S4E15
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-Lily got picked up by her giant backpack, lol.
-Haruhime wasn't even in the "Do you trust the blacksmith" shots. She was out cold.
-Fuck yeah Aisha being the MVP. No Lily, don't blame the lvl4. Her confidence might stem from that, but the rest is just being level headed and observant.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It was so joyous Cassandra only managed to get "despair" out of her mouth a single time. Maybe in the next episode it will be zero times. Perhaps if the Ryu rescue squad joins them, despair would be gone for a little while. At least until they bump into the abomination.
Starting weapon smithing in the middle of the dungeon with some stove that looks barely enough to bake potatoes is something I didn't expect. But then again, it is a fantasy world. It making magic weapons is so easy, it makes sense to do it.
The fact that magic weapons are so disposable in the first place is something I don't like about this setting.
But then, they're also pretty much just magic wands in this show. Which is also dumb.
I can actually appreciate the magic weapons being so short-lived. It ensures that not everybody can be equipped with them or alternatively their use must be extremely carefully regulated, since they are pretty powerful. The effects are replicable with attack spells, but competent magicians seem to be relatively rare and they tire out quite fast. Plus magicians need protection by fighters.
But yeah, it's like a strange cultural thing the magic weapons look like melee weapons when they act like magic wands. Maybe such a design thing developed to make fighters carry them more confidently? Perhaps in the distant past they looked like wands, but fighters didn't want to carry them out of embarrassment, since they looked like they belonged to magicians.
Of course, they also still have more traditional magic weapons as well, cause both of Bell's knives are just, like, enhanced melee weapons.
Aisha's sword doesn't seem to be limited in use.
It rather feels to me that Welf swords have that limitation.
Bell's blade was forged by Welf's latest master and that blade doesn't seem to have limited use either.
My guess is that Welf is a genius blacksmith in the making. His swords break because he infuses them with magical attributes to a level never seen before, but he has yet to find a way to make them more durable. When it happens is when he approaches God like mastery of his craft.
But it's possible I overlooked other weapons being shortlived.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Or his materials have just been crap.Originally Posted by David75
Only Welf's magic weapons break quickly, and it is sort of part of the weapon spec itself. It is a disposable but powerful tool that only Welf and his family can produce.
Peace.
I wasn't aware of Aisha's sword having any particular magical property.
Bell's was appraised to be useless until he held it - then it becomes something essentially indestructible as well as allowing mana channeling - it it in and of itself didn't allow Bell to use any magic that he did not already possess.
I can't remember what his green slender dagger was about.
Welf's weapons are limited use spells that also act as weapons (presumably - though using them as one might ruin their durability - for example, using the nearly-shattered fire weapon he had to attack might shatter it prematurely). They seem to allow anyone to use them to the proficiency crafted by Welf.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I was not precise enough, true.
Classes of weapons I've seen:
-Regular non magical weapons: Aisha's sword and Big Guy's Axe. Some of Lion's short swords ? No mana storage/conductivity long life
-Bell's mid-size sword, long knife: Mana conductive blade, needs loads of mana. Long life.
-Welf swords: mana/spell storage. Versatile, powerful but limited use. Around 5 uses or less depending on power output ?
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Bell's sword doesn't require mana to be used. It requires him as a user, and has a built in mana conductive blade to make use of his firebolt spell. The way he normally uses it is just like any other blade.
Peace.
Episode 16
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Good thing MPC-HC has the (common) functionality of jumping 5 seconds forward by pressing the right arrow. Because I used that functionality quite a few times during the beginning of this episode. I have no idea why they must insert that blather in these episodes. Flashbacks can be tedious, even if they weren't purposefully made so, because they stop the progress of the actual story. Ryuu is a popular character, so I don't believe those boring segments are needed to make people care for her.
Anyway, it seems like Welf's previous magic weapons might have been somewhat inferior in quality/materials, even if not in power. Still, this new one does need mana from the user. Who knows how it all works.
It was kind of surprising how distasteful both Ryuu and Bell found taking stuff from the cadavers. At least I finally did get my answer to the question of why they didn't check them before. Maybe there's some sense to it, seeing how the adventurers are all basically colleagues, all of them raiding that one dungeon regularly. There would automatically be some respect among them, at least in death. It's a job that may kill them at any time, and they all know it. But still, in that super desperate situation, Bell's hesitation was too strong. He's still wet behind the ears. He got a little bit of Ryuu fanservice out of it, though, to relieve his pain.
For people who go around killing monsters and are willing to die trying, having second thoughts about looting bodies just seems strange.
A dead body is no good to anyone unless you're going to dissect it for something.
Maybe our generation is just too used to RPGs and we loot everything and anything.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Looting corpses is driven by desperation as the primary motivator. No one who loots does it for fun and enjoyment, unless they are crazy. If Bell (or most adventurers) weren't desperate, they wouldn't even consider looting human remains, regardless if they were fellow adventurers or not. Humans have always had a certain respect for the dead, even when they eat them.
Peace.
Literally "My strength is my friends!" cliche.
I've been doing that for the entirely of the last 4 episodes...
Elf backstory? *clickclickclick*
Cleric still freaking out? *clickclickclick*
Hestia on screen? ...
5 minutes of hacking at lizardmen? *clickclickclick*
Mmm, that's never been my(admittedly fictional)experience with bodies found in the wild. You always take anything useful from a body. If you also want to be respectful, you either bury the body, or return it home. But you don't bury the useful items with the body or just leave them lying around.
Worst case scenario, you'd just be leaving the loot around for some monster to pick up, and then use it to kill someone else.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Fri, 02-03-2023 at 08:39 PM.
During medieval times (and obviously far before that as well), people would sometimes even start looting bodies/corpses while the battle was still going on.
soo... *shrug*
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 02-04-2023 at 07:13 AM.
People in medieval times were desperate compared to modern times. They are especially more desperate if they had to fight in a battle or be around a battlefield.
Bell and Lyu were desperate so they looted. If they were just strolling in the upper floors and saw a bunch of corpses, they would probably bring them up instead of looting them.
Peace.
The motivation was getting lots of money and a better life, not survival itself.
It's a different kind of "desperate", but it's still more or less about "fun" and living the easy life.
The point (about people starting to loot mid-battle) was that they didn't just loot to survive, they looted to get ahead.
Not to mention that the looting was actually a business on it's own and no fucks were given about the people being dead. Mercenary groups for example had *squads* of pillagers and looters that would sweep in after the battle, get anything worth shit and then the loot would be distributed properly among everyone.
But this is anime, and not a historical one, so obviously Bell wouldn't loot like that.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sun, 02-05-2023 at 04:15 PM.
Even with how you describe it, it sounds like a way for desperate people to get money. I don't think rich and powerful people were spending their time looting corpses in battlefields for fun. Mercenaries are also desperate people. Who would choose that dangerous and difficult lifestyle if they could just be a noble or a rich merchant?
Peace.
It's possible looting happened a lot more a little bit earlier in Orario's history, when it was much more chaotic, with Evilus still in the picture. In fact they would have been surely looting even living people (that is, violent robbing). I doubt the more upright adventurers would have minded looting defeated Evilus members either. But maybe things changed somewhat after Evilus was beaten and things calmed down. There might have been a backlash against not respecting fellow adventurers at all, as it could have reminded of the chaotic time. We have seen a few times that adventurers generally frown on stealing kills, leading monsters upon other adventurer parties, and such. But of course there are also a lot of adventurers with a very poor attitude, such most of the folks living permanently or semi-permanently in the safe zone town in the dungeon.
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