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    I wasn't looking for or even expecting a heartless villain. I read Ataraxia.

    I was only commenting strictly about the anime content. That's why when they fleshed it out, I praised Ufotable for its execution. They knew people (like me) would notice that Caster was being too soft and inserted this story right after.
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    I don't remember having Medea's master treason shown in the VN either. But it seems it allowed the scenarist to change her background enough that she's still a villain, but lovable one.
    I'm pretty sure she didn't kill the girls, she might be a feminist too... I don't know why I feel that she might be though.

    Changing our view on Caster allows to change the Villains chart a little, now Caster isn't as bad as Kotomine... she's in the Villains bracket too, but could have been saved at any time, while Kotomine is a plain bastard with nothing to save.

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    Episode 15 - HS



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    As expected, a well animated series doesn't make seeing Ilya's fate in the UBW any easier. The flashbacks before the fateful scene were quite nice, just like with Caster. Much more detailed and longer than in the game and made Ilya suffering after the previous war all the clearer. Although since the game had a forced play order, it gives the player the happier Ilya moments of the Fate route, so the impact is bigger than in this series alone. But looking at the bigger picture, we have had the Prisma Ilya shows, so we are certainly familier with her by now. Poor Ilya. Cursed Gilgamesh.

    I think we should be getting the best scene in the next episode, so it's not all bad!

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    Meh...I was expecting something more awesome as a fight. I mean we all knew how it would end up but still...half of the episode was a extended flashback that wasn't in the VN. I'm fine with adding upon the original but to me it made the 'fight' less than it should have been. Maybe I just had a to high of an expectation for this fight. But I AM glad that they put in the part where he broke free from the Chains of Heaven, the supposedly unbreakable chain that no God or Demi God could escape from.

    Poor Rin...doing her best to keep Shirou from getting himself killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    Poor Rin...doing her best to keep Shirou from getting himself killed.
    She would be dead herself if Shirou wasn't like that. But I suppose it's frustrating nonetheless.

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    Gilgamesh killed a loli.

    Gilgamesh will die.
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    So this was the last episode that was previewed at Sakuracon a few weeks ago.

    Normally after each episode, the audience breaks out in thunderous applause immediately.
    At the end of this one, there was an air of hesitation in the room, and then applause shortly after.
    Everyone was so sad. Poor Ilya.

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    Episode 16 - HS




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    Rin has such a tough time, being so tsun-tsun-tsundere. I'm exceedingly happy the best scene was there, and it wasn't suffering overly much from cutting. I guess there's no avoiding of dolphins, but at least this was handled well. Shirou's abnormality scene felt a bit hasty and I feel like the whole background wasn't covered adequately, but I guess it's okay.

    Not overly much else happened in this episode, but I'm satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    But I AM glad that they put in the part where he broke free from the Chains of Heaven, the supposedly unbreakable chain that no God or Demi God could escape from.
    My interpretation from that scene was that Heracles was so devoid of life that all divinity had left him, allowing him to exploit the weakness of the chains (that they bind non-divine being less strongly than divine beings). That's given the way it was animated though. My impression when I read the novel may have well been the same as yours.

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    That's one way to look at it. But even Gilgamesh said that even after death Heracles broke through his limits. Since he was always given impossible tasks and completed them. If I recall that myth correctly.

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    It can be both.
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    There's a couple abrupt cuts in this week's ep (HS version)... anyone know if that's actually the episode or if it was a bad RAW or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmkze04 View Post
    There's a couple abrupt cuts in this week's ep (HS version)... anyone know if that's actually the episode or if it was a bad RAW or something?
    Can't say I'd have especially noticed anything so out of place in the 720p version. Even if there was, I'm going to eventually replace these eps with BD rips, so it's not so critical at this point.

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    You mean the sudden end of UBW? Yeah, that was odd, but probably intentional.
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    Yeah Shinta that was weird. I thought maybe it was a break like the previous episode with Rin fighting Caster where they'd rewind to show a different angle or something, but nope. And there wasn't the normal pause like their ad breaks.

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    Now that you mention it, I suppose it could have been handled a lot better. It didn't look like a result from a corrupted file, though, just harsh cutting (to use inappropriate terminology since there's nothing to cut if nothing was animated there).

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    Saber face felt off too. But this is really for nipticking. Archer's grudge is hittings the dynamics we had in the last seasons a little, but all in all, the show remains solid.

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    ok, i just watched episode 19, coming from someone that didnt saw the original anime nor played the game(only saw fate/zero) i was a little confused last episode, i even tough that the 2 pendants thing was a translators error or something i didnt understood right!

    but now its starting to come all together, loving the little time paradoxes they are throwing there (like the pair of swords that came from nowhere).

    now i have a few questions (no spoilers tough as i am enjoying the series a bit too much right now):

    is the timeline circular in this story? i mean does the emiya spirit always comes back to fight as rin's champion and gets to see his young self everytime or in the first timeline rin summoned someone else?

    i understood that there are 3 different storylines in the game, is archer always emiya's spirit or only in the ubw story?

    also in the game do they reveal that archer is emiya himself in the other storylines? or you only get to know that in the third replay?

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    You shouldn't think of the routes as timelines. They are simply routes in the game, completely separate storylines sharing the same setting and characters.

    Archer is Hero Emiya, period.

    The 3 routes are played in order, IIRC. UBW is the second one, so you find out in the 2nd route.
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    And once again the most luckless class falls to betrayal. I guess Rin couldn't keep it all inside despite likely knowing that Kirei was enjoying her outburst. But then again, she was sure of her own demise at that point, I reckon, so it matters little. Shinji getting smacked and sent flying by Lancer was very satisfying. That's pure nonsexual kind of fanservice.

    Quite a long conversation by Archer and Saber (and Shirou). Looking at ForteCross's post, it seems like it wasn't wasted, after all. It was kind of hard to judge by myself at this point after playing the game a bunch of times and everything. I have seen people complain elsewhere (like in reviews) that the Archer/Shirou case is blown out of proportion because it really is quite simple, but on the other hand for those two personally it's a huge case. For Shirou it's his whole current and future life, for Archer it's the past full of regrets and basically a cursed existence at the moment. Dunno what else you need to make something a big deal.

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