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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Actually, Vanadis aren't that all powerful. They are pretty vulnerable to assassination, for one.
    You say that, yet she routinely blocks those types of shots with her sword's wind barriers. She can detect the disturbances in the air directly. She did nothing to activate the barrier besides invoking it, but it hit the exact spot the crossbow bolt came it at. Without her moving at all.

    Maybe the others are vulnerable to assassination, but we haven't seen any of them yet. I don't believe for a second that Eleonora shares that weak point.

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    Didn't Tigre warn her about the assassin with the crossbow? She didn't talk to Arifar until after Tigre shouted for her to take cover. It's not like her wind barrier is on all the time.
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    Agreed, but she didn't look. She didn't move her eyes or head or anything. She spoke and blocked a shot coming from outside her vision.

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    Nobody with a body of flesh, with a need to eat and breath is safe from assassins. I don't think that's any reasonable measure to gauge if somebody is strong or not, let alone OP. However, if a human can one-shot a dragon in a basic combat with no plan and preparation, I'd say the dragon is a very weak one indeed. In fact it makes me think those things weren't dragons in the first place but drakes, wyverns, or something. Everybody just called them dragons because it sounds cool and impressive. They didn't even try to breath fire.

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    From what I understand that weapon is somewhat sentient. Or that barrier it made simply would have done that to anything entering it at that time.

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    I dont understand anything of this show. How did the 1k zched soldiers get into town when there is an army of 3000 in siege? How did the guy with the arrow in the hand escape? Why did the army with the upper hand and a town under siege retreat? Why would no1 try to duel a bowman even in a retarded anime?

    If they wouldnt put so much emphasis on "strategy" and trying to look cool with those explations, maps, troop movements etc I wouldnt mind. But this way I feel they are mocking me. "Ohh look how serious and detailed our scripting is about battles and strategy but lets just fill it with nonsensical and stupid plot holes". Also the maid character. Is that really needed? Are japanese anime viewers 10 years old mentally or so depraved?

    Will give it a try to the next episode but I doubt I can stand this kind of shows anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4 View Post
    How did the 1k zched soldiers get into town when there is an army of 3000 in siege?
    It wasn't really under siege. The douche prince kept his main army well away from the town since he couldn't afford to let the dragons too close. He merely sent some troops to pillage and kill.
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    How did the guy with the arrow in the hand escape?
    I guess he had enough time with his troops providing a distraction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4 View Post
    Why did the army with the upper hand and a town under siege retreat?
    The town wasn't really under siege since the people were even able to evacuate in peace. And why did they retreat? Because the douche prince was a coward and wanted to regroup in the open plains that were perfect for their ordinary cavalry tactics.
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    Why would no1 try to duel a bowman even in a retarded anime?
    He believed Tigre's side had massive reinforcements incoming, due to the clever plot using riderless horses. So, he planned to demotivate them by showing how their second commander (in addition to Eleonora) would fall like a fool, since he knew Tigre can only use a bow, so he believed he would easily win the duel.

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    It's funny how people try to criticize a show without giving it some thought.
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    Oh well if that is the case then its all good. For godsake go watch episode 2. They break down the wooden walls with battering rams. They break from 3 different points with lots of troops. The town is so small they dont even need to siege, thats true. But it was a away of speaking to say/explain that it was under almost full control.

    The retarded prince is watching from a hill to a few hundred meters with both dragons behind him. In the next scene you can see that he has the camp there with all the tents aswell. He is so close to the town, with his whole army + 2 dragons, that he even can see the small lords mansion clearly.

    But somehow an army that its 500 meters away from town. That has clear vision of all around (as it is shown in that episode), that has troops in the main doors cant see 1000 cavalry with 2000 spare horses coming in fking clear daylight. I could keep going all day but...

    You know what. Im not even going to try. I didnt give a single thought to it im stupid and I only criticize it for the sake of doing it with my inferior mind. Go with that.
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    I didn't say you were stupid.

    I find that it is a common trend for people to complain without paying attention to details in a show. That was all I was pointing out.

    This show has a lot of time skipping, and that can get confusing. However, most of it can be explained if you don't jump the gun and check the details out. If you aren't enthused enough to do that, then you don't even need to criticize minor details in the first place.

    Also, I'm not trying to stop you. Go ahead and keep complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    I wonder if the person/entity speaking through the bow is the goddess Tigre prayed to before he decided to try killing Elen.
    I'm not sure if it's a goddess. I just assumed it was the voice of his sentient magic bow that's on the same tier as the War Maidens'.

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    I recommend you watch this Tigre-kun to Vanadi-chu 00

    It's in chibi form and it shortly explains what Vanadis are and kind of indicates that it was the goddess who spoke to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I'm not sure if it's a goddess. I just assumed it was the voice of his sentient magic bow that's on the same tier as the War Maidens'.
    Eleonora seemed to assume her magic sword was talking to Tigre through the bow. If she's correct, the bow is just a really nice bow but nothing compared to the War Maiden weapons.

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    If its the bow mentioned in "Tigre-kun to Vanadi-chu 00" it could be vastly superior to any War Maiden weapon.

    Ep3 was really dissapointing, I didn't expect much, but all the intermissions and skipping made the battle look really boring. The initial explanation about each force size/formation was good, they should've stopped there, the rest could've been handled by showing it during the fight.

    The maid is really unnecessary - I can't stand characters like her..they are extraordinarily boring and most of the time annoying
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    HS - Episode 04

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    Glorious fanservice, and one well placed snake. That landed nicely near her, umm... central circulation. As funny as that is though, Elen's wardrobe display still wins this episode.

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    The nailed to a tree headshot wins this episode. I hope the next Elder Scrolls game will allow that.

    It was to be expected Eleonora's country wouldn't simply get involved out of charity and goodwill. Although I feel like they totally forgot Brune already sent an army against Zhcted, that's how the whole story began, so what Eleonora did was merely a response. But then again, in monarchies the king naturally tries to retain control. These countries seem to be under feudalism, so the king's desire should be all the stronger, unless it's a puppet king. Brune is a good example of why: The dukes are only nominally loyal to the throne. It seems like Zhcted's monarch is a little better off. Considering what a dirty trick Brune played on Alsace, I don't see why Tigre wouldn't swear loyalty to the king of Zhcted, provided he can keep the county. It would hardly matter. At least he would know he has allies.

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    Interesting thing is: they keep using some names out of European region(Silesia is a region in Poland, while Ludmiła(sometimes spelled as Ludomiła) is very archaic polish name) - maybe other names are based on regions of europe too - but they are so deformed that we can't get it :P

    Timeskips kinda killed this episode, but i get why they were needed.
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    Alsace is obvious for a French guy.
    Brüne is in Germany and Gstaad in Switzerland.

    Someone had fun with some regions/cities of Europe.

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    The world map is pretty similar to central-east europe if you lengthen the central land mass, push france a bit to the north, chibi united kingdom closer to denmark and the black sea to the west into the balcans.

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    Looks a lot like any old map. Landmasses particularly distorted, certain bodies of water or landmasses exaggerated. The southern waters look like a blurred together Italy and Greece.

    For example, both Americas. Note the supersized Cuba, tiny Florida, and...India off to the northwest.

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