Madan no Ou to Vanadis

[Kraco]

Episode 5 - Horrible



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I quite liked this episode, even if the plot took such an uber traditional route. Ludmila just had to be an unfortunate individual who was forced to ally with scumbags. It would have been so much better if she had instead chosen that path by carefully calculating the options, and then followed her greed. But no.

Urs was a great character, though. I hope he makes a comeback at some point. I also liked how possessive Eleonora was. It means her and Tigre's marriage is all the more possible! Titta can go marry some stablehand.

[lelouch]

Episode 5 - Horrible
Urs was a great character, though. I hope he makes a comeback at some point.

You are aware that Urs is Tigre, right?


Very well done episode. Bravo.

[shinta|hikari]

You are aware that Urs is Tigre, right?

Kraco, this was like the worst insult of a lifetime lol.

Best part of this episode: Lim blushing after dressing Tigre up in the bear suit.

Mila really is a poor judge of character. A bear suit actually managed to fool her...

Elen is amazing. I really love her characterization. She has all the right tropes with all the right twists.

[Buffalobiian]

This policy of allowing war maidens to fight each other whenever they think their interests align with that of the state is so wasteful. Armies die over an internal debate.

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, if only "common sense" sided more with logic...

[Ryllharu]

I'm with Buff. All the war maidens are supposed to be serving a single nation. How is it possible that they'd be allowed to fight on behalf of other nations against each other? While it is true that that can't take their weapons away because they are chosen by them instead of given them, by edict the king should be stopping this fight and recalling the both of them to sit tight.

Granted, it makes the series less entertaining when the super powered characters don't fight each other, but their house alliegances should take second place to their nation.

Alsace is currently owned by Eleonora, and that makes it part of their country now, not rife for the taking by someone else.

And yes, the best part of the episode was Limalisha blushing over the bear suit. We don't know if she has a fondness for bears, hairy men, or Tigre (due to him sucking on her boob). It's too bad she's too loyal to Elen to fight her over Tigre. She'll have to settle for someone like baldy.

[Kraco]

I said as much before, but since they apparently live under feudalism, a king's power is limited in the first place. It's further limited by what you said: Who's going to take the weapon away from one such as they are? With such a system, the nobles seek alliences and profit from wherever they want. And fight with each other, even, if not especially, within the same nominal country. They did pay homage to the king, but who knows how much of it was theater to keep up the looks of the high society, how much genuine respect.

[David75]

For a moment, I thought they'd go Lelouch and find a way to destroy the bedrock the Castle is built on.

[NeoCybercoin]

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the War Maidens has gone rogue. I mean the weapon chooses the War Maiden not the kingdom itself. So it might as well end up in the hands of someone who doesn't give a rats ass about the kingdom. That'd be interesting to see.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm looking forward to seeing the space/time-warping maiden. She seems OP and crafty.

@Kraco: I remember your argument that the King may not have that much control over them, but that doesn't stop this behaviour from eating away resources. Elen and Ludmila are fighting for the 4th time already. Other nations must somehow be in poorer conditions than they are to not take advantage of this. (I suppose the other dudes were fighting amongst themselves as well... so they're all dumbasses)

The only other thing I thought of was that the dragon tools tended to pick people of somewhat upright moral standing so the policy somehow works.

[shinta|hikari]

Everyone is fighting among themselves. I think that was clear from the attack on Alsace. It's a dumb world, but completely believable.

I really liked how open Tigre was when Elen asked how valuable she was to him. That entire back and forth was fantastic.

[Kraco]

Other nations must somehow be in poorer conditions than they are to not take advantage of this. (I suppose the other dudes were fighting amongst themselves as well... so they're all dumbasses)

The regular army of Zhcted looks no worse than anybody else's. Add to that for example just two or three war maidens and only a lunatic would try to attack. They don't need all the war maidens ready and waiting, unless all the other countries suddenly decided to attack them in unison.

[Buffalobiian]

The regular army of Zhcted looks no worse than anybody else's.

What I'm saying is that it should look worse given all the infighting. All you need is an all-out war between two War Maidens and your country's forces are reduced by 1/7. Given that the Zhcted army is still strong, it means:

1) The War Maidens aren't as stupid/corrupt as humanly possible and any fights were actually "worth it" in terms of benefiting the country, and/or

2) Other countries are going through just as much, if not more infighting than they are so it all evens out.

I said as much before, but since they apparently live under feudalism, a king's power is limited in the first place. It's further limited by what you said: Who's going to take the weapon away from one such as they are? With such a system, the nobles seek alliences and profit from wherever they want. And fight with each other, even, if not especially, within the same nominal country. They did pay homage to the king, but who knows how much of it was theater to keep up the looks of the high society, how much genuine respect.

I don't know about that. Back in that episode where Elen reported to the king, he not only accused her of not keeping the nation's interests in mind (to the point where someone had to step in), but managed to put a look on Elen's face that said "Shit, the king does not approve". She also had no real option of giving Alsace to the king if it was formally given to Elen as her property. No matter how you look at it, the king seems to have quite a lot of pull on them.

[Kraco]

No matter how you look at it, the king seems to have quite a lot of pull on them.

Perhaps the king is good at playing the war maidens against each other. Like if one behaves too badly, the kind might be able to have two others deal with the rogue one. On the other hand the war maidens should have their own lands and estates, and those can't function if the king cuts all ties. However, none of this means the king would hold a tighter least on them than any regular nobles, that's for sure. Nothing would stop a war maiden from killing the king, aside from another war maiden. If the war maidens got too friendly with each other, and too not friendly with the king, they could throw the king away and have the county ruled by war maidens. So, it could be even essential for the king that the war maidens fight with each other, as long as the country isn't too much weakened.

[Xelbair]

Btw - Tatra mountain range is a region in Poland(highest mountain range in here)

[Buffalobiian]

We don't know if she has a fondness for bears, hairy men, or Tigre (due to him sucking on her boob).

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The fondness is off the charts.

[NeoCybercoin]

I like how they are actually using bits of the story. I mean in the manga you seem them going on a 'date' in the village doing what they are describing. As well as giving her a teddy. But these are great.

[Kraco]

The fondness is off the charts.

Truly. It takes a 100% through and through bear lover to let even Pedobear off the hook. Based on the painting on her wall. I hope it wasn't just the fansubber's doing, considering the background was so static.

[Buffalobiian]

HS - Episode 06


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And for this week's dose of boobs, swords and amazing shots.

I really don't see why the fights don't start with our war heroes duking it out against each other, because honestly that's what it comes down to. I'll just have to assume that fights going on elsewhere still matter. Not using dragon attacks against humans is pretty stupid though. You're still killing them, and if not then your men are - with some dying in the process. The only change in outcome is that your men do more work and you leave the enemies with more intact bodies.

[Kraco]

Yeah, it looked liked some strange chivalry that she didn't use her true power, despite the black knight having killed a score of soldiers from her side. I can't imagine many things more stupid than getting your and your allies' asses kicked because you don't want to use your real strength against a mere human. She certainly put the cart before the horse.

Another fantasy shot from Tigre. A few unknown variables too many in his equation to make much sense. Other than that, I wonder why he was so shocked being labeled a traitor because that's exactly what he is: He allied himself with a neighbouring country. Of course the alternative was to get his county burned to the ground, but that doesn't change anything. Now he only needs to formally switch sides. Unless he wants to depose the king and the dukes, but according to his speech, he has no such ambitions.