like thereīs a deeper connection between him and Aiz.

    Im glad that Lily has finally returned to her senses. Itīs kinda boring to watch a transparent plot unfold. Both her and Kiritoīs voice actor give me bad feelings of harem-ness starting, though. Ugh.

    I hope the remaining party member joins soon, so the anime can focus on progressing the actual adventure.

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    I think you missed the part about him having the hots for Aiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Now, what makes no sense at all is Bell himself. His main goal is to find a girl, that much was made clear. So ... whatīs he doing?! Heīs living with a hot girl that obviously likes him, too. Iīm still waiting for a "itīs impossible to have a relationship with a goddess" explanation, but from an earlier episode, it seems that that isnt even forbidden. So ... what?!
    Then he meets Syr girl, a super cute maid, who openly tells him she likes him. And again, he doesnīt pick up anything.
    I really have to question his motives. And itīs not like thereīs a deeper connection between him and Aiz.
    I reckon he's aiming for Aiz because he admires her. He wants to become a strong adventurer and Aiz is a shining example of that. She's also beautiful and elegant, which is something Bell isn't (or handsome and elegant in his case, since he's a dude). He's fleeing from her, though, because he's too embarrassed by getting saved by her due to his weakness. As a man he doesn't want to appear weak in front of his crush. Quite natural.

    I've said it before, but it's more or less obvious Bell respects Hestia too deeply as a goddess to allow himself to see her as a catchable woman. Naturally he's somewhat conscious of her cuteness and feminity, but it does look like he draws a line. Hestia herself would need to erase that line, but she's too airheaded to realise such a simple thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I hope the remaining party member joins soon, so the anime can focus on progressing the actual adventure.
    What adventure? These adventurers are more like blue-collar workers who go to the dungeon 8AM and climb back up 4PM to call it a day. Why, they are essentially like miners mining the magical monster crystals, which seem to power the city. If there's an adventure, it must be an accident and a nuisance, kind of like a collapsed mine in RL, trapping miners.

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    Indeed. All the adventure is above ground, the dungeon-diving is just setup (and only as-needed) for the above-ground drama.

    Freya is obviously the big bad, having been slighted by Hestia somehow and interested in Bell. Loki and Hestia may fight, but it is harmless compared to what Freya does to the poor loli-boobed goddess of all that is good and holy and a warm place to come back to.

    Next you have the waitresses who are up to no good, giving Bell priceless grimoires and laughing it off as a mistake...yeah, nothing out of the ordinary going on there...

    And then you have the guildhall representative taking a personal interest in his safety and going out of her way to make sure he has the right equipment to survive.

    Finally you have the Queen of the Adventurers smitten with him, but too shy to approach and apologize for the rudeness of her comrades, secretly supporting him from the shadows.

    All in all, it is still good fun, but to pretend that anything in the dungeon matters at all is foolishness at best. This takes an even further step away from any sort of grand quest like Druaga had, though managing to keep the deaths of random adventurers much more commonplace.

    As much as Lili is a bitch and a scumbag, I do kind of hope she joins Hestia's Familia. The poor girl needs a break, and Hestia needs more loving, doting worshippers to grant her hospitality to, poor that it may be.

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    Lili actually expected him to escape, so she never intended to kill him. She's not as much of a scumbag as she appeared to be. Also, she has great waki. And also a loli. All is forgiven.

    What I don't like is Aiz getting interested in Bell. It's a little too much. She should have stayed the unreachable goal instead of harem girl 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Lili actually expected him to escape, so she never intended to kill him. She's not as much of a scumbag as she appeared to be. Also, she has great waki. And also a loli. All is forgiven.
    I'm not so sure about that. She took him deeper than he was ready to descend and then used the whatever bait crystal to summon multiple high level monsters, which promptly surrounded him. Like I said before, it's obvious her intention was to cover all the tracks by making him a dime a dozen adventurer, who got killed in the dungeon. Happens all the time, can't be helped, so nobody would suspect her or come after her. If Bell had survived, he would have naturally hunted her down, which can't be a part of anybody's plan. She didn't exactly pick his pocket this time.

    I might have forgiven her if she was a child, but those breasts don't belong to a child. But whatever. Bell 'Jesus' Cranel forgave her, so that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Lili actually expected him to escape, so she never intended to kill him. She's not as much of a scumbag as she appeared to be.
    In addition to what Kraco said about the lures, Lili also mentally lumped him in with the other bastards from her Familia once she saw Bell and that other douchebag "conspiring".

    She had every intention of getting him killed, knew he wouldn't survive once she stole his valuable equipment, and felt bad only when karma caught up to her and put her in the very same situation she put Bell into.

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    Except she literally told him to escape before she left him. It makes absolutely no sense to say this if she intended/wanted him to die. She knew his skills, and escaping is much easier than killing all the orcs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Except she literally told him to escape before she left him. It makes absolutely no sense to say this if she intended/wanted him to die. She knew his skills, and escaping is much easier than killing all the orcs.
    So what was her plan for later then? Leave the country?

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