Shokugeki no Soma

[shinta|hikari]

I don't think so. When you know more and have more skills, your creativity is also boosted. Soma has lived all his life in Japan, so he would know nothing of great many things out there in the wide world. He might know some exotic (in Japan) things his dad tried back at the restaurant, but considering it was a place for affordable food, I doubt his dad used overly much imported stuff. However, go to India or Europe, and you would find everywhere stuff that would be rare in Japan (or vice versa). Soma is still highly lacking in that sense.

That "sense" isn't creativity. That's knowledge. Making something good with limited knowledge and ingredients is creativity, like the bacon wrapped fake-meat potato, the honey bourguignon, the canned fish burger, and the mackerel onigiri chazuke (all of which make little sense in reality, btw).

Of course, having more information and experience expands what he can create, but that isn't being creative. That's merely application of knowledge. Doing something different or applying something in a new way falls more on the grounds of creativity,

[Kraco]

If he doesn't know some spice, ingredient, or technique exists, he can't use it create new dishes or just enhance existing ones. Of course it limits him.

[shinta|hikari]

I absolutely agree. I only disagreed with the label. Creativity is more resourcefulness. Having a wide repertoire is not equivalent, though usually correlated.

[MFauli]

That "sense" isn't creativity. That's knowledge. Making something good with limited knowledge and ingredients is creativity, like the bacon wrapped fake-meat potato, the honey bourguignon, the canned fish burger, and the mackerel onigiri chazuke (all of which make little sense in reality, btw).

Tbh, most of that sounds pretty gross and vomit-inducing. Especially the fake meat thing and the canned fish burger. Eww.

[shinta|hikari]

The canned fish burger is just wrong.

[Kraco]

The fake meat potato with bacon thing actually doesn't sound so bad. It was some soya shit, then yes, but baked potato that has sucked in juice from meat should be tasty. Doesn't beat the real thing, naturally, but I don't see why it would be bad. I guess if you don't like potato at all, then it would be no good.

[Buffalobiian]

Souma's menus weren't his. They were Yukihira's. They were ripping off Yakitate Japan except for that difference, but now it goes to more Souma-original territory.

I just went to Animeminneapolis and a "bad anime panel" there basically unanimously declared this show as horrible because of the food rape.

I do mean Yukihira's when I called them his. By perfected I mean he's done it multiple times till it was good and he couldn't improve anymore on it.

[KrayZ33]

The canned fish burger is just wrong.

Isn't/wasn't that just a normal fish burger?

bread - eggs - salt+peper and fish

done

[shinta|hikari]

Canned?

Normal?

What have you been eating all your life?

Or maybe you just haven't had canned mackerel and its can juice.

[David75]

canned sardines or mackerel are good, provided you choose well.
Good bread, some fish on it, and you have a nice little sandwich. It is by no mean an everest of fine taste and an orgasm of reactions. But it is quite good, even with that strong aroma and sent.
Regarding quality, I have no doubt they use the good ones at the polar star dorm.
Now, is it really possible to get something very good out of it, probably. But you really have to find ways to tone the sent and taste down.
Use hot boiled potatoes cut in 5 to 8 milimeters slices, oignons, shallot, red wine vinegar and canned sardines and you already start getting something real nice. Add some rucola salad (arugula in the States it seems, roquette in France) and it's really hard to stop eating that.
Works well with canned mackerel too.

Ideas are not that bad in the manga/show, there is some documentation. But there are mistakes and the anime delivery is subpar.

[KrayZ33]

As far as I remember (it's not really eaten frequently here and I don't like fish very much) it tastes like tuna but more "fishy".

it's pretty fat too, so it's actually a good fish if you want to grill or fry it.

[shinta|hikari]

Grinding canned mackerel to mush and making a patty out of it (therefore drying it out and removing any texture resembling food) is not the right way to eat it.

[KrayZ33]

It's just fish (really cheap one too), you hack it, knead it with bread, form it and cook it.
Probably more bread than fish anyway, it will taste and smell like fish though.

[MFauli]

ep 07 is out
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damn, this episode made me hungry. I loooove the simple combination of white rice, some well fried meat and sauce on top of it :>

[NeoCybercoin]

I like how she is the meat master and is pretty much constantly displaying her top quality meat.

[Kraco]

Episode 8 - HS





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Damn, that was stupid to watch. Very limited time, yet everybody was just standing still, staring at Aldinis cooking. There are scenes where time can be stretched for the sake of dramatics, but this certainly worked in an ill manner. It made zero sense and that's it.

At least the beginning of the ep was better with Souma hardly giving a shit when the others were panicking.

[shinta|hikari]

It's not just the direction that was stupid.

All of a sudden, the Aldinis have a plucked duck ready for butchering. Where the hell did all the steps between that go? Plucking requires scalding the duck to remove the feathers. Somehow, in the middle of the wilderness, the Aldinis managed to dip the duck in hot water to loosen the feathers and pluck them off.

In the first place, how the hell did they catch a duck? The idiom sitting ducks got its meaning because the hunters have a gun. These guys had nothing, but somehow, they got a plucked duck ready right when Souma got 2 fish (a perfectly reasonable catch).

And all of a sudden, all the chef candidates are awed by a mezzaluna as if it's something awesome. Er, it's just a blade...

Souma is a story catered specifically for people who know nothing about cooking. A better cooking manga to adapt would be Bambi, but oh well.

[MFauli]

Catching two fish within 2 hours at will isnt that reasonably either, lol.

Also, if I were Souma I´d forget about Erina-sama, forget about Megumi and go for that female chef that´s leading their group. Damn.

[shinta|hikari]

Fishing isn't that hard. (Yes, I have experience. At not catching any while watching people catch a few in the short time I was there...)

It depends on the place, etc, but it sure beats magically procuring a plucked duck from the wilderness.

[neflight86]

Souma is a story catered specifically for people who know nothing about cooking. A better cooking manga to adapt would be Bambi, but oh well.

Seeing as it's published in WSJ, I think that is appropriate. I enjoy the theatrics of this far more than I care about how feasible the techniques or setting is. I mean, the whole tournament school thing is the stop where 'serious story' got off... Not having pre-plucked duck.

I'm with you on a Bambino anime, though.